India will dump MMRCA Deal with France : Russian Media

[INDIAPOSITIVE]

Russian news and analysis website Pravda.Ru today has made a strange claim in its report that Indian authorities may cancel the contract that was signed with France in early September for the delivery of 126 Rafale fighters, should France refuse to supply Mistral vessels to Russia. The contract with India is evaluated from $20 to $22 billion.

First of all India still has not signed any agreement with France yet and most likely it will happen only next year .France has suspended “until further notice” the controversial delivery of a helicopter carrier to the Russian navy. President Francois Hollande blamed continuing unrest in eastern Ukraine, where Russia is accused of backing separatists in their fight against the government in Kiev.

It is highly unlikely that any dispute on delivery of Mistral-class amphibious assault ships to Russia will have any effect on MMRCA negotiation or India under pressure will terminate talks with France on purchase of 126 Rafale fighter jets . This is second time Russia media has linked dispute on delivery of Mistral-class ships with MMRCA in recent time , in directly warning France of larger hurting them in other military deals .

French online publication Breizh, international experts also had warned that France risked losing the reputation of a reliable arms supplier with its decision not to ship Mistral vessels to Russia and India under Russian Pressure might back off from MMRCA deal . Russia’s Ambassador to India, Alexander M. Kadakin recently slammed India’s decision to French Built Rafale and said that the Dassault Aviation-manufactured fighter aircraft could be shot down like a mosquito by a Chinese-manufactured or produced Sukhoi jet should there ever be a conflict in the neighborhood.

Russians might not have that level of cloud with India anymore to force India to drop plans to Purchase French Rafale fighter jets but it seems Frustrated Russia wants to hit back France and may be putting some level of pressure on India to dump MMRCA deal . Russian president Vladimir Putin will be visiting India next month and India and Russia are likely to take a call on Joint development of FGFA 5th generation fighter aircraft based on Russian Pak-Fa fighter jets .

India will dump MMRCA Deal with France : Russian Media | idrw.org

 

[sathya]

Deal should be signed soon or canceled soon..

Should not get delayed.

If Russia really wants to put pressure on rafale..
Then give India, a prototype of PAK FA.
That ll do all the lobbying for it..

 

[SrNair]

There was some fair chance if we dont have a shortage in squadrons .At this stage I dont think so.
IAF are virtually prepared for Rafale.Otherwise for a miracle Russian should offer us something big.

 

[Sneaker]

It brings an interesting point. Will France withhold support/spare for the planes if India gets involved in a conflict with a western ally as it did to Russia?

 

[The SC]

Russians can be mean to India if they choose to. They can cancel the Pak-Fa deal, or they can back order the stealth 5th generation plane for years, and then deliver faulty ones with well hidden faults that will only be found out years after delivery or in most dire circumstances and that too will take years to repair, only for other hidden bugs to be activated. Hence getting a lot of money from India and delivering an impotent platform. Since the world seems to go by the saying 'a friend of my enemy is my enemy and ...', Maybe this is already going on with the SU-30s.

 

[jarves]

Russians can be mean to India if they choose to. They can cancel the Pak-Fa deal, or they can back order the stealth 5th generation plane for years, and then deliver faulty ones with well hidden faults that will only be found out years after delivery or in most dire circumstances and that too will take years to repair, only for other hidden bugs to be activated. Hence getting a lot of money from India and delivering an impotent platform. Since the world seems to go by the saying 'a friend of my enemy is my enemy and ...', Maybe this is already going on with the SU-30s.

Thanks for your enlightening analysis.

 

[DrSomnath999]

Russian media at it's best

the problem with them is that they expect everyone to beleive whatever B.S they print /post in their media

Simply frustrated of recent events & that frustration is clearly visible through their media


1) US toppled the russians as biggest defence supplier of india

2) French are reluctant to state clearly whether they would give mistral to france or not

3) INdia calling Obama on republic day parade for the 1st time after independence

4) meanwhile indians have some issues regarding PAk-fa , Technology sharing , early induction

CHEERS

 

[mirage2K]

Why should we jeopardise our security and our defence preparedness for the Russians and cancel the MMRCA deal for the Rafales just because the French have embargoed the Russians and are refusing to supply them the Mistrals..did the Russians think about India's security concerns before agreeing to supply the Pakistanis with the Mi-35's and other items

 

[Asian.Century]

With J-20 activated squardron in 2017 & J-31 / PAK FC-31 Stealth jet to Pakistan....French Rafale of 126 jets is severely undermined....a strategic blunder....and waste of money. India has made it too late....for others to prepare.

