Indian Activist speaks about rampant caste bias among the Indian diaspora in the United States.

[suyog chavan]

Yep, I have friends in bands who play instruments and sing etc... they are all shudra technically who work with their hands.

No one is shudra mate,

they are all shudra technically who work with their hands.

Sounds more like humans.

 

[jamahir]

*Asian*.....Hahhaa...You're a trip buddy!

@Hamartia Antidote is just unaware.

HA, for some info on India's internal dynamics please refer my post# 15.

 

[Sharma Ji]

No one is shudra mate,

that's what I once heard from a man who knows this stuff... if your hands are your breadmakers, you're a shudra.

if they stop playing guitar and reading the ancient texts and teaching others, they become a brahman

if they start a music store.. vaishya

and if they change their "axes" for a real axe and go to war.. ban jaoge kshatriya lol

also, I have very little interest in this

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Not surprised. I have had Scheduled Caste/Tribe Andhra based IT personnel complaining about Brahmin domination over the industry.
The Kammas don't seem to get along with the Reddiars.

It's the same in UK. The "wrong kind of Indian" has no chance vs the "right kind" even when both in identical jobs. The lower castes are constantly showed their place and the higher castes seethe because civilised employment law in most countries stops them taking the sort of action they might in Hindustan. In fact, they make it a point to remind their subjects that they should feel "grateful" that action is not taken against them as it "should be".

Indeed, the casteism extends to include Indian origin Christians and Muslims, who smile wryly over the blatant discriminatory efforts against them for the now firmly engrained "crime" their ancestors "committed" by converting out of Dalitism in their native Hindustan.

 

[Sharma Ji]

It's the same in UK. The "wrong kind of Indian" has no chance vs the "right kind" even when both in identical jobs. The lower castes are constantly showed their place and the higher castes seethe because civilised employment law in most countries stops them taking the sort of action they might in Hindustan. In fact, they make it a point to remind their subjects that they should feel "grateful" that action is not taken against them as it "should be".

Indeed, the casteism extends to include Indian origin Christians and Muslims, who smile wryly over the blatant discriminatory efforts against them for the now firmly engrained "crime" their ancestors "committed" by converting out of Dalitism in their native Hindustan.

 

[suyog chavan]

Yes, these things are clearly a Chrislamocommie conspiracy.

There is no Hindu, Muslim and Christian for the communists,
have you ever heard of carl Marx and his books das kapital and the communist manifesto, if you haven't no point, in baffling with you.

 

[Sharma Ji]

There is no Hindu, Muslim and Christian for the communists,
have you ever heard of carl Marx and his books das kapital and the communist manifesto, if you haven't no point in baffling with you.

He believes in the green book, not das kapital.

 

[suyog chavan]

Frankly, I look at reality, facts and their background and not at the unnecessarily complicated Indian political system ( five-yearly elections, parties, seats and all ).

President Kovind is a Dalit and was once a leader of the BJP Dalit Morcha. They are "devout" Hindus like you said. Yet that didn't stop him and his wife from being harassed by Brahmin priests of the Jagannath temple in Odisha on their visit in 2018.

President Ramnath kovind wasn't harassed but was shoved by crowd of priests while performing puja in crowded space between the priests of puri temple ,
source -your favorite left leaning India today.

Fact Check: No misconduct with President Kovind at Puri

President Ram Nath Kovind and his wife were subject to no harassment at Puri's Jagannath temple as some news reports claimed, three months after the first couple visited the shrine, an India Today Viral Test has found.

www.indiatoday.in

 

[jamahir]

There is no Hindu, Muslim and Christian for the communists,
have you ever heard of carl Marx and his books das kapital and the communist manifesto, if you haven't no point in baffling with you.

I have read that booklet The Communist Manifesto some years ago.

And yes, I am a communist. You should read my posts keenly from now on. But do read this thread of mine where I propose a communist economic system and read this page on why the pre-2011 Libyan political system can be the communist political arrangement.

I am now logging off but you can leave any query in that proposal thread of mine.

 

[suyog chavan]

that's what I once heard from a man who knows this stuff... if your hands are your breadmakers, you're a shudra.

if they stop playing guitar and reading the ancient texts and teaching others, they become a brahman

if they start a music store.. vaishya

and if they change their "axes" for a real axe and go to war.. ban jaoge kshatriya lol

also, I have very little interest in this

Precisely defined,
This is called classification of the communities on the basis of their work (karm),
Not the English word >CASTE< coined by the British, who had zero knowledge of Sanatan dharm.

