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by Franz-Stefan Gady
A contract for the delivery of the aircraft might be signed this month.

A collaboration contract for joint work and delivery of 154 Perspective Multirole Fighter (PMF), the derivative Indian version of the PAK FA T-50 fifth generation fighter jet, is expected to finally be signed during the Indo-Russian summit this December, The Financial Express reports.
The agreement, which already was supposed to have been signed this July, includes a fixed order of 154 aircraft, a definite work share commitment, and a detailed order of the number of single- versus double-seat PMF (aka Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft) fighter planes. According to the draft agreement, the aircraft will be built in India, but all of the components will be manufactured in Russia.
Additionally, the contract will likely include specifications regarding the 40 changes that the Indian Air Force (IAF) wants in comparison to the current T-50 prototype such as the aircraft’s AL-41F1 engine and its stealth and weapon-carrying capability.
As I reported previously, in early 2007 India and Russia agreed to jointly develop a fifth generation fighter jet. Unfortunately, the program has been plagued by delays, cost overruns, and unsteady technology; which, among other things, has affected the IAF’s plan to increase the number of combat squadrons from currently 32 (some sources say 35) to 42 by 2027 (See: “India’s Air Force Will Field 42 Combat Squadrons by 2027”).
As a result, according to a senior official in the Indian Ministry of Defense quoted by The Financial Express, the Indian government might need to reevaluate its negotiation position vis-à-vis Russia when it comes to details of the contract:
Given the current situation, where the Indian Air Force (IAF) is in deep trouble due to its fast depleting force structure, the Indian government will need to take well thought out decision with long-term and strategic foresight. There is no doubt that the PAK-FA (Sukhoi Design Proposal) will be emerge as a major FGFA in the world. Hence, it would be better for India to take a reality check on the FGFA and recalibrate its position.
Speaking to The Financial Express, retired Air Marshall M. Matheswaran provided some additional background info on the FGFA program:
The origins of FGFA proposals go back to 2002, when it was suggested by the Russians for an inter-governmental program. Given the urgency of its requirement for the badly-depleted Russian Air Force and the need for financial investment to cover the huge cost of the program, Russia hoped to address it through India as its partner. Besides, a huge order from the IAF would retain continuity in India-Russia military aircraft production relationship and help the Russian aircraft industry.
In the meantime, many things have happened. The IAF has downsized its requirement to just 64 aircraft as off-the shelf buy. Discussions on costs and role in non-existent design and development have resulted in a messy situation. The defense minister will have a tough call to make.
The Russian Air Force is slated to receive its first batch of PAK FA T-50 fifth generation fighter jets by late 2016 or early 2017. However, the current head of the Indian Air Force, Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha, is not counting on the successful completion of the Indo-Russian project:
If the FGFA comes through it is fine, otherwise the Indian FGFA — that is the AMCA, the advanced medium combat aircraft — we still have over 15 years to work on it before the MiG-29 upgraded aircraft retire, before the Mirage 2000 upgraded ones retire, as well as Jaguar upgraded ones retire in another 15 years.
Both countries have already invested around $230 million into the program. If the $35 billion deal is signed, it would be one of India’s most expensive defense procurement programs ever.
 
Bhai modi sarkar to military to power de rahi hai
 
Russian_Sukhoi_T_50_Stealth_Fighter_6.jpg

by Franz-Stefan Gady
A contract for the delivery of the aircraft might be signed this month.

