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Indian Army T-72 tanks now have night vision

composite armour block was removed!!??:devil: what kind of excuse is that???:) during war PA remove its MBT's armor and then send it to a conflict where there is a high probability for hitting the tank with anti-tank weapon... is those a armour on PA tanks are only for show:haha:
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look at that.... the there is only an ordinary metal plate on those tank instead of ER armor.....

Exactly. And I refuse to believe @DESERT FIGHTER 's exaggerated claims of the tank surviving attack by
RRS, RPGS, IEDS, suicide bombers :cheesy::cheesy: The damage merely looks like being done by
2 or so RPG hits. I cannot see evidence of IED blast on the wreckage.

Some Abrams in Gulf War took 11 hits from RPGs and were still moving/shooting. This one here couldn't handle just
a handful (not sure exactly how many) RPG hits. Wonder what a MILAN/Konkurs or Javelin would do to it.:rofl:

No matter how much you upgrade a basic Type-59/69, it was always remain inferior to an upgraded T-72.

Have you ever heard of an upgraded M45 Patton being superior to M60 or an upgraded M60 being superior to Abrams?
 
# New 1000-horsepower engines (identical to the T-90 tank) to replace the T-72’s old 780-horsepower engines. The cost of each engine: Rs 3 crore.

# Thermal Imaging Fire Control Systems (TIFCS) that will allow the T-72 gunners to observe and fight at night. Each TIFCS will cost Rs 1.4 crore.

# Thermal Imaging (TI) sights to provide T-72 tank commanders with night vision. Each TI sight costs Rs 0.4 crore.

# An auxillary power unit (APU) to generate power for the tank’s electrical systems. Each APU will cost Rs 0.16 crore.

The Rs 5-crore cost of upgrading each T-72 knocks out the argument that the T-72 — at Rs 9 crore apiece — is value-for-money.

Retrofitting upgraded systems will escalate the cost of the T-72 to Rs 14 crore.

Army to spend billions on outdated T-72 tanks

how much is the cost of a new T 90 ?
 
Thats because the composite armour block was removed...

The same tank with its armour intact:

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Ambushed,attacked by RRs,RPGs,IEDs and suicide bombers yet the crew survived... think about that one kiddo:


Here are russian T-72s in georgia:

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Whose barells dont blow up ... and are superior to indian made stuff... upgraded





Discussed to death... ask your austerlitz n other members who were involved in the dicussion here:

PA TANKS comparison with contempory tanks | Page 51




LMAO.. ERA blocks can be removed and added at any time kiddo:

AZ with ERA old pics:

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Normal metal pate screwed on it.
 
Exactly. And I refuse to believe @DESERT FIGHTER 's exaggerated claims of the tank surviving attack by
RRS, RPGS, IEDS, suicide bombers :cheesy::cheesy: The damage merely looks like being done by
2 or so RPG hits. I cannot see evidence of IED blast on the wreckage.

Some Abrams in Gulf War took 11 hits from RPGs and were still moving/shooting. This one here couldn't handle just
a handful (not sure exactly how many) RPG hits. Wonder what a MILAN/Konkurs or Javelin would do to it.:rofl:

No matter how much you upgrade a basic Type-59/69, it was always remain inferior to an upgraded T-72.

Have you ever heard of an upgraded M45 Patton being superior to M60 or an upgraded M60 being superior to Abrams?

Spot on
 
Exactly. And I refuse to believe @DESERT FIGHTER 's exaggerated claims of the tank surviving attack by
RRS, RPGS, IEDS, suicide bombers :cheesy::cheesy: The damage merely looks like being done by
2 or so RPG hits. I cannot see evidence of IED blast on the wreckage.


Says the fanboy who yesterday was pushing his nonsense about "hollow" metal plates on AZs armour>??? which has been discussed to death here... as for your nonsense... do you see any penetration with your "2 or so RPGs" rants??? kiddo the crew survived and here is the interview :


How Al-Zarrar MBT was destroyed


Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani announced summoning of the Pakistan army to crush militancy and terrorism in Swat and Malakand with an iron hand and vowed to establish the writ of the government at all costs. Addressing the nation on radio and television Prime Minister Gilani said time had come to take serious action against the militants who had disrupted peace and tranquility in parts of NWFP. "Army is being called in for upholding the sanctity and national integrity, for elimination of militants and to ensure security of the people," Prime Minister Gilani said.

