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Indian Army pitches again for operational control over ITBP

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The Chinese incursion across the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in Ladakh has stoked an old rift between the Defence Ministry and the Ministry of Home Affairs over the Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP) guarding the 650-km LAC with China along Jammu and Kashmir.

South Block mandarins are reiterating their old demand for the 50,000 strong ITBP to be placed under the operational control of the 11.3-lakh strong Indian Army, on the lines of the Assam Rifles that guards the India-Myanmar border.

In Ladakh, China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) troopers, with two sniffer dogs, had sneaked into the Indian side of the LAC on April 15, unnoticed by ITBP soldiers. They also pitched four tents at Debsang Bulge in the area. The ITBP got to know only 24 hours later, primarily because they are not permanently posted at those locations, and are on patrol only as frequently as possible. It also does not go up to the entire Indian side of the LAC, as much as the Chinese do till theirs, because of the norms set by the China Study Group, a high-level committee with secretaries of Defence, Home and External Affairs apart from the Indian Army Vice Chief as members.

“The projection, for the ITBP to be under Army’s operational control, has been made several times in the past, but hasn’t met with a positive response from the Home Ministry,” says a Brigadier of the Indian Army. The LAC is “undemarcated” and there are high possibilities of incursions by Chinese troopers, according to Defence Ministry officials. The last three years, till 2012, had witnessed over 600 incidents of PLA transgressions. Besides, the ITBP doesn’t have the expertise to handle confrontations of the kind being witnessed. “In such circumstances, the Army needs to join forces with the ITBP, as the Ladakh Scouts have done this time,” they noted. The ITBP officers refused to comment.

Since its raising in October 1962 in the aftermath of the bitter Sino-India war that left New Delhi humiliated, the 53 battalions of ITBP have been entrusted with the responsibility of manning around 3,500 km of the 4,057-km of LAC with China. From Karakoram in the Ladakh region of Jammu and Kashmir to Jachep La in Arunachal Pradesh, ITBP mans outposts on the LAC along the Himalayas bordering Tibet and Himachal Pradesh, Uttarakhand and Sikkim at altitudes ranging from 9,000 feet to 18,600 feet stretching.

The Indian Army guards only just over 500 km of the LAC, particularly in the North East region. While the Leh-based 14 Corps defends Ladakh against Chinese misadventures, the eastern sector is handled by the Tezpur-based 4 Corps and Dimapur-based 3 Corps. A Lieutenant General of the Army heads the Assam Rifles and its battalions are commanded by Army colonels.

Indian Army pitches again for operational control over ITBP - The New Indian Express
 
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Why is the Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP) guarding the border? These guys are just a bunch of paramilitary troops with bad equipment.
 
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Why is the Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP) guarding the border? These guys are just a bunch of paramilitary troops with bad equipment.

It should be the job of CAPFs to guard borders not the IA, they are overstretched as it is and certainly aren't border guards. ITBP is actually a well equipped and very well trained CAPF on the whole.


I hope that one day the IA is allowed to give such roles such as CT (in say NE and JK) and border protection to federal and state police units.
 
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Why is the Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP) guarding the border? These guys are just a bunch of paramilitary troops with bad equipment.

It should be the job of CAPFs to guard borders not the IA, they are overstretched as it is and certainly aren't border guards. ITBP is actually a well equipped and very well trained CAPF on the whole.


I hope that one day the IA is allowed to give such roles such as CT (in say NE and JK) and border protection to federal and state police units.

It's some sort of restriction world wide that Army is not supposed to be on border in normal conditions. Army is considered a offensive force and not border guards.
 
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It's some sort of restriction world wide that Army is not supposed to be on border in normal conditions. Army is considered a offensive force and not border guards.

the question is not about posting a offensive force on border or something !

the question is whether we should bring ITBP under army command. That is the norm with several countries and china in particular ! As per current scenario, ITBP because of lack of equipements or support or whatever, realizes the chinese incursion much later. But in media it is the IA whose self-respect is made fun of.. thats why IA wants the control of it ! :P
 
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Why is the Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP) guarding the border? These guys are just a bunch of paramilitary troops with bad equipment.

they are one of the well equipped and bloody trained paramilitary force established particularly for this dude[protecting autonomous indo china border].But lacks in latest navigantion and central command techs.
 
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the question is not about posting a offensive force on border or something !

the question is whether we should bring ITBP under army command. That is the norm with several countries and china in particular ! As per current scenario, ITBP because of lack of equipements or support or whatever, realizes the chinese incursion much later. But in media it is the IA whose self-respect is made fun of.. thats why IA wants the control of it ! :P

Army can't do anything if the corrupt central regime won't give them the freedom to use their force.

In our system, they defense forces are only there to pander to neta's security and nothing to the country..
 
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the question is not about posting a offensive force on border or something !

the question is whether we should bring ITBP under army command. That is the norm with several countries and china in particular ! As per current scenario, ITBP because of lack of equipements or support or whatever, realizes the chinese incursion much later. But in media it is the IA whose self-respect is made fun of.. thats why IA wants the control of it ! :P

I was replying post 1 & 2. That's why I quote them
 
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It's some sort of restriction world wide that Army is not supposed to be on border in normal conditions. Army is considered a offensive force and not border guards.

who guards the pak border then??:undecided:
 
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who guards the pak border then??:undecided:

Its BSF for Gujarat,Rajasthan and Punjab....Army is present along with BSF on LOC though as LOC is not really an international border.
 
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who guards the pak border then??:undecided:

Its BSF for Gujarat,Rajasthan and Punjab....Army is present along with BSF on LOC though as LOC is not really an international border.

I think @Ayush means on Pakistani side. It's Pakistani ranges. Not PA

Its BSF for Gujarat,Rajasthan and Punjab....Army is present along with BSF on LOC though as LOC is not really an international border.

Army is not present on Gujarat and Rajasthan or Punjab border. It's strictly BSF. That's the sol purpose of BSF.
In J&K the army presence is due to militancy
 
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they are one of the well equipped and bloody trained paramilitary force established particularly for this dude[protecting autonomous indo china border].But lacks in latest navigantion and central command techs.

Sorry Bro, don't agree to bold part.... Will post some pics if get, I got hands on some but finding it difficult now!
 
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Sorry Bro, don't agree to bold part.... Will post some pics if get, I got hands on some but finding it difficult now!

mate.....that's what i mentioned in my last point. i said about weapons only dude. But not about latest navigation tech, centarlised command control tech etc., Even our army also lacks in this.
 
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