I have read that booklet The Communist Manifesto some years ago.

And yes, I am a communist. You should read my posts keenly from now on. But do read this thread of mine where I propose a communist economic system and read this page on why the pre-2011 Libyan political system can be the communist political arrangement.

I am now logging off but you can leave any query in that proposal thread of mine.

Socialism is a failed experiment by the communists regime , causing millions of deaths around the world,
recent failure of communists - Venezuela
next who - ??

 

[jamahir]

He believes in the green book, not das kapital.

I tried to read Das Kapital, which if I remember was in three part, but couldn't get much of the mathematics-filled content.

I think I have simplified some of the economics part of communism which you can you read in my proposal I linked to Suyog.

And yes, I believe in the political theory in the Green Book.

Logging off.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

That's right. Cover your eyes but also stick your fingers in your ears and be sure to sing "la la la this isn't really happening"..

Why are UK Hindus against a caste law? - BBC News

Some British Asians say they still experience discrimination due to their caste. So, why are virtually all Hindu bodies in the UK opposed to this being made illegal?

www.google.com

Why is the UK government wheeling back on legislation against caste discrimination?

Appeasing votebanks of the Hindu right, instead of legislation, a consultation has been launched which serves to obscure the ugly reality of caste-based discrimination which is alive and well in Britain.

www.opendemocracy.net

"As for Prakash Shah, he is quite open about his political position. He recently invited Makarand Paranjape, an extreme-right Hindu ideologue and Professor at Jawaharlal Nehru University in Delhi to speak at QMUL, and listened approvingly while Paranjape heaped scorn on his Dalit students. In his book 'Against Caste in British Law', Shah describes the legislation as a 'threat to Indian businesses and to the well-being and existence of the Indian communities' which would cause distress and create “a climate of intimidation”.

Shah's melodramatic language suggests that what is at stake here is not just the legislation outlawing caste discrimination, but a demonstration of the power of right-wing Hindu forces in Britain and their ability to get their own way. "

...Perhaps some of the wise Indian pdf-ers can explain why upper caste academics and politicians are RESISTING a specific law outlawing casteism if - as we are reassured on this very thread by some of our easterly associates @suyog chavan - caste is simply an administrative division of labour and the evil terrible British turned it into some evil discriminatory vehicle. Ironic that the same British are now warned by the usual "Hindu moderates and liberals" that a law against caste discrimination would be a bad idea.

@Musings @xeuss

 

[suyog chavan]

Manusmriti-derived caste system

No one takes manusmriti seriously not even the brahmins or the RSS,
and to be precise Manusmriti is not the religious text, smriti means views of the individual or author,
Manu (i.e the author of manusmriti) wrote his smriti (smriti is Sanskrit word for views or ideas) in his book called manusmriti.
there are total of 20 smritis other than the manusmriti written by different authors.
But communists wouldn't find your suitable propaganda in those 20 smritis.
So here we go Manu.

And yes, I believe in the political theory in the Green Book.

Then you cant be a communist,
A consumate word,
>HYPOCRITE<.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Makes more sense to target Europeans than Americans since this is the reality:
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Not many people are going to sit that long on a plane to visit that area of the world.



You are only putting down your own people since most people don't differentiate between Pakistanis and Indians in the US. You are just lumped together in people's minds into a generic "non-Asian Asian" bucket (with other countries like Bangladesh and Sri Lanka). Any things Indians are known for gets shared with you guys. Just like how you lump Europeans and Americans into a generic "white" bucket and transfer any British actions into the broader "white" one.



Seems you have some lingering issues with how the British treated your people.

I do and I have issues how you whities treated blacks in Africa/America and Effectively wiped away Native Americans, Native canadians, Native Aussies and New Zea Landers. Queen/Churchill starved Bangladeshis to death.

All this in name of civilizing us.

Whities have blood on their hands.

 

[suyog chavan]

It's the same in UK. The "wrong kind of Indian" has no chance vs the "right kind" even when both in identical jobs. The lower castes are constantly showed their place and the higher castes seethe because civilised employment law in most countries stops them taking the sort of action they might in Hindustan. In fact, they make it a point to remind their subjects that they should feel "grateful" that action is not taken against them as it "should be".

Indeed, the casteism extends to include Indian origin Christians and Muslims, who smile wryly over the blatant discriminatory efforts against them for the now firmly engrained "crime" their ancestors "committed" by converting out of Dalitism in their native Hindustan.

Looks like you don't have any idea, what caste PM MODI is ???