Since then Pakistan army has been using its Al-Zarrar MBT for precision day night attack capability and recently we have been able to watch the video in which an Al-Zarrar tank was shown destroyed. Many claims have been made about the destruction of these tanks and how this will affect the moral of Pakistani army in Swat and FATA. But what was unknown until now was the fact how this tank was destroyed? It was part of small force at the front to make first contact with the militants along with force of around 35 personals of Pakistani army. It was ambushed from three sides of the mountainous road and has to face at least six suicide attack attempts within span of 15 minutes along with attacks through improvised explosive devices that were buried in their way. Crew of the destroyed Al-Zarrar MBT survived without injuries and tank was recovered as neither turret of chassis of Al-Zarrar MBT was penetrated which also proved the recent upgrade was successful. Survival of the crew form the destroyed Al-Zarrar MBT is also going to be a major moral booster for the crew as they will have more confidence in the crew protection capability of the tank. According to the soldiers participating in this furious battle fought in first week of this recent attempt by the Pakistan army to clear out the areas from Taliban militants, they were attacked from three sides by different militant groups that have divided themselves into smaller groups of four to five. First attack was through improvise explosive devices which resulted in destruction of the tanks and afterwards Taliban started firing at them, they say that it was very difficult for them to access the direction of the fire and strength of the enemy. Soldiers involved in this fight say that it took us some time to estimate their positions and after that we started counter attack by sending our troops to surround them. Taliban felt the heat and started second part of the attack to scatter and destroy the advance party of Pakistan army, they launched one of their front end weapon against this small advance party; suicide bombers. Because of the magnitude of this attack, one can easily describe it as the largest suicide attack in Pakistan if not the largest in the world, mounted against a small force in shuch a limited time. This attack involved at least six different vehicles and three motor bikes filled with explosives and driven by suicide bombers within short span of time of only fifteen minutes. Pakistani soldiers first gave them warnings to stop as they thought these were civilian vehicles, but later on they recognized the threat in time and started firing at them, most of these vehicles were destroyed but due to high speed these did at front line vehicles of this small military force. According to the commanding officer of this advance force, they were very fortunate that none of their troop involved in this operation was killed and all thirty five of them were able to survive this attack.

This report is based on the program of AAJ TV which included the interviews of the Pakistani army personals involved



Some Abrams in Gulf War took 11 hits from RPGs and were still moving/shooting. This one here couldn't handle just
a handful (not sure exactly how many) RPG hits. Wonder what a MILAN/Konkurs or Javelin would do to it.:rofl:

No matter how much you upgrade a basic Type-59/69, it was always remain inferior to an upgraded T-72.

The same t-72s whose barells blow up like its your diwali celebrations? all of them being blind .. probably a few upgraded with new sights n so on? Even the RPGs are blowing em up like shit.. :lol:

Comparing AZ to Abrams is stupid.. but compare tin can t-72s with new AZs is a joke...

Be it Iraq,Syria,Georgia n so on.. we know how cool T-72s are.. so spare us the nonsense.. apart from upgrades to its FCS n imagery system... it has new engine,new armour,new tank gun and so on..



Normal metal pate screwed on it.

Hahaha.. thanks.. must be made of kyrponite... than... :lol:

composite armour block was removed!!??:devil: what kind of excuse is that???:) during war PA remove its MBT's armor and then send it to a conflict where there is a high probability for hitting the tank with anti-tank weapon... is those a armour on PA tanks are only for show:haha:
oxZRJ.jpg

look at that.... the there is only an ordinary metal plate on those tank instead of ER armor.....


You must be really stupid... the armour blocks were removed later sunny... i posted the same tank with its armour blocks intact didnt i kiddo??

Anyways here .. knock yourself out :

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Do you see the "hollow" metal plate penetrated and removed????

And no kiddo.. these are used by the Frontier Corps ... against talibitches.. and not against india.. the ones facing you will be Upgraded AKs,New AK-Is,T-80UDs,T-85IIAPs and AZs.
 
