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(Bloomberg) -- India may be the last BRIC standing.

As Brazil, Russia and China hit hurdles, it’s the poorest member of Goldman Sachs Group Inc.’s emerging-market group that’s proving a darling of global investors. The International Monetary Fund is predicting India will next year grow faster than each of its BRIC counterparts for the first time since 1999.

So far this year, more than $7 billion has poured into the country’s stocks and bonds, on top of last year’s $42 billion of inflows. The country’s benchmark equity index reached a record at the end of last month. Falling oil prices are helping the government reduce its budget deficit and giving room to the central bank to lower interest rates.

Adding luster are Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s pledges to make it easier for businesses to invest in India, and the determination by the central bank, helmed by former IMF chief economist Raghuram Rajan, to keep inflation contained.

Since taking office in May, Modi has started cutting red tape, implored manufacturers to move factories to his nation and used executive orders to pressure parliament to approve bills that would spur investment in insurance and coal.

Over at the Reserve Bank of India, Rajan successfully shored up the rupee after it fell to a record low in 2013. He then held off on cutting interest rates until last month, when evidence showed inflation was heading below his target.

Market Confidence

“There are probably more positive stories to tell about India than there are about the other BRICs at this stage,” said Neil Shearing, chief emerging markets economist at Capital Economics Ltd. in London. “The market has corralled behind Mr. Modi and the idea of very rapid growth.”

India isn’t without its challenges as it continues to play catch-up with other major developing nations. Its gross domestic product per capita, at $1,165 as of 2013, is less than a third of China’s $3,583, according to World Bank data.

When China was at India’s level of development, it went on to record average economic growth of about 10 percent over the following decade. Beset by power shortages, transport bottlenecks and a dearth of skilled labor, few forecasters see India emulating that performance.
“There’s huge potential in India, but the optimists may have got a bit ahead of themselves,” said Shearing. “The jury is still out, but by the end of the year we’ll know more.”

IMF Outlook

When the IMF last month revised its economic forecasts, it barely changed its outlook for India while slashing those for this year and next in Brazil, Russia and China. It predicts growth of 6.5 percent next year, compared with China’s 6.3 percent.

Brazil has been pounded by the collapse in commodity prices as its policy makers face a looming recession and run up record budget deficits. The biggest drought in decades is adding to the pressure, and the real dropped 18 percent against the dollar in the past six months.

In a sign of the times, onetime darling state-run oil giant Petroleo Brasileiro SA is mired in a corruption scandal that last week cost its chief executive officer her job. It has fallen short of growth targets and is now worth a fraction of its $310 billion 2008 market-peak.

Russia Crisis

As for Russia, its incursion into Ukraine has left it a pariah in financial markets, and a cocktail of sanctions, plunging oil prices and capital flight is propelling it toward recession. Inflation is running at the fastest pace since 2008, amid the worst currency crisis since the nation defaulted in 1998.

While China is faring better, its leaders are contending with capital outflows, depreciation pressure on the yuan and the risks of a property crash and deflation. The world’s second largest economy is steadily decelerating, with last year recording the slowest pace of growth since 1990.

2015 Outperformer

“We expect India to be a relative outperformer in emerging markets in 2015,” Tushar Poddar, an economist at Goldman Sachs in Mumbai, said in remarks on the year’s outlook last month. He cited boosts from external demand thanks to many central banks easing policy, domestic rate cuts and pro-growth structural changes from the government.

Today, the Modi administration releases its updated estimate for GDP for the fiscal year through March. Rajan, for one, has underscored that his nation has plenty of work to do to assure a sustained pickup in growth.

“We’re still sort of reaching the outskirts of the woods rather than out of them,” the Reserve Bank Governor said in a Feb. 4 interview with Bloomberg TV India. “What I see in the Indian economy is a recovery.”










 
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Do not worry guys, we indians are known for shooting ourselves in our foot...we want freebies, so we would rather vote for a govt that promises free water, free electricity than a govt which is doing to reduce clutter in bureacracy and tightening them and making policy changes etc...sp in no time we will be back to becoming slow sluggish india
 
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11 June 2012 :P

'Fallen angel': India could be the first BRIC nation to downgraded as S and P report says Sonia and PM's division of roles is blocking reforms | Daily Mail Online

And then came Modi :tup:

Do not worry guys, we indians are known for shooting ourselves in our foot...we want freebies, so we would rather vote for a govt that promises free water, free electricity than a govt which is doing to reduce clutter in bureacracy and tightening them and making policy changes etc...sp in no time we will be back to becoming slow sluggish india

Relax. AAP will not last long. People of Delhi will soon realize that they are incapable of governing.
 
