"India will break-up like Russia"-Raut

[Hindustani78]

India is a fabrication of the british

Role of Maratha's is everywhere !!! Britishers were rooted out in Dakkan !!!

Shaan e Shah - Hai Dera Aabaad !!!

 

[Liaslia]

Yes, South India is real threat of breaking away from India

 

[Vapnope]

To be fair, i don't see it happening mostly because their democratic set up is still intact and Southerns aren't ready to go on a war with center despite differences. Now when US has aligned with India, even insurgencies wouldn't make it possible because a super power will be standing with India to ensure her territorial integrity. The break up of countries happen when super powers feel the need of break ups.

You can see the case of Catalonia in Spain where despite them clearly being better than rest of the spain cannot announce independence because EU will not accept it as an independent country.

 

[Hindustani78]

Yes,
The Shiv Sena claiming to represent Maratha power in the Indian state of Maharashtra thinks so too.

Rashtriya Sewa Sangh are closer to Peshwa Maharaj Sahab !!! Marathas is having the biggest Kingdom in Hindustan !!!

In the 1700s Marathas briefly ruled northern, central, and western India (with a tenuous alliance with a figurehead Mughal entity) believed that they were the natural rulers of India.

Marathas are still together with Travancore; Mysura; Shree Madurai; MahaRajamundry; Shree Ananthapuram; Hai Dara Aabaad, Bhopala; Shree Pala; Thoqra; Khalsa; Jodhpura; Jaipura; Mewat; Mewara; Jai Pala;

The Marathas were defeated and weakened by the Afghans in the North West and by the Mysore state in South. The British moved in defeating the Marathas and Sikhs in a series of wars.,

Marathas, Khalsa, Thoqra & Afghana defeated Safavid & Anglo Saxons, What is August Kranti is all about ??? Figure out !!!

Today it is ironic that the statement termed "Tukde Tukde " by their ally the BJP is being made by the Shiva Sena itself

Chaand pe Kingdoms ke Tukde Tukde !!! Hindustan Zindabad !!!

I don't know if India is going to breakup. But even if it did, it will be because of its own wrong doings not that Pakistan has the capability of breaking up India ;-)

You should say India will Explode !!! Mission Hindustan !!! Allah Hu AKbar !!!

 

[Vapnope]

Also the headline is misleading. There is a context to his statment without with the title is flamebait. The title should have been "India can break up like Russia".

 

[Markandeya]

Sena's Sanjay Raut's Wife Summoned For Questioning In PMC Bank Case

Shiv Sena leader Sanjay Raut's wife Varsha Raut has been summoned for questioning by the Enforcement Department in the PMC bank fraud case. She has to meet the officials on December 29 at the agency's Mumbai office.

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Its just the pain of getting caught and jailed and knowledge that the game is up... AND SO you want whole world to ALSO disintegrate ..

 

[Sharma Ji]

India is a fabrication of the british

It's a civilizational state.

Do you think the Seniks have actually reformed their Hindutva ways? Can they can give a tough time to BJP? Or they're just sloganeering?

Maratha and Dravidian nationalism can be a real pain for BJP.

They're a regional party, so no.

Maratha nationalism ? no, won't be a problem. The manoos are an extremely proud Indian people.

There are forces at work trying to co-opt some of the Dravidian (Tamil) nationalism "movement", but then again it's barely a movement.

Kashmir is a top priority in terms of development, connectivity, infra and integration for the current ruling dispensation in India, as is the north east.

The fast changing demographics in Assam is a point of concern, which is why there were plans for the now paused CAA and the NPR and NRC programs that went with it.

Overall, the state of the Indian union is STRONG !

Punjab, Balochistan, Pukhtoonistan aur Sindhudesh mein kya chal raha hai ?

 

[Nasr]

Maratha strongman Sanjay Raut, an ally of the BJP regime predicts India's breakup.
"Like Russia', country will disintegrate into several states:Sanjay Raut.

