Indian Aggression

[lem34]

perhaps they can also remind themselves about the spanking they received in 1967 and 1987

Anything else would be off topic. We are talking about India here and Indian aggression. An incredible shining and good example of this was when Nehru got cocky and India got aggressive with their forward first. It quickly became reverse at speed when Chinese turned up. I think. Maybe Chinese members could explain what exactly happened

 

[Supply&Demand]

Wait what, there was conflicts with China in 67 and 87? Did not know that....

We won Sikkim from PRC:

Chola incident

And in Arunachal Pradesh- where PRC was $hit scared of military conflict with India

1987 Sino-Indian skirmish

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

We won Sikkim from PRC:

Chola incident

And in Arunachal Pradesh- where PRC was $hit scared of military conflict with India

1987 Sino-Indian skirmish

These two "incidents" are what the Indian members use to make themselves feel better, like the urban legend about 39% of NASA employees being Indian.

 

[Supply&Demand]

Anything else would be off topic. We are talking about India here and Indian aggression. An incredible shining and good example of this was when Nehru got cocky and India got aggressive with their forward first. It quickly became reverse at speed when Chinese turned up. I think. Maybe Chinese members could explain what exactly happened

ya..China won when our troops where outnumbered 10 to 1...

And we btw were not aggressive enough..many experts believe we should have used our Airforce..that would have $hit scared Chinese

 

[lem34]

What, by only having two days worth of ammunition?



We offered to recognize Arunachal Pradesh in exchange for recognition of Aksai Chin. But Nehru refused, he wanted BOTH the territories.

Just because Nehru was weak, you assume that he was not aggressive. In fact, he was extremely aggressive.

But then you had to bend them over and give them an incredible Royal spanking of 1962. That was a vintage year for champagne I think

 

[Supply&Demand]

These two "incidents" are what the Indian members use to make themselves feel better, like the urban legend about 39% of NASA employees being Indian.

and u like to quote something that happened 50 yrs ago to make urself feel better...

Why dont u attack us now and see what happens...?? And since u already know we have only 2 days worth ammunition, why dont u take Arunachal Pradesh a.k.a South Tibet from us?

 

[neutral_person]

We won Sikkim from PRC:

Chola incident

And in Arunachal Pradesh- where PRC was $hit scared of military conflict with India

1987 Sino-Indian skirmish

Wow so the scoreline reads India 2 - 1 China. And even 1962, they ran away with their tails between their legs when we called or re-enforcements and backups. They used 80,000 troops to beat our poorly stationed 10,000 troops in 1962 and they are chest beating about that

 

[faizahmad]

By that same logic China and Pakistan have every right to invade India.
Like I said, it doesn't matter what your reasons are, you invaded a country that was not fighting you.

As for Kashmir, The nazims of Hyderabad and a few other places acceded to Pakistan. So why didn't you allow them to go to Pakistan?

The deal with partition was that Muslim majority would to to Pakistan and Hindu majority would go to India. You betrayed that deal and chose an aggressive stance and thus became the root cause of all the problems in South Asia.
If India had allowed partition to happen according to the deal then maybe today we could have had a much better relationship and even visa free travel to each other's country.

Instead we got war and hate thanks to your actions.

Totally A B:s have to ever been tio hydrabad in ur life time ... still the nizams of Hydrabad are enjoying a luxurious life

the above picture is one of the palace which nizam shah of hydrabad lives and even the hydrabadis are partiotic towards India .
It was not the hindus who betrayed and ignored the deal it was the muslims them self choose to stay back in india instead of moving to pakistan .

 

[Shinigami]

These two "incidents" are what the Indian members use to make themselves feel better, like the urban legend about 39% of NASA employees being Indian.

what? u dont belive it? let me remind you

At the end of 1986, India granted statehood to Arunachal Pradesh, which is an area claimed by China but administered by India. The Chinese government proceeded to protest. But the military movements in Tawang, taken in conjunction with this political action were seen as a provocation by the Chinese. In early 1987 Beijing's tone became similar to that of 1962, and with the Indian Army refusing to stand down, Western diplomats predicted war.

The Indian response to the Chinese buildup was Operation Falcon and involved movements across the Sino-Indian border. Mi-26 heavy lift helicopters were used to deploy Infantry fighting vehicles and tanks into North Sikkim in the east and Demchok in the west. These deployments were viewed as particularly threatening by the PLA because they seemed to indicate that India had moved from a strategy of defence in its own territory to that of a larger offensive involving all of Arunachal Pradesh.