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Relax. AAP will not last long. People of Delhi will soon realize that they are incapable of governing.
may be.. currently the central govt is taking bold steps, steps which are not populist but are pragmatic to strengthen our economy..but my concern is that few more election defeats to left leaning political parties and BJP will be foreced to move itself to left and take populist measures...
 
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Do not worry guys, we indians are known for shooting ourselves in our foot...we want freebies, so we would rather vote for a govt that promises free water, free electricity than a govt which is doing to reduce clutter in bureacracy and tightening them and making policy changes etc...sp in no time we will be back to becoming slow sluggish india

AAP will only be in Delhi.Nations Growth Engines are out of our capital area like Gujarat and other states.

may be.. currently the central govt is taking bold steps, steps which are not populist but are pragmatic to strengthen our economy..but my concern is that few more election defeats to left leaning political parties and BJP will be foreced to move itself to left and take populist measures...

Only remaining challenge of BJP is UP and Bihar.Rest of the states except Karnataka is not interested in BJP
 
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AAP will only be in Delhi.Nations Growth Engines are out of our capital area like Gujarat and other states.



Only remaining challenge of BJP is UP and Bihar.Rest of the states except Karnataka is not interested in BJP

Currently, Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, Chhatisgarh and Goa are BJP bastions.
In the long term, BJP will establish itself as the primary party in states like Maharashtra, Bihar, Rajsthan, HP, Uttarakhand and Haryana.

If they can get their acts together, will be sure shot contenders in UP, WB, Karnataka and Seemandhra.

That means around 75% of the industrial output will be streamlined with the policies of the BJP givernment at the center (I am assuming that Modi will be PM till 2023).
 
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Currently, Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, Chhatisgarh and Goa are BJP bastions.
In the long term, BJP will establish itself as the primary party in states like Maharashtra, Bihar, Rajsthan, HP, Uttarakhand and Haryana.

If they can get their acts together, will be sure shot contenders in UP, WB, Karnataka and Seemandhra.

That means around 75% of the industrial output will be streamlined with the policies of the BJP givernment at the center (I am assuming that Modi will be PM till 2023).

Perhaps Congress would also agree with that.Because it will be good for our nationap prosperity and will give relaxing time to repair the damage that they got from 2014 LS election.
 
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:lol: So predictable that the media is relating that with the new government and Modi, although neither Indias growth is related to anything that was changed in the last 7 months, nor are we suddenly outperforming the other countries, since Brazil is falling for quiet some time, Russia is highly effected by the Ukraine crisis and sanctions and Chinas growth reduction was predicted years ago and is even visible for some years now.
The PM and the NDA has yet to show actual changes to improve the economy and growth by delivering a proper budget with investments into infrastructure and reforms to make it easier for foreign companies to invest, because this is the time to take advantage of the weakness of other countries and push forward!

Capital flow to EM.PNG


The above chart shows, that since the global financial crisis in 2008, the FDI into emerging markets rapidly went down, because investors didn't took much risks anymore. Good PR of the PM during foreign visits alone and even the FDI limit increase won't bring them back to India. The foreign and even most of Indian industry is waiting for more credible reforms to really give the economy a push.

Export growth EM.PNG

Again since the global financial crisis in 2008, the export from emerging markets rapidly went down, because the global demand was far lower. That's one reason why Chinas growth got hit so much since then and why it is so difficult to get foreign companies outsource production to India (Make in India). If the PM wants to counter the trend, he needs to do more than good PR for the agenda, to not only make India a production hub, but also to use that to export products.


The NDA was voted into the government with huge trust of the Indian voter to bring credible changes in several fields, including a new push to the economy. If they now sit back and just show to the new GDP rates, that "looks" higher because of a new calculation method, or to the other BRICS countries that doing worse because of their own problems, it would be a huge disappointment. They have the mandate and the chance to actually do big things for India, lets hope that this doesn't go down in the usual party politics in India.
 
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:lol: So predictable that the media is relating that with the new government and Modi, although neither Indias growth is related to anything that was changed in the last 7 months, nor are we suddenly outperforming the other countries, since Brazil is falling for quiet some time, Russia is highly effected by the Ukraine crisis and sanctions and Chinas growth reduction was predicted years ago and is even visible for some years now.
The PM and the NDA has yet to show actual changes to improve the economy and growth by delivering a proper budget with investments into infrastructure and reforms to make it easier for foreign companies to invest, because this is the time to take advantage of the weakness of other countries and push forward!