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Says the fanboy who yesterday was pushing his nonsense about "hollow" metal plates on AZs armour>??? which has been discussed to death here... as for your nonsense... do you see any penetration with your "2 or so RPGs" rants??? kiddo the crew survived and here is the interview :


How Al-Zarrar MBT was destroyed


Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani announced summoning of the Pakistan army to crush militancy and terrorism in Swat and Malakand with an iron hand and vowed to establish the writ of the government at all costs. Addressing the nation on radio and television Prime Minister Gilani said time had come to take serious action against the militants who had disrupted peace and tranquility in parts of NWFP. "Army is being called in for upholding the sanctity and national integrity, for elimination of militants and to ensure security of the people," Prime Minister Gilani said.

Since then Pakistan army has been using its Al-Zarrar MBT for precision day night attack capability and recently we have been able to watch the video in which an Al-Zarrar tank was shown destroyed. Many claims have been made about the destruction of these tanks and how this will affect the moral of Pakistani army in Swat and FATA. But what was unknown until now was the fact how this tank was destroyed? It was part of small force at the front to make first contact with the militants along with force of around 35 personals of Pakistani army. It was ambushed from three sides of the mountainous road and has to face at least six suicide attack attempts within span of 15 minutes along with attacks through improvised explosive devices that were buried in their way. Crew of the destroyed Al-Zarrar MBT survived without injuries and tank was recovered as neither turret of chassis of Al-Zarrar MBT was penetrated which also proved the recent upgrade was successful. Survival of the crew form the destroyed Al-Zarrar MBT is also going to be a major moral booster for the crew as they will have more confidence in the crew protection capability of the tank. According to the soldiers participating in this furious battle fought in first week of this recent attempt by the Pakistan army to clear out the areas from Taliban militants, they were attacked from three sides by different militant groups that have divided themselves into smaller groups of four to five. First attack was through improvise explosive devices which resulted in destruction of the tanks and afterwards Taliban started firing at them, they say that it was very difficult for them to access the direction of the fire and strength of the enemy. Soldiers involved in this fight say that it took us some time to estimate their positions and after that we started counter attack by sending our troops to surround them. Taliban felt the heat and started second part of the attack to scatter and destroy the advance party of Pakistan army, they launched one of their front end weapon against this small advance party; suicide bombers. Because of the magnitude of this attack, one can easily describe it as the largest suicide attack in Pakistan if not the largest in the world, mounted against a small force in shuch a limited time. This attack involved at least six different vehicles and three motor bikes filled with explosives and driven by suicide bombers within short span of time of only fifteen minutes. Pakistani soldiers first gave them warnings to stop as they thought these were civilian vehicles, but later on they recognized the threat in time and started firing at them, most of these vehicles were destroyed but due to high speed these did at front line vehicles of this small military force. According to the commanding officer of this advance force, they were very fortunate that none of their troop involved in this operation was killed and all thirty five of them were able to survive this attack.

This report is based on the program of AAJ TV which included the interviews of the Pakistani army personals involved





The same t-72s whose barells blow up like its your diwali celebrations? all of them being blind .. probably a few upgraded with new sights n so on? Even the RPGs are blowing em up like shit.. :lol:

Comparing AZ to Abrams is stupid.. but compare tin can t-72s with new AZs is a joke...

Be it Iraq,Syria,Georgia n so on.. we know how cool T-72s are.. so spare us the nonsense.. apart from upgrades to its FCS n imagery system... it has new engine,new armour,new tank gun and so on..





Hahaha.. thanks.. must be made of kyrponite... than... :lol:




You must be really stupid... the armour blocks were removed later sunny... i posted the same tank with its armour blocks intact didnt i kiddo??

Anyways here .. knock yourself out :

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Do you see the "hollow" metal plate penetrated and removed????

And no kiddo.. these are used by the Frontier Corps ... against talibitches.. and not against india.. the ones facing you will be Upgraded AKs,New AK-Is,T-80UDs,T-85IIAPs and AZs.

t-55, T -80 derivates vs Leopard 2/merkava hybrid (Arjun),T 72 and T 90 Oooh I'm scared, metal plate!
 