The result was a thaw. Indian Foreign Minister N.D. Tiwari arrived in Beijing in May 1987 en route to Pyongyang, North Korea. He carried with him messages from Indian leaders that there was no intention on New Delhi's part to aggravate the situation. The first formal flag meeting to discuss “ the freezing of the situation” since 1962, was held on the fifth of August 1987 at Bum La in the aftermath of the Wangdung affair. Both sides decided to take up talks with renewed urgency and the following year, Rajiv Gandhi visited Beijing, returning Zhou Enlai's '60s visit.

Aftermath

Both India and China realised the danger of inadvertent conflict and after initial posturing the decision was made to de-escalate their deployments. The Sumdorong Chu fallout was that India and China decided to restart their dialogue on a new and more urgent basis. After Rajiv Gandhi's September 1988 visit, there was a hiatus of sorts because of political turmoil in India. But finally in 1993, the two countries signed an agreement to ensure peace along the LAC.

The agreement brought in an interesting concept of "mutual and equal" security where thinning of forces was envisaged, based on geographical and logistical considerations. However, its most important element is to have the two sides work out a mutually acceptable Line of Actual Control. As of now the two sides have their own versions of the Line and there are points, especially in the Sikkim-Bhutan-India trijunction, the Sumdorong Chu area and so on where the claims are disputed.

Moral of the story: Never deal with China from a position of weakness

 

[Supply&Demand]

But then you had to bend them over and give them an incredible Royal spanking of 1962. That was a vintage year for champagne I think

And u thought, u could take Kashmir then and attacked us in 1965..

oh what happened then..we returned that royal spanking to u....that definitely was a vintage year for champagne for us...

 

[manofwar]

You mean like point 3535 which we hold. You see Indians lie about losing and winning look what one of your generals said

http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...ost-kargil-lieutenant-general-kishan-pal.html

You should have read the article once yourself..........
The Gen says our consolidation , both military and political, should have been better, which DOES NOT mean that we lost the war.........
And you should know that this gen is a part of hard-liners in the Army who believe that instead of stopping on the Line of actual control, we should have continued and captured rest of Kashmir, when we had the momentum.........
That's why he considers the war lost........
A little more research wouldn't have harmed anyone Aryan..........Now you just sound silly......

 

[Ignited Mind]

Wow so the scoreline reads India 2 - 1 China. And even 1962, they ran away with their tails between their legs when we called or re-enforcements and backups. They used 80,000 troops to beat our poorly stationed 10,000 troops in 1962 and they are chest beating about that

Chinese chest thumping is also of the same quality as other China-ka-maal.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Anything else would be off topic. We are talking about India here and Indian aggression. An incredible shining and good example of this was when Nehru got cocky and India got aggressive with their forward first. It quickly became reverse at speed when Chinese turned up. I think. Maybe Chinese members could explain what exactly happened

What actually happened, was that we were at possibly the weakest point in our history.

From 1959-1961 we had the worst famine in all of Chinese history (Great leap forward), and we were literally collapsing with starvation.

Added to that, we had BOTH the superpowers of the world (USA + USSR) as our sworn enemies, having recently fought against the USA + 16 of her allies in the Korean war. Combined with the Sino-Soviet split, we were surrounded on all sides by both the superpowers and their allies.

It was a fantastic opportunity for India, seeing China on the verge of collapse from starvation and famine, and surrounded on all sides by enemy superpowers.

First, they started talking about "Hindi Chini bhai bhai" (which was not returned)... then they backstabbed us by hosting our largest separatist group in 1959, followed by the Forward policy in 1962. They wanted Aksai Chin, but they didn't get it.

 

[manofwar]

Anything else would be off topic. We are talking about India here and Indian aggression. An incredible shining and good example of this was when Nehru got cocky and India got aggressive with their forward first. It quickly became reverse at speed when Chinese turned up. I think. Maybe Chinese members could explain what exactly happened

Ohhhh....so we are hear just to discuss when the so-called "Indian aggresion" failed, and not when it succeded.........
I should have guessed!!!

 

[Shinigami]

Wow so the scoreline reads India 2 - 1 China. And even 1962, they ran away with their tails between their legs when we called or re-enforcements and backups. They used 80,000 troops to beat our poorly stationed 10,000 troops in 1962 and they are chest beating about that

actually the reason we lost was not because we were outnumbered 10:1. Its because we had no bullets.

Except for one guy

He killed 300 chinese in 3 days. That’s a record in modern history
Jaswant Singh Rawat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

so even if indian soldiers were outnumbered 300:1, we could have won 62 war. IF we had bullets