TNN
Shiv Sena politician and Rajya Sabha member

Sanjay Raut who is the executive editor of the party mouthpiece Saamna, has cautioned that it would not take long for the country to break into separate states, the way it happened "with the states in Russia", if the Narendra Modi government does not realise that ultimately it is the people who suffer when there is a political battle between the Centre and states.
Read the full story here.,.

Sanjay Raut: 'Like Russia', country will disintegrate into several states | Mumbai News - Times of India

Shiv Sena politician and Rajya Sabha member Sanjay Raut, who is the executive editor of the party mouthpiece Saamna, has cautioned that it would not t

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

I believe this person has little to no knowledge on making the distinction between Russia and the Soviet Union. Ah well, ignorance proliferates unabated!

 

[Baibars_1260]

@Baibars_1260 what do you make of the tussle between Shiv Sena and BJP?

Do you think the Seniks have actually reformed their Hindutva ways? Can they can give a tough time to BJP? Or they're just sloganeering?

Good question! Let us look back in time a little..
Churchill made the famous statement " India is no more a country than Europe ".
His famous essay and. speech "Our duty in India " ( available on line) was quite prophetic. He argued that only an outside force ( the British Empire) could hold India together. India was too diverse with widely different customs, languages, castes and religions to function as a single centrally governed republic. His predictions came true when India got Partitioned the moment the British handed "old India " independence. There was a formula for a Federation under the Cabinet Mission plan which the Congress party rejected.
Post independence the Congress pandered to regional linguistic, and ethnic passions by reorganizing provinces on linguistic lines. This was a recipe for disaster. The British had deliberately held the boundaries of the provinces across linguistic regions. Example; There was the Bombay Presidency whivh included Maharashtra and Gujarat so no linguistic nationalism could flourish. Any linguistic group would have to accommodate the other and English would be the default language, Once the provinces wete reorganized the linguistic passions began to develop into sub-nationalism . Any linguistic group holding a majority in a geographically defined area is half way to becoming a nation) Example:
Bangladesh).
India is going through for want of another word Bangladeshification or the Bangladesh Syndrome.,This was predicted in 1971 by US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger who promised India a "Bangladesh " in every bush of India "
Against this back drop the USA watched the emergence of Bangladesh. India's ethnic national chauvinism has also reached an absurd pitch.
Answer to your questions:
No, the Shiv Sena has not abandoned its Hindutva ideology. It has merely put it on hold, It will revive that handle when necessary such as the other temples of Mathura and Kashi. In the 1990s by espousing the Ayodhya movement and orchestrating a bloody communal pogrom it cut the powerful Maharashtra Congress down to size and secured an alliance with the BJP to firmly establish itself as a regional force.
The Shiv Sena has no national ambitions ( Example: It is unlikely to have a presence in Kerala). Now firmly established in Maharashtra it has no need for the Hindutva agenda. It is firmly in control of 35% of India's economy, its largest state, its most important port and high tech industrial sector.
By stoking Maharashtra pride the Shiv Sena has played the "outsider card" where other Indians attracted to the employment opportunities in Maharashtra are not welcome. The Shiv Sena has gone the extra mile trying to win over the Maharashtra Muslims . They are now voting for the Shiv Sena .
The BJP is unlikely to regain a foothold in the Maratha heartland. It gets it's support from the RSS dominated Chitpawan- Saraswat Brahmins, Ambedkar Dalits, resident Gujarati business community, second generation Sindhi "refugee " settlements, and the out of state UP, MP, Bihari, and South Indian labour force. This is still a minority population in Maharashtra but obviously one that is unlikely to vote for the Shiv Sena. Still based on the "Maratha Manoos " sentiment, and most of the Muslim votes the Shiv Sena is likely to keep winning elections. The battered Congress party prefers to support the Shiv Sena in power to deny the BJP a foothold in the state.

The Shiv Sena would like to ward off the threat of a BJP takeover which normally happens through bribery and coerced defection. This it is doing by reviving the centuries old Maratha sentiment against "Delhi rule". Now there is talk of secession which is the ultimate weapon against the BJP which wants 100% control over every state and territory in India without alliances or a coalition.

With a seaboard, rich natural resources, a substantial economy and some extremely big metropolitan cities Maharashtra has all the pre-requisites of being a nation in itself.
Far fetched at this time but the Shiv Sena has it's dreams...