Says the fanboy who yesterday was pushing his nonsense about "hollow" metal plates on AZs armour>??? which has been discussed to death here... as for your nonsense... do you see any penetration with your "2 or so RPGs" rants??? kiddo the crew survived and here is the interview :


How Al-Zarrar MBT was destroyed


Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani announced summoning of the Pakistan army to crush militancy and terrorism in Swat and Malakand with an iron hand and vowed to establish the writ of the government at all costs. Addressing the nation on radio and television Prime Minister Gilani said time had come to take serious action against the militants who had disrupted peace and tranquility in parts of NWFP. "Army is being called in for upholding the sanctity and national integrity, for elimination of militants and to ensure security of the people," Prime Minister Gilani said.

Since then Pakistan army has been using its Al-Zarrar MBT for precision day night attack capability and recently we have been able to watch the video in which an Al-Zarrar tank was shown destroyed. Many claims have been made about the destruction of these tanks and how this will affect the moral of Pakistani army in Swat and FATA. But what was unknown until now was the fact how this tank was destroyed? It was part of small force at the front to make first contact with the militants along with force of around 35 personals of Pakistani army. It was ambushed from three sides of the mountainous road and has to face at least six suicide attack attempts within span of 15 minutes along with attacks through improvised explosive devices that were buried in their way. Crew of the destroyed Al-Zarrar MBT survived without injuries and tank was recovered as neither turret of chassis of Al-Zarrar MBT was penetrated which also proved the recent upgrade was successful. Survival of the crew form the destroyed Al-Zarrar MBT is also going to be a major moral booster for the crew as they will have more confidence in the crew protection capability of the tank. According to the soldiers participating in this furious battle fought in first week of this recent attempt by the Pakistan army to clear out the areas from Taliban militants, they were attacked from three sides by different militant groups that have divided themselves into smaller groups of four to five. First attack was through improvise explosive devices which resulted in destruction of the tanks and afterwards Taliban started firing at them, they say that it was very difficult for them to access the direction of the fire and strength of the enemy. Soldiers involved in this fight say that it took us some time to estimate their positions and after that we started counter attack by sending our troops to surround them. Taliban felt the heat and started second part of the attack to scatter and destroy the advance party of Pakistan army, they launched one of their front end weapon against this small advance party; suicide bombers. Because of the magnitude of this attack, one can easily describe it as the largest suicide attack in Pakistan if not the largest in the world, mounted against a small force in shuch a limited time. This attack involved at least six different vehicles and three motor bikes filled with explosives and driven by suicide bombers within short span of time of only fifteen minutes. Pakistani soldiers first gave them warnings to stop as they thought these were civilian vehicles, but later on they recognized the threat in time and started firing at them, most of these vehicles were destroyed but due to high speed these did at front line vehicles of this small military force. According to the commanding officer of this advance force, they were very fortunate that none of their troop involved in this operation was killed and all thirty five of them were able to survive this attack.

This report is based on the program of AAJ TV which included the interviews of the Pakistani army personals involved





The same t-72s whose barells blow up like its your diwali celebrations? all of them being blind .. probably a few upgraded with new sights n so on? Even the RPGs are blowing em up like shit.. :lol:

Comparing AZ to Abrams is stupid.. but compare tin can t-72s with new AZs is a joke...

Be it Iraq,Syria,Georgia n so on.. we know how cool T-72s are.. so spare us the nonsense.. apart from upgrades to its FCS n imagery system... it has new engine,new armour,new tank gun and so on..





Hahaha.. thanks.. must be made of kyrponite... than... :lol:




You must be really stupid... the armour blocks were removed later sunny... i posted the same tank with its armour blocks intact didnt i kiddo??

Anyways here .. knock yourself out :

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Do you see the "hollow" metal plate penetrated and removed????

And no kiddo.. these are used by the Frontier Corps ... against talibitches.. and not against india.. the ones facing you will be Upgraded AKs,New AK-Is,T-80UDs,T-85IIAPs and AZs.

Shoving a propaganda article (you can be sure this is pure propaganda just by looking at praises showered
on the pathetic stop-gap solution that is Al-Zarrar) on my face doesn't change anything. BTW you didn't
seem to get my last lines which explain the crux of the topic :

"No matter how much you upgrade a basic Type-59/69, it was always remain inferior to an upgraded T-72.

