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Budgam: Indian missile fired before Mi17 V5 chopper crash
Preliminary findings show system was activated after Mi17 V5 showed on radar; IAF for tough action.
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Manu Pubby

NEW DELHI: Investigators have found that an Indian air defence missile was fired shortly before the crash of a Mi17 V5 helicopter at Budgam, near Srinagar on February 27, which resulted in the deaths of six air force personnel and a citizen on ground. The investigators are examining the sequence of events which preceded the crash.
The final moments preceding the crash, including if the IFF (Identity, Friend or Foe) systems were switched on or not, are being carefully looked at to determine what went wrong. The air force brass, highly placed sources told ET, has made it clear that it would not shy away from initiating court martial proceedings against personnel if they are found blameworthy in the inquiry.
ET has learnt that the focus of the investigation now is to determine if multiple layers of safeguards meant to protect assets from friendly fire failed and how systems need to be improved to prevent any such incident in the future. Sources said that the missile – believed to be of Israeli origin – was activated after an air defence alert was sounded over Jammu and Kashmir, besides other parts of the border, after a over 25 Pakistani air force jets were detected along the border on the morning feb 27
The alert, sources said, indicated that Pakistani jets may be trying to breach the border for a strike on Indian military targets and there were concerns that armed UAVs available with that country may also have been deployed. A slow moving target like the Mi 17 V 5 helicopter could potentially be mistaken for a low flying armed UAV homing into an air base, according to these sources.

“When an air defence alert is sounded, several things take place. There are a set of rules that transport aircraft and helicopters need to follow and there are set entry and egress routes demarcated for aircraft flying. Also, aircraft are to switch on their IFF (Identify, Friend or Foe) systems,” sources told ET.


They added that all angles are being probed to determine if lapses took place and where. A senior officer is conducting the court of inquiry into the crash and has been given access to all inputs available with ground controllers as well as the actions of the helicopter in the ten minutes that it was in the air. As reported by ET, the chopper crashed in the 10-minute span when IAF jets were engaged in an aerial battle with the Pakistan Air Force fighters, along the Line of Control in the
Nowshera sector, and air defence systems were on operational alert. Command and control systems were under immense pressure as reports of attempted intrusions were sounded along the border.

The Indian side officially acknowledged the crash but has not mentioned it in official statements on the aerial battle and the current conflict with Pakistan. In its official statement, the Pakistani military acknowledged the aerial battle over Nowshera but said its fighters were not involved in the chopper incident.

Mi17V5 is one of the sturdiest choppers in service across the world and is not usually prone to technical faults of catastrophic nature. Eyewitness reported that a loud explosion was heard in the air before the chopper crashed in a trail of smoke, indicating a possible catastrophic external event contributed to the incident.

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Who are saying Indians cannot shoot to kill, and they are bad marksmen, it is another thing they kill their own men, call it collateral damage, friendly fire anything.

BTW this is not something new, the stage set, false flag operations Indian RAW/establishment have mastered over the year in killing their own men and blaming it on Pakistan is coming full circle.


Too bad they cannot blame this on Pakistan...
 
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Apparently these idiots shot down their own MI17

Another "L" for IAF


They stopped short of blaming this on Pakistan as per their habit...

its collateral damage :p:


It is the only damage...collateral damage arises if they, Indians have shot down many PAF planes, done other killings and damages.
 
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they hiding it with IFS BUTS MAY BES :lol: but i am still ok with AMRAAM hit the mi-17

Hiding it? Then from where did you get this news report? As a Pakistani you won't understand the meaning of transparency, but I understand. You guys still believe Pakistani army was not involved in Kargil war and no Pakistani soldier dies during cease fire violations.
 
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Hiding it? Then from where did you get this news report? As a Pakistani you won't understand the meaning of transparency, but I understand. You guys still believe Pakistani army was not involved in Kargil war and no Pakistani soldier dies during cease fire violations.

What is the name of the SU-30 pilot who died?
 
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Hiding it? Then from where did you get this news report? As a Pakistani you won't understand the meaning of transparency, but I understand. You guys still believe Pakistani army was not involved in Kargil war and no Pakistani soldier dies during cease fire violations.
leave aside your lecture to us . till now your gov did not officially accept that abhi nandan was POW .:rofl: or mig-21 was shot down . while whole world was showing abhi in Pakistani hands your media and gov was saying a mig crashed with technical issue pilot is missing .
baat kerta hai :lol:
 
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Ask this man


He and others have beaten him up and handed him over to the Pakistani army. Then your Gafoor stated that the pilot was being treated in army hospital, then your PM Abdul stated two migs were brought down and both pilots captured. Don't ask me, ask them. But beware, you might dissapear like all others who ask tough questions to your army.
This guy was tens of miles away from where abhi-none-done was captured and chitrolled. Further more, he says that the pilot was a sikh. either sikh was su30 pilot the abhi-none-done was the su30 pilot. evidence suggests abhi-none-done was the doomed su30 pilot. there is definitely a 2nd pilot either dead, missing or in custody.
 
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But Mr. Gafoor's statements were epic, 3.2.1.. pilots, also claimed one of them was being treated in a army hospital, then no F-16 were used, then few days back he claocla entire PAF fleet was on air..lolz

1. So you assumed that it would be a Pakistani pilot who might be missing
2. You assumed it was a F16
3. And you assumed he was lynched by his own people

The keyword in this whole story is "assumed". You can imagine how weak your position is in this whole episode
 
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This guy was tens of miles away from where abhi-none-done was captured and chitrolled. Further more, he says that the pilot was a sikh. either sikh was su30 pilot the abhi-none-done was the su30 pilot. evidence suggests abhi-none-done was the doomed su30 pilot. there is definitely a 2nd pilot either dead, missing or in custody.

Good point, he recognized the pilot was Sikh because he had a beard. Surely the pilot wasn't wearing a turban. IAF pilots cannot have beards, but PAF pilots do have. Secondly he did show blood on his shirt which according to him was of that Sikh pilot. I hope he is recovering well in your Army hospital.
 
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