View attachment 191619

The above chart shows, that since the global financial crisis in 2008, the FDI into emerging markets rapidly went down, because investors didn't took much risks anymore. Good PR of the PM during foreign visits alone and even the FDI limit increase won't bring them back to India. The foreign and even most of Indian industry is waiting for more credible reforms to really give the economy a push.

View attachment 191618
Again since the global financial crisis in 2008, the export from emerging markets rapidly went down, because the global demand was far lower. That's one reason why Chinas growth got hit so much since then and why it is so difficult to get foreign companies outsource production to India (Make in India). If the PM wants to counter the trend, he needs to do more than good PR for the agenda, to not only make India a production hub, but also to use that to export products.


The NDA was voted into the government with huge trust of the Indian voter to bring credible changes in several fields, including a new push to the economy. If they now sit back and just show to the new GDP rates, that "looks" higher because of a new calculation method, or to the other BRICS countries that doing worse because of their own problems, it would be a huge disappointment. They have the mandate and the chance to actually do big things for India, lets hope that this doesn't go down in the usual party politics in India.


The next 2 years will dumb down sceptics like you. The reform ball has already been set rolling. This year's budget is likely to bring in more.
 
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The next 2 years will dumb down sceptics like you. The reform ball has already been set rolling. This year's budget is likely to bring in more.

:rolleyes: I am not a sceptic only because I point to facts and the only reform the new government got rolling so far is the tax reform, but that alone doesn't get our economy to "real" 8 to 9% growth. I am hoping that they do more and that the new budget will actually bring the needed push for India, be it for Indias defence or the economy.
 
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:lol: So predictable that the media is relating that with the new government and Modi, although neither Indias growth is related to anything that was changed in the last 7 months, nor are we suddenly outperforming the other countries, since Brazil is falling for quiet some time, Russia is highly effected by the Ukraine crisis and sanctions and Chinas growth reduction was predicted years ago and is even visible for some years now.
The PM and the NDA has yet to show actual changes to improve the economy and growth by delivering a proper budget with investments into infrastructure and reforms to make it easier for foreign companies to invest, because this is the time to take advantage of the weakness of other countries and push forward!

View attachment 191619

The above chart shows, that since the global financial crisis in 2008, the FDI into emerging markets rapidly went down, because investors didn't took much risks anymore. Good PR of the PM during foreign visits alone and even the FDI limit increase won't bring them back to India. The foreign and even most of Indian industry is waiting for more credible reforms to really give the economy a push.

View attachment 191618
Again since the global financial crisis in 2008, the export from emerging markets rapidly went down, because the global demand was far lower. That's one reason why Chinas growth got hit so much since then and why it is so difficult to get foreign companies outsource production to India (Make in India). If the PM wants to counter the trend, he needs to do more than good PR for the agenda, to not only make India a production hub, but also to use that to export products.


The NDA was voted into the government with huge trust of the Indian voter to bring credible changes in several fields, including a new push to the economy. If they now sit back and just show to the new GDP rates, that "looks" higher because of a new calculation method, or to the other BRICS countries that doing worse because of their own problems, it would be a huge disappointment. They have the mandate and the chance to actually do big things for India, lets hope that this doesn't go down in the usual party politics in India.


Its just a personal question from me and nothing else. Please take it lightheartedly.
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Being one of my most respected senior members on this forum from whom I have learnt so many things related to Indian defense, I find it amusing that you discredit this current government so much on this forum even before 1 year is completed. I never saw you do the same to the previous government :undecided:
 
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Perhaps Congress would also agree with that.Because it will be good for our national prosperity and will give relaxing time to repair the damage that they got from 2014 LS election.
Mate!!! please do not even say Congress, Jayanthi Natrajan revelation on Rahul make me so ashamed and angry that this idiot was playing with billion people hope and dream for politics. Not providing clearance by minister (Vedanta, Posco, Adani,etc) on recommendation of Rahul is just utter nonsense who the hell he think he is.
He must be thrown out of country for betraying India, complete lunatic. BJP need to be in power till 2024 minimum. By then conservatively we should be 5 trillion economy if MODI is given free hand. I think as citizen of this country it is becoming real important we made sure BJP wins Bihar, Bengal and UP in next 2 year. Especially Mamta DIDI need to go fromWB, i don't know why people voted for her:hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:

AAP need to be contained in Delhi only, as their Dharna and Free sops style politics can do maximum damages as no work will happen, as some one will raise corruption issue and Sarkari BABU official will not take any decision thinking to get caught in the tangle of AAP .:o::o:
 
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Currently, Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, Chhatisgarh and Goa are BJP bastions.
In the long term, BJP will establish itself as the primary party in states like Maharashtra, Bihar, Rajsthan, HP, Uttarakhand and Haryana.