Have you ever heard of an upgraded M45 Patton being superior to M60 or an upgraded M60 being superior to Abrams?
 
You must be really stupid... the armour blocks were removed later sunny... i posted the same tank with its armour blocks intact didnt i kiddo??

Anyways here .. knock yourself out :

View attachment 27941 View attachment 27942

Do you see the "hollow" metal plate penetrated and removed????

And no kiddo.. these are used by the Frontier Corps ... against talibitches.. and not against india.. the ones facing you will be Upgraded AKs,New AK-Is,T-80UDs,T-85IIAPs and AZs.


RPG are very effective against armored vehicles such as armored personal carrier (APCs). However, heavily armored vehicles such as MBT are generally too well armored to be penetrated by an RPG, unless weaker sections of the armor are exploited... taliban and other terror groups are using rpg as their main weapon against all kind of vehicles.... according to u the PA remove armour plates of its MBT and send it to battle!! i will consider it as joke of the month:(... i see hollow metal plates of that tank penetrated by RPG, i don't see any thing removed from that tank....
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i don't find any armor plate missing..as @Gessler says it looks like just a cheep imitation of Abrams design....

in case of the tank deployed against against india, be it your Upgraded AKs,New AK-Is,T-80UDs,T-85IIAPs or AZs, they are are not going to face these soviet era RPGs of these talibans.. your tank will be blown up by different kinds of 3rd gen ATGM, for those ATGMs your tanks will be sitting ducks....
 
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RPG are very effective against armored vehicles such as armored personal carrier (APCs). However, heavily armored vehicles such as MBT are generally too well armored to be penetrated by an RPG, unless weaker sections of the armor are exploited... taliban and other terror groups are using rpg as their main weapon against all kind of vehicles.... according to u the PA remove armour plates of its MBT and send it to battle!! i will consider it as joke of the month:(... i see hollow metal plates of that tank penetrated by RPG, i don't see any thing removed from that tank....
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i don't find any armor plate missing..as @Gessler says it looks like just a cheep imitation of Abrams design....

You are a special kind of stupid.. who cant even understand basic stuff... this pics shows AZ with its Composite armour removed.. the one i posted shows the same destroyed tank with its armour all intact... do you understand? or are you too dumb for that?

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in case of the tank deployed against against india, be it your Upgraded AKs,New AK-Is,T-80UDs,T-85IIAPs or AZs, they are are not going to face these soviet era RPGs of these talibans.. your tank will be blown up by different kinds of 3rd gen ATGM, for those ATGMs your tanks will be sitting ducks....


Calm down kiddo.. talibitches are using RPGs,RRs,IEDs n suicide bombers ... n guess what none penetrated the armour of this tank.. crew survived and the tank was also saved/repaired and put back into service with the Frontier Corps...


As for ATGMs.. dont worry we got TOWs,Milan,Baktar Shikans etc all waiting for you aswell...

Also your much javelin deal is as dead as the BAE arty guns deal...


Shoving a propaganda article (you can be sure this is pure propaganda just by looking at praises showered
on the pathetic stop-gap solution that is Al-Zarrar) on my face doesn't change anything. BTW you didn't
seem to get my last lines which explain the crux of the topic :

"No matter how much you upgrade a basic Type-59/69, it was always remain inferior to an upgraded T-72.

Have you ever heard of an upgraded M45 Patton being superior to M60 or an upgraded M60 being superior to Abrams?

Oh so you ran out your "bakwas" sarak chaap analysis and now this.. grow up kiddo.. we aint on one of your shitty forums... you whined about blown up "abrams" like hollow armour slabs .. got busted with proof.. yet you shamelessly rant... come with proof or keep shut..


t-55, T -80 derivates vs Leopard 2/merkava hybrid (Arjun),T 72 and T 90 Oooh I'm scared, metal plate!

Dont insult Merkava n leopard by comparing your disaster arjun... just because its based on the old leopard doesnt make it awesome... with its stupid design,obsolete gun n armour weaknesses not to forget the obsolete rounds etc.. its a sitting duck.. no wonder indian army went for T-90s instead of arjuns... decades in development ... millions spent of program n 124 tanks in service just to save face.. :lol:

Lmao.. and sunny.. AZs are third tier tanks... First will be AK-Is and AKs.. second T-84/UDs .. third T-85s and than AZs...

