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India-US defense cooperation: much cry and little wool
Yang Siling, September 30, 2017
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On Monday, US Defense Secretary James Mattis arrived in India to promote American weapons and tout for American strategy. Some Indian media claimed that stronger India-US defense cooperation is aimed against China.

India has indeed kept enhancing defense cooperation with the US in recent years. The two sides signed a Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement in 2016 and transport aircraft and drone deals when Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi visited the US in June this year. It is said that the contracted value of military purchases between the two since 2008 has reached $14 billion. Yet deeper India-US defense cooperation is not without obstacles.

First, US-Pakistan relations give India a reason for distrust. Though Pakistan’s position in America’s regional and global strategies is declining, the US will never abandon Pakistan, because the latter remains geopolitically significant.

There are serious doubts about a lasting American stance on India-Pakistan relations. Some ask “Why does the US always tell India to live in peace with Pakistan?” Although America has promised to strengthen strategic partnership with India, it will not cease weapon deals with Pakistan.

In February 2016 when the US approved the sale of eight F-16 fighters to Pakistan, the Indian Ministry of External Affairs summoned the American ambassador and expressed India’s “disappointment.”

Second, there are doubts about the India-US strategic partnership within India. Despite obvious improvement of India-US relations and growth of their partnership, some Indians believe India’s accommodation of US diplomatic policies has not yielded benefits. Alleged threats from Pakistan and China have not eased.

The US has Pakistan under tight control, but no actions have been taken to stop Pakistan from fighting proxy wars and terrorism. Until today, the US has not helped to secure for India a permanent member seat at the UN Security Council. The US, while pressuring India to cripple its nuclear arsenal, will only compromise on an expanded Indian presence in the Indian Ocean under its sphere of influence.

Third, India doubts whether the US truly intends to contain China. Relations among major powers are not all a zero-sum game or pure cooperation, but in fact a mixture of conflict and collaboration.

Although the US does seek to contain China which is also its closest economic partner, the China-US economic relationship is beyond comparison with that of India and the US. So there is naturally both conflict and closeness in political and economic interaction between China and the US. India grew jealous when G2 was invented. US President Donald Trump is expected to visit China in November, which will inevitably trigger India’s speculations about Sino-US relations and make India calculate the real intention of the US toward India.

Fourth, the Indian government cannot afford to throw itself into the arms of the US. India aims to become a global power and so treasures its independence as both a sign of dignity and diplomatic strategy. India has been trying to benefit from cooperation with the US while avoiding a close partnership. Once India is wholeheartedly dependant on the US, then its dream of being a global power will become a joke.

In this sense, India’s dignity and vanity is an obstacle for deeper defense collaboration with the US. The US also hopes to sign agreements on each and every item of defense cooperation, but India worries that too many agreements will give the world the impression that India has become America’s sidekick.

Fifth, the US is not totally satisfied with its cooperation with India in economic and regional affairs and so exercises vigilance against India. Actually the US will never be satisfied with India until it decides to be its pawn.

Take the US attitude toward Iran as an example. The US deploys extreme pressure and sanctions while India still needs energy from Iran.

Under the Trump administration, despite enhanced defense collaboration, Trump asks India to strike a balance in the India-US economic and trade relationship, which is obviously beyond India’s capability. Some in the US believe India may develop into a threat like China and so they do not go all out on defense cooperation, especially the transfer of advanced technologies.

Last, conflicts in defense technology cooperation may also prevent collaboration going deeper. The US seeks to influence arms buyers through training, maintenance and even control of core defense technologies whereas India aims for a transfer of military technology. The division is quite obvious, and thus another obstacle.

With obstacles ahead, India-US defense cooperation will be no different from the past: much cry and little wool.
SOURCE GLOBAL TIMES
http://southasianmonitor.com/2017/09/30/india-us-defense-cooperation-much-cry-little-wool/
 
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Perfect and spot on assessment...The point is if US can abandon Pakistan who has done so much for US in last 70 year then same way US can dump India or any other nation too...US is not a trusred partner for Non White nations..This is a fact which none of our politician says in media but this is abtrue state of India US relation..
 
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Perfect and spot on assessment...The point is if US can abandon Pakistan who has done so much for US in last 70 year then same way US can dump India or any other nation too...US is not a trusred partner for Non White nations..This is a fact which none of our politician says in media but this is abtrue state of India US relation..

Yes, I presume India is run by idiots that they can't be relied upon if US is taking them for a ride. Forget that Indo-US relation is not a suicide pact. That India has told US 'no' more than once, including deploying its military in Afghanistan. US realizes fully well that India values its independence and will make accommodations that serve both US and Indian interests, which is mostly around China.
 
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Perfect and spot on assessment...The point is if US can abandon Pakistan who has done so much for US in last 70 year then same way US can dump India or any other nation too...US is not a trusred partner for Non White nations..This is a fact which none of our politician says in media but this is abtrue state of India US relation..

There is a difference. Pakistan is an aid recipient country, while India is not. India is a huge military market, forget its consumer market for US corporate. While defense expenditure across the world is on decline, India is one of the very few countries that is projected to have a defense expenditure of $200 billion by 2030. So no need to panic. We are on correct path. The need of the hour to checkmate China in IOR, so that India can protect its influence in this region
 
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India-US defense cooperation: much cry and little wool
Yang Siling, September 30, 2017
india_us.jpg

On Monday, US Defense Secretary James Mattis arrived in India to promote American weapons and tout for American strategy. Some Indian media claimed that stronger India-US defense cooperation is aimed against China.