If they can get their acts together, will be sure shot contenders in UP, WB, Karnataka and Seemandhra.

That means around 75% of the industrial output will be streamlined with the policies of the BJP givernment at the center (I am assuming that Modi will be PM till 2023).



and to win next LS WB is the big fish , BJP always gets negligible seats in WB during LS
this LS it got only 2 seats out of 41 a local WB state govt would really help BJP during next LS polls
even 50% would mean a gain of 20 seats for BJP

similarly there some other states like odisha(21) & kerala(20) where BJP should be more aggressive since it has nothing to loose , they will only gain from here . If in the next four years BJP can establish itself strongly in these states then it can help them in getting back to power during next LS .
 
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:lol: So predictable that the media is relating that with the new government and Modi, although neither Indias growth is related to anything that was changed in the last 7 months, nor are we suddenly outperforming the other countries, since Brazil is falling for quiet some time, Russia is highly effected by the Ukraine crisis and sanctions and Chinas growth reduction was predicted years ago and is even visible for some years now.
The PM and the NDA has yet to show actual changes to improve the economy and growth by delivering a proper budget with investments into infrastructure and reforms to make it easier for foreign companies to invest, because this is the time to take advantage of the weakness of other countries and push forward!

View attachment 191619

The above chart shows, that since the global financial crisis in 2008, the FDI into emerging markets rapidly went down, because investors didn't took much risks anymore. Good PR of the PM during foreign visits alone and even the FDI limit increase won't bring them back to India. The foreign and even most of Indian industry is waiting for more credible reforms to really give the economy a push.

View attachment 191618
Again since the global financial crisis in 2008, the export from emerging markets rapidly went down, because the global demand was far lower. That's one reason why Chinas growth got hit so much since then and why it is so difficult to get foreign companies outsource production to India (Make in India). If the PM wants to counter the trend, he needs to do more than good PR for the agenda, to not only make India a production hub, but also to use that to export products.


The NDA was voted into the government with huge trust of the Indian voter to bring credible changes in several fields, including a new push to the economy. If they now sit back and just show to the new GDP rates, that "looks" higher because of a new calculation method, or to the other BRICS countries that doing worse because of their own problems, it would be a huge disappointment. They have the mandate and the chance to actually do big things for India, lets hope that this doesn't go down in the usual party politics in India.


Modi PR actually increase FDI inflows in to India.And passed a lot of ordinance.
This is not some exaggerated data.The idea of base year changing was actually initiated during UPA rule.
How can you show a clear GDP picture with those 2004 base year we had only 2500 companies .Now we have 5 lakhs company.But we should have 9% +GDP data with these data collection .These current 7.5% is just only equal to 5.8% withearly scheme.
Investors will only invest in here only if we give a proof of stern decision making govt in here.Otherwise they wont.

That being said the real affect of the NDA
gobt only can see after 1 year.

Mate!!! please do not even say Congress, Jayanthi Natrajan revelation on Rahul make me so ashamed and angry that this idiot was playing with billion people hope and dream for politics. Not providing clearance by minister (Vedanta, Posco, Adani,etc) on recommendation of Rahul is just utter nonsense who the hell he think he is.
He must be thrown out of country for betraying India, complete lunatic. BJP need to be in power till 2024 minimum. By then conservatively we should be 5 trillion economy if MODI is given free hand. I think as citizen of this country it is becoming real important we made sure BJP wins Bihar, Bengal and UP in next 2 year. Especially Mamta DIDI need to go fromWB, i don't know why people voted for her:hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:

AAP need to be contained in Delhi only, as their Dharna and Free sops style politics can do maximum damages as no work will happen, as some one will raise corruption issue and Sarkari BABU official will not take any decision thinking to get caught in the tangle of AAP .:o::o:


Congress is out.But in the name of development we cant destroy our environment by selling them in to some foreign companies.We should increase our capabilities within our nation.
'Make in India' is a good initiative.Lets see its progress.
 
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