Keeping in view Rafales deliveries to start around 2017.

 

[GORKHALI]

This is bound to happen that Russia resorted to BS news and rumours to get its things done.

Or it seems India might cancel FGFA for Rafale which makes sense than buying FGFA.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Russian news and analysis website Pravda.Ru today has made a strange claim in its report that Indian authorities may cancel the contract that was signed with France in early September for the delivery of 126 Rafale fighters, should France refuse to supply Mistral vessels to Russia. The contract with India is evaluated from $20 to $22 billion.

First of all India still has not signed any agreement with France yet and most likely it will happen only next year .France has suspended “until further notice” the controversial delivery of a helicopter carrier to the Russian navy. President Francois Hollande blamed continuing unrest in eastern Ukraine, where Russia is accused of backing separatists in their fight against the government in Kiev.

It is highly unlikely that any dispute on delivery of Mistral-class amphibious assault ships to Russia will have any effect on MMRCA negotiation or India under pressure will terminate talks with France on purchase of 126 Rafale fighter jets . This is second time Russia media has linked dispute on delivery of Mistral-class ships with MMRCA in recent time , in directly warning France of larger hurting them in other military deals .

French online publication Breizh, international experts also had warned that France risked losing the reputation of a reliable arms supplier with its decision not to ship Mistral vessels to Russia and India under Russian Pressure might back off from MMRCA deal . Russia’s Ambassador to India, Alexander M. Kadakin recently slammed India’s decision to French Built Rafale and said that the Dassault Aviation-manufactured fighter aircraft could be shot down like a mosquito by a Chinese-manufactured or produced Sukhoi jet should there ever be a conflict in the neighborhood.

Russians might not have that level of cloud with India anymore to force India to drop plans to Purchase French Rafale fighter jets but it seems Frustrated Russia wants to hit back France and may be putting some level of pressure on India to dump MMRCA deal . Russian president Vladimir Putin will be visiting India next month and India and Russia are likely to take a call on Joint development of FGFA 5th generation fighter aircraft based on Russian Pak-Fa fighter jets .

India will dump MMRCA Deal with France : Russian Media | idrw.org

$20BN and $22BN figures are 100% BS- shows the level of his "expert" analysis.

This is Russia trying to play games with the French regarding the Mistral deal that France looks to be cancelling. There is actually little relevance for India and the MMRCA deal.

 

[Ammyy]

With J-20 activated squardron in 2017 & J-31 / PAK FC-31 Stealth jet to Pakistan....French Rafale of 126 jets is severely undermined. India has made it too late....for others to prepare.

Bhai mere engine ka abhi pata nahi and u creating a squadron of J20 in 2017?

Keeping in view Rafales deliveries to start around 2017.

As per contract within 3 years 18 aircraft will be delivered

 

[Abingdonboy]

With J-20 activated squardron in 2017 & J-31 / PAK FC-31 Stealth jet to Pakistan....French Rafale of 126 jets is severely undermined....a strategic blunder....and waste of money. India has made it too late....for others to prepare.

Keeping in view Rafales deliveries to start around 2017.

J-20 in service in 2017? J-31 for PAF??? This is news to me!!





Someone needs a reality check

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Russia can make things difficult for us from TOMORROW if it wants

I am sure we will be dragged into the Mistral mess and
asked by the Russians to sit tight on the Rafale deal till Russians get their Mistrals

If Putin wants to put pressure on India to get Mistrals he will do so

 

[Asian.Century]

As per contract within 3 years 18 aircraft will be delivered

Donot want to derail an Indian thread, but Pakistan already prepared with its 4.5++ Gen 18 F-16 block 52s. So its been catered for.

Engine issue for J-20 & J-31 is not a major problem....the prototypes r out already.