A collaboration contract for joint work and delivery of 154 Perspective Multirole Fighter (PMF), the derivative Indian version of the PAK FA T-50 fifth generation fighter jet, is expected to finally be signed during the Indo-Russian summit this December, The Financial Express reports.
The agreement, which already was supposed to have been signed this July, includes a fixed order of 154 aircraft, a definite work share commitment, and a detailed order of the number of single- versus double-seat PMF (aka Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft) fighter planes. According to the draft agreement, the aircraft will be built in India, but all of the components will be manufactured in Russia.
Additionally, the contract will likely include specifications regarding the 40 changes that the Indian Air Force (IAF) wants in comparison to the current T-50 prototype such as the aircraft’s AL-41F1 engine and its stealth and weapon-carrying capability.
As I reported previously, in early 2007 India and Russia agreed to jointly develop a fifth generation fighter jet. Unfortunately, the program has been plagued by delays, cost overruns, and unsteady technology; which, among other things, has affected the IAF’s plan to increase the number of combat squadrons from currently 32 (some sources say 35) to 42 by 2027 (See: “India’s Air Force Will Field 42 Combat Squadrons by 2027”).
As a result, according to a senior official in the Indian Ministry of Defense quoted by The Financial Express, the Indian government might need to reevaluate its negotiation position vis-à-vis Russia when it comes to details of the contract:
Given the current situation, where the Indian Air Force (IAF) is in deep trouble due to its fast depleting force structure, the Indian government will need to take well thought out decision with long-term and strategic foresight. There is no doubt that the PAK-FA (Sukhoi Design Proposal) will be emerge as a major FGFA in the world. Hence, it would be better for India to take a reality check on the FGFA and recalibrate its position.
Speaking to The Financial Express, retired Air Marshall M. Matheswaran provided some additional background info on the FGFA program:
The origins of FGFA proposals go back to 2002, when it was suggested by the Russians for an inter-governmental program. Given the urgency of its requirement for the badly-depleted Russian Air Force and the need for financial investment to cover the huge cost of the program, Russia hoped to address it through India as its partner. Besides, a huge order from the IAF would retain continuity in India-Russia military aircraft production relationship and help the Russian aircraft industry.
In the meantime, many things have happened. The IAF has downsized its requirement to just 64 aircraft as off-the shelf buy. Discussions on costs and role in non-existent design and development have resulted in a messy situation. The defense minister will have a tough call to make.
The Russian Air Force is slated to receive its first batch of PAK FA T-50 fifth generation fighter jets by late 2016 or early 2017. However, the current head of the Indian Air Force, Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha, is not counting on the successful completion of the Indo-Russian project:
If the FGFA comes through it is fine, otherwise the Indian FGFA — that is the AMCA, the advanced medium combat aircraft — we still have over 15 years to work on it before the MiG-29 upgraded aircraft retire, before the Mirage 2000 upgraded ones retire, as well as Jaguar upgraded ones retire in another 15 years.
Both countries have already invested around $230 million into the program. If the $35 billion deal is signed, it would be one of India’s most expensive defense procurement programs ever.

This is unbelievable. I do not think this is Indian MOD and Bureaucracy.

I am going to close my eyes and meditate - Fake news Fake news Fake news.....
 
Oh my my, this will be a slap on the face of people suggesting Indo-Russian defence ties are a thing of the past and US/Euro Consortium will replace Russia as a Defence partner for India.
With T90M Bhishma, 2nd Nuclear Sub, S400, Pakfa/ PMF FGFA the book order will dwarf everything else.
 
Oh my my, this will be a slap on the face of people suggesting Indo-Russian defence ties are a thing of the past and US/Euro Consortium will replace Russia as a Defence partner for India.
With T90M Bhishma, 2nd Nuclear Sub, S400, Pakfa/ PMF FGFA the book order will dwarf everything else.
Hari OM Hari Om ................ abi to party shuru hui hai :chilli::chilli::chilli::chilli::chilli::chilli::chilli::chilli::chilli::chilli:
 
The author is asking a rhetorical question. Your title sounds like it is a confirmed fact.

India will purchase 154 fighter jets from Russia. != Will India purchase 154 fighter jets from Russia?

Like almost all rhetorical questions. The answer is most likely no.
 
The author is asking a rhetorical question. Your title sounds like it is a confirmed fact.

India will purchase 154 fighter jets from Russia. != Will India purchase 154 fighter jets from Russia?

Like almost all rhetorical questions. The answer is most likely no.
Just wait little more ............ Deal is almost finalised
 
And bhai log there is a possibility taht these birds will be totally made in india with technology transfer :yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:
Will India Purchase 154 Fighter Jets From Russia? | The Diplomat
Ab tera kya hoga ........................ kalia

Oh my my, this will be a slap on the face of people suggesting Indo-Russian defence ties are a thing of the past and US/Euro Consortium will replace Russia as a Defence partner for India.
With T90M Bhishma, 2nd Nuclear Sub, S400, Pakfa/ PMF FGFA the book order will dwarf everything else.

The article from Diplomat is referring to the below. We cannot celebrate Diwali yet.

Tough call for Manohar Parrikar on FGFA project
Defence minister Manohar Parrikar will have a tough call to make when he sits down to review the much-delayed fifth generation fighter aircraft...
By: Huma Siddiqui | New Delhi | October 22, 2015 12:04 AM