India has indeed kept enhancing defense cooperation with the US in recent years. The two sides signed a Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement in 2016 and transport aircraft and drone deals when Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi visited the US in June this year. It is said that the contracted value of military purchases between the two since 2008 has reached $14 billion. Yet deeper India-US defense cooperation is not without obstacles.

First, US-Pakistan relations give India a reason for distrust. Though Pakistan’s position in America’s regional and global strategies is declining, the US will never abandon Pakistan, because the latter remains geopolitically significant.

There are serious doubts about a lasting American stance on India-Pakistan relations. Some ask “Why does the US always tell India to live in peace with Pakistan?” Although America has promised to strengthen strategic partnership with India, it will not cease weapon deals with Pakistan.

In February 2016 when the US approved the sale of eight F-16 fighters to Pakistan, the Indian Ministry of External Affairs summoned the American ambassador and expressed India’s “disappointment.”

Second, there are doubts about the India-US strategic partnership within India. Despite obvious improvement of India-US relations and growth of their partnership, some Indians believe India’s accommodation of US diplomatic policies has not yielded benefits. Alleged threats from Pakistan and China have not eased.

The US has Pakistan under tight control, but no actions have been taken to stop Pakistan from fighting proxy wars and terrorism. Until today, the US has not helped to secure for India a permanent member seat at the UN Security Council. The US, while pressuring India to cripple its nuclear arsenal, will only compromise on an expanded Indian presence in the Indian Ocean under its sphere of influence.

Third, India doubts whether the US truly intends to contain China. Relations among major powers are not all a zero-sum game or pure cooperation, but in fact a mixture of conflict and collaboration.

Although the US does seek to contain China which is also its closest economic partner, the China-US economic relationship is beyond comparison with that of India and the US. So there is naturally both conflict and closeness in political and economic interaction between China and the US. India grew jealous when G2 was invented. US President Donald Trump is expected to visit China in November, which will inevitably trigger India’s speculations about Sino-US relations and make India calculate the real intention of the US toward India.

Fourth, the Indian government cannot afford to throw itself into the arms of the US. India aims to become a global power and so treasures its independence as both a sign of dignity and diplomatic strategy. India has been trying to benefit from cooperation with the US while avoiding a close partnership. Once India is wholeheartedly dependant on the US, then its dream of being a global power will become a joke.

In this sense, India’s dignity and vanity is an obstacle for deeper defense collaboration with the US. The US also hopes to sign agreements on each and every item of defense cooperation, but India worries that too many agreements will give the world the impression that India has become America’s sidekick.

Fifth, the US is not totally satisfied with its cooperation with India in economic and regional affairs and so exercises vigilance against India. Actually the US will never be satisfied with India until it decides to be its pawn.

Take the US attitude toward Iran as an example. The US deploys extreme pressure and sanctions while India still needs energy from Iran.

Under the Trump administration, despite enhanced defense collaboration, Trump asks India to strike a balance in the India-US economic and trade relationship, which is obviously beyond India’s capability. Some in the US believe India may develop into a threat like China and so they do not go all out on defense cooperation, especially the transfer of advanced technologies.

Last, conflicts in defense technology cooperation may also prevent collaboration going deeper. The US seeks to influence arms buyers through training, maintenance and even control of core defense technologies whereas India aims for a transfer of military technology. The division is quite obvious, and thus another obstacle.

With obstacles ahead, India-US defense cooperation will be no different from the past: much cry and little wool.
SOURCE GLOBAL TIMES
http://southasianmonitor.com/2017/09/30/india-us-defense-cooperation-much-cry-little-wool/

India is not going to join any sort of alliance along the lines of NATO. That's for sure. I don't know what GLOBAL TIMES expects, judging by their language they almost expect the world to be divided into a bipolar system between Beijing and Washington.

Those were old times where people were emerging from war ravaged independence-seeking countries and that was the reason why Cold War became a norm.

Today, everyone has their interests, insecurities and plans.

No bipolar world.

G-2 will remain a pipe dream.
 
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Really!
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...t-of-US-economic-aid/articleshow/48093123.cms
While in case of Pakistan its all time low to almost non existent. Why do you think US has not been able to get its way from Pakistan now if we are receiving so much aid?

As far as I know Pakistan still is looking at US. So, US will have its way with Pakistan. Anyway, $ 33 billion is 15 years is not a small amount. And why do India need economic aid from US? India's forex reserves are more than $400 billion. India is predicted to be top three economies by 2030.
 
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As far as I know Pakistan still is looking at US. So, US will have its way with Pakistan. Anyway, $ 33 billion is 15 years is not a small amount. And why do India need economic aid from US? India's forex reserves are more than $400 billion. India is predicted to be top three economies by 2030.

India like to use the term"set to", "about to" and "will become" such as India will become a Superpower by 2012. I forgot "predicted to" such as "India is predicted to be top three economies by 2030."
 
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As far as I know Pakistan still is looking at US. So, US will have its way with Pakistan. Anyway, $ 33 billion is 15 years is not a small amount. And why do India need economic aid from US? India's forex reserves are more than $400 billion. India is predicted to be top three economies by 2030.
Well you know it wrong because we are not. and secondly i gave you an Indian link on the amount of aid you take from US so ask them why do they think India needs or needed in the past?
 
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