Maratha and Dravidian nationalism can be a real pain for BJP.

Yes, regional ethnic chauvinism is something neither the BJP nor the Congress likes. The Congress tried to ignore the peril of the rise of regional ethnic chauvinism.In the process, apart from loosing its most charismatic leader abd her son , the Congress Party has been reduced to complete insignificance throughout India. The BJP has so far countered regional ethnic tensions by drumming up the anti-Pakistan, anti-Muslim hysteria. In the case of Maratha nationalism both these stances do not work because at the state level the Shiv Sena had long appropriated a leadership on these issues. The BJP has few options other than starting a war with Pakistan or raising the issue of the Mathura and Kashi temples, which it will undoubtedly attempt.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

"India" already is a mere figment of some bhaktistani's imagination.

Its official title: "the Secular Republic of India" is even more delusional.

 

[Baibars_1260]

I don't know if India is going to breakup. But even if it did, it will be because of its own wrong doings not that Pakistan has the capability of breaking up India ;-)

Agree, and it gets to be more likely that India will go that way on it's own.
With the death of the Congress party the unifying political factor is Hinduism rather than secular Nationalism.
As we have seen in the case of sham Islamic unity, religion is not a universal "glue" that binds a nation.
India being a bundle of sub-nationalities is unlikely to hold together on the force of religion alone.
Which is why Pakistan should not espouse the cause of Indian Muslims and create a unifying factor for a Hindu majority.
Once, the Pakistan factor is out of the equation regional, linguistic and ethnic chauvinism will tear India apart.

 

[KhanBaba2]

Russia did not breakup. The CCCP did.

 

[Cliftonite]

Post independence the Congress pandered to regional linguistic, and ethnic passions by reorganizing provinces on linguistic lines. This was a recipe for disaster. The British had deliberately held the boundaries of the provinces across linguistic regions

I agree with everything else but disagree with this. I think Congress' pandering to Sikhs and the Dravidians for the Punjab division and anti-Hindi imposition in the 60s and 70s respectively helped keep India together. If they had went the heavy handed way, India would have broken up, or definitely had more ethnic strife, much earlier.

The fast changing demographics in Assam is a point of concern, which is why there were plans for the now paused CAA and the NPR and NRC programs that went with it.

But the Bangladeshi Muslim migrant hysteria was disproven when it turned out that the majority of the CAA victims were Dharmics.

Kashmir is a top priority in terms of development, connectivity, infra and integration for the current ruling dispensation in India, as is the north east.

Lol.

Modi ek baar phir (or as you call it- fir)!!!

 

[Hindustani78]

Also the headline is misleading. There is a context to his statment without with the title is flamebait. The title should have been "India can break up like Russia".

Hindustan Ethnic Composition - Saare Brown Lund !!! Thoda Kesar Zyada Ya Kaam !!!

 

[fitpOsitive]

Maratha strongman Sanjay Raut, an ally of the BJP regime predicts India's breakup.
"Like Russia', country will disintegrate into several states:Sanjay Raut.

TNN
Shiv Sena politician and Rajya Sabha member

Sanjay Raut who is the executive editor of the party mouthpiece Saamna, has cautioned that it would not take long for the country to break into separate states, the way it happened "with the states in Russia", if the Narendra Modi government does not realise that ultimately it is the people who suffer when there is a political battle between the Centre and states.
Read the full story here.,.

Sanjay Raut: 'Like Russia', country will disintegrate into several states | Mumbai News - Times of India

Shiv Sena politician and Rajya Sabha member Sanjay Raut, who is the executive editor of the party mouthpiece Saamna, has cautioned that it would not t

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Pakistan should accelerate this process. I am not in favor of genocide and extermination of any religion, but India is the reason why Pakistan has an abnormal social and economic structure. If India gets divided into many states, then Pakistan can also walk in right direction.
When India divides, Pakistan should refrain from occupying any space from resulting states, as this will start the same cycles as what was started by external invaders in India.
Jo jahan hai, woh wahin rahy, apny kherchy pe.