Defence minister Manohar Parrikar will have a tough call to make when he sits down to review the much-delayed fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) programme with his Russian counterpart during his visit to Moscow in November.
Speaking to FE, a senior MoD official, on condition of anonymity, said: “Given the current situation, where the Indian Air Force (IAF) is in deep trouble due to its fast depleting force structure, the Indian government will need to take well thought out decision with long-term and strategic foresight. There is no doubt that the PAK-FA (Sukhoi Design Proposal) will be emerge as a major FGFA in the world. Hence, it would be better for India to take a reality check on the FGFA and recalibrate its position.” Parrikar, who will be going for the the India-Russia Inter-Governmental Commission on Military-Technical Cooperation meeting ahead of the annual Indo-Russia summit, will review the FGFA project as well as the Medium Transport Aircraft (MTA) and other defence projects, MoD officials said.
According to air marshal (retd) M Matheswaran, “The origins of FGFA proposals go back to 2002, when it was suggested by the Russians for an inter-governmental programme. Given the urgency of its requirement for the badly-depleted Russian Air Force and the need for financial investment to cover the huge cost of the programme, Russia hoped to address it through India as its partner. Besides, a huge order from the IAF would retain continuity in India-Russia military aircraft production relationship and help the Russian aircraft industry.” Matheswaran, who is also doctoral faculty of Naval War College, Goa, said: “In the meantime, many things have happened. The IAF has downsized its requirement to just 64 aircraft as off-the shelf buy. Discussions on costs and role in non-existent design and development have resulted in a messy situation. The defence minister will have a tough call to make.”
Sources said the agreement that could be inked at the annual summit will also include a fixed order of 154 jets, work share and a firm commitment to the number of single versus double seat FGFA. With the Western sanctions impacting the Russian economy, President Vladmir Putin is keen that the FGFA programme with India fructifies as the joint programme will reduce development cost and guarantee an export customer. And for India, it would help it strengthen IAF’s dwindling squadrons.
First Published on October 22, 2015 12:04 am

Tough call for Manohar Parrikar on FGFA project | The Financial Express
 
The article from Diplomat is referring to the below. We cannot celebrate Diwali yet.

Tough call for Manohar Parrikar on FGFA project
Defence minister Manohar Parrikar will have a tough call to make when he sits down to review the much-delayed fifth generation fighter aircraft...
By: Huma Siddiqui | New Delhi | October 22, 2015 12:04 AM

Defence minister Manohar Parrikar will have a tough call to make when he sits down to review the much-delayed fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) programme with his Russian counterpart during his visit to Moscow in November.
Speaking to FE, a senior MoD official, on condition of anonymity, said: “Given the current situation, where the Indian Air Force (IAF) is in deep trouble due to its fast depleting force structure, the Indian government will need to take well thought out decision with long-term and strategic foresight. There is no doubt that the PAK-FA (Sukhoi Design Proposal) will be emerge as a major FGFA in the world. Hence, it would be better for India to take a reality check on the FGFA and recalibrate its position.” Parrikar, who will be going for the the India-Russia Inter-Governmental Commission on Military-Technical Cooperation meeting ahead of the annual Indo-Russia summit, will review the FGFA project as well as the Medium Transport Aircraft (MTA) and other defence projects, MoD officials said.
According to air marshal (retd) M Matheswaran, “The origins of FGFA proposals go back to 2002, when it was suggested by the Russians for an inter-governmental programme. Given the urgency of its requirement for the badly-depleted Russian Air Force and the need for financial investment to cover the huge cost of the programme, Russia hoped to address it through India as its partner. Besides, a huge order from the IAF would retain continuity in India-Russia military aircraft production relationship and help the Russian aircraft industry.” Matheswaran, who is also doctoral faculty of Naval War College, Goa, said: “In the meantime, many things have happened. The IAF has downsized its requirement to just 64 aircraft as off-the shelf buy. Discussions on costs and role in non-existent design and development have resulted in a messy situation. The defence minister will have a tough call to make.”
Sources said the agreement that could be inked at the annual summit will also include a fixed order of 154 jets, work share and a firm commitment to the number of single versus double seat FGFA. With the Western sanctions impacting the Russian economy, President Vladmir Putin is keen that the FGFA programme with India fructifies as the joint programme will reduce development cost and guarantee an export customer. And for India, it would help it strengthen IAF’s dwindling squadrons.
First Published on October 22, 2015 12:04 am

Tough call for Manohar Parrikar on FGFA project | The Financial Express
Whether it is tough or simple it is sure india is buying T50 directly from russia with TOT

Soon Modi government is lifting FDI in defence to 75% for foreign companies and this will make India a big HUB for defence manufacturing :yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::chilli::chilli::chilli::chilli::chilli::chilli::chilli::chilli:
 
Whether it is tough or simple it is sure india is buying T50 directly from russia with TOT

Yes. But we know that since 2010 when India-Russia singed the preliminary design contract for FGFA and India paid around $ 300 million to Russia.

We need to wait for the final contract to be signed before Diwali starts. Don't be in a hurry.
 
@jung41 I would suggest change the thread title. Nothing is finalized yet. Let's not count our chickens before the eggs hatch.
 

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