Vs
T-90s n t-72s... damn kiddo.. we so scared of tht...

P.S: Did they stop blowing themselves up yet? they night capable... engine overheating problems n so on solved yet?
 
Mate why do you bother? They got their ***'es handed to them on a plate every time they talked tough. The same will happen again. The Indian Army ain't keyboard warriors, they prefer kicking *** on the battle field. :coffee:

Enjoy!

Cheers.

PS. This thread is about T-72's. Don't respond to flame baits even if someone has the temerity to flaunt their WWII vintage khataras.

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Oh wow.. i can post much more pics of captured centurians,AMXs etc (dozens are decorating the city where i live... even your bmp) ... now dont go all sissy with the jet vs tanks nonsense of yours.. not much to show for tank vs tank..
 
Thats because the composite armour block was removed...

The same tank with its armour intact:

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Ambushed,attacked by RRs,RPGs,IEDs and suicide bombers yet the crew survived... think about that one kiddo:


Here are russian T-72s in georgia:

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Whose barells dont blow up ... and are superior to indian made stuff... upgraded





Discussed to death... ask your austerlitz n other members who were involved in the dicussion here:

PA TANKS comparison with contempory tanks | Page 51




LMAO.. ERA blocks can be removed and added at any time kiddo:

AZ with ERA old pics:

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Thanks for the support no matter How much we disagree with each other when it comes to India we are on same page
 
Its Interesting that pakistan always gets tanks that are rejected by china.

From Wiki :
Type 8X's
What is known is that China's North Industries Group Corporation (Norinco), most likely in association with 201 Institute (now China North Vehicle Research Institute), unveiled their own version, the Type 85 MBT in 1988. The PLA did not initially accept the Type 85 MBT, and it was further developed for export to Pakistan (Type 85-IIAP and Type 85-III.)

Al-Khalids:
The Type 85 MBT was further developed into the Type 90, but besides a few test vehicles for evaluation, this tank was not adopted by the People's Liberation Army, instead, the tank became the export model for Pakistan which developed the MBT-2000 (Al-Khalid) tank based on the Type 90
The Type 80 and Type 85 tanks led to the Type 90. The Type 90 was rejected for Chinese service in favour of other designs, but it influenced further development which would lead to China's third-generation Type 98 and Type 99 tanks.

Maybe CHina gives them so much funds, that pakisatn has to say yes to sub standard tanks that even Chinese would not want to operate. Many Pakistanis cry about being puppet controlled by West. It seems they are more puppet controlled by China, allowing sub standard defence equipment for use.
 
I do have a noob question, dose these T85/T72 (I know both are different tanks, one better than other, even then I am clubbing together as they have same roles in both armies) in their standard state, susceptible to modern day RPG ?? I am not even bothered to ask about top-attack ATGMs. I am asking abt updated RPGs.

They do look like they have a fairly weak armor compared to what we have now, and what modern RPGs are designed to defeat. Will adding up Add-on armor will be of any help ?? I am taking an analogy of a poorly constructed building being supported by external wood/metal bracing.
 
I do have a noob question, dose these T85/T72 (I know both are different tanks, one better than other, even then I am clubbing together as they have same roles in both armies) in their standard state, susceptible to modern day RPG ?? I am not even bothered to ask about top-attack ATGMs. I am asking abt updated RPGs.

They do look like they have a fairly weak armor compared to what we have now, and what modern RPGs are designed to defeat. Will adding up Add-on armor will be of any help ?? I am taking an analogy of a poorly constructed building being supported by external wood/metal bracing.

WRT the issues of RPGs etc. the bolted on 'slat armor' works.
The T-72s are already fitted with ERA blocks which have been tested to defeat TOW, Milan and Bakhtar Shikan warheads. There is a newer RA design that is being proto-ed even as we speak.
 
^^ Don't be fooled by the turret of Al-Zarrar. That's not solid armor as it looks, it's completely hollow.
Probably a cheap attempt to imitate Abrams design
WOW. Talk about getting a monkey model. :D
I wonder how the MBT2000 is then. NO wonder the PLA rejected these
 
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