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India has inked pacts with Russia to acquire advanced air defence missile systems, stealth frigates as well as jointly produce light-utility helicopters

The three projects are collectively worth an estimated $10.5 billion (over Rs 72,000 crore)

NEW DELHI: Correcting the pronounced tilt towards the US in defence deals over the last decade, India on Saturday inked pacts with Russia to acquire advanced air defence missile systems, stealth frigates as well as jointly produce light-utility helicopters. The three projects are collectively worth an estimated $10.5 billion (over Rs 72,000 crore).

The two pacts or inter-governmental agreements (IGAs) for five new-generation Russian S-400 Triumf missile systems and four upgraded Teg or Grigorivich-class frigates, apart from the joint venture to produce 200 Kamov-226T light utility helicopters, are not actual contracts as yet. That will take some time, with the nitty-gritties and final costs to be sealed through further negotiations in the days ahead.

But Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Russian President Vladimir Putin, in whose presence the pacts were inked in Goa, were all gung-ho about the reinforcement of the bilateral strategic partnership "to lay deeper defence ties" in the years ahead. "Agreements on manufacturing Kamov-226T helicopters; constructions of frigates; and acquisition and building of other defence platforms are in synergy with India's technology and security priorities," said Modi.

In terms of sheer strategic value, India's acquisition of the five S-400 systems for over $5.5 billion is clearly going to be game-changer. TOI was the first to report in October 2015 about India's decision to go in for the S-400 systems, which basically have three kinds of missiles that can fly at supersonic and hypersonic speeds to intercept all kinds of targets at ranges from 120 to 400-km.

Defence sources said the S-400 systems, with three meant for the western front with Pakistan and the other two for the eastern one with China, can shoot down Chinese or Pakistani fighters while they are flying in their own airspaces.

India will be the second customer for the S-400 (called SA-21 Growler by NATO), with China slated to get the anti-aircraft\anti-missile systems under a $3 billion deal with Russia in 2014. A defence source said, "Most of the negotiations for our S-400 systems are over ... the contract should be inked among the first to be inked."

The $4 billion pact for the four 4,000-tonne guided-missile stealth frigates also has some strategic content to it though it is not acknowledged in public. India's quest to lease a second nuclear-powered submarine (the first INS Chakra came in 2012) for around $1.5 billion from Russia has been linked by Moscow to New Delhi's agreement to acquire the frigates lying half-constructed at the Yantar Shipyard due to a cash-crunch.



India will also have to acquire Zorya gas-turbine engines for the frigates from Ukraine, which is bitterly opposed to Russia as of now. "While two of the frigates will come from Russia, with a faster delivery time, the other two will be built here. It will take time for the contract with the selected Indian shipyard to be finalized," said a source.


As for the Kamov-226T choppers, the IGA for it was inked during Modi's visit to Moscow in December last year. It's only now the joint venture for the project, with the memorandum of association, share-holders agreement and the like, has been inked between defence PSU Hindustan Aeronautics (with majority 50.5% stake) and Russian Rostec State Corporation.

But the different pacts do show that Russia is reasserting its numero uno status in the Indian defence market. It was after the 1999 Kargil conflict that India began to increasingly turn to countries like US, Israel, France and UK so as to not put all its eggs in the Russian basket. As the strategic clinch with the US got tighter, Washington alone bagged Indian defence deals worth $15 billion since 2007.

Though India still remains slightly unhappy with Russia for not sticking to delivery schedules, jacking up costs mid-way, putting hurdles in technology transfer and unreliable spares support, New Delhi knows only Moscow will help it with "strategic projects" like nuclear-powered submarines or the S-400 systems.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...worth-Rs-72000-crore/articleshow/54871603.cms
 
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Russia remains india's top supplier of arms

the USA cannot fill the place of Russia in the indo army

The USA was the main supplier of arms to Pakistan during wars with india

Indians will never ever forget bout that​
 
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Russia remains india's top supplier of arms

the USA cannot fill the place of Russia in the indo army

The USA was the main supplier of arms to Pakistan during wars with india

Indians will never ever forget bout that​
past is past

If USA offers F-16s with serious technology transfer India is not saying NO
 
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past is past

If USA offers F-16s with serious technology transfer India is not saying NO
Around a year back f16 was a mediocre fighter which hardly compares with upgraded MIGs as per most of the Indian members. Suddenly people like @GURU DUTT started telling 16 is the best gen4fighter out there.

Personally I still don't understand why IAF is willing to induct f16 which failed miserably by the evaluation conducted by IAF.
 
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Around a year back f16 was a mediocre fighter which hardly compares with upgraded MIGs as per most of the Indian members. Suddenly people like @GURU DUTT started telling 16 is the best gen4fighter out there.

Personally I still don't understand why IAF is willing to induct f16 which failed miserably by the evaluation conducted by IAF.

it is not the greatest fighter aircraft. it is reliable. if you can upgrade/customize avionics and get it at a discounted price it is worth.

The MiG company is dying slowly. they made iconic jets in the past.
 
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F15 is a beat compares to f16,but we have mki for doing 15's role. And we selected rafale over 16 in mmrca . the present f16 cry and hue is to please uncle Sam by bjp govt. I fear this mediocre fighter may seen in tri color in future if modi and pariker didn't look in to it.

it is not the greatest fighter aircraft. it is reliable. if you can upgrade/customize avionics and get it at a discounted price it is worth.

The MiG company is dying slowly. they made iconic jets in the past.
We selected rafale,let's stick to it. Imaging if 16 inducted,we have to import each and every offensive armament from us. Non of the present iaf operated armaments except derby are compatible with 16.
 
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Around a year back f16 was a mediocre fighter which hardly compares with upgraded MIGs as per most of the Indian members. Suddenly people like @GURU DUTT started telling 16 is the best gen4fighter out there.

Personally I still don't understand why IAF is willing to induct f16 which failed miserably by the evaluation conducted by IAF.
thing is F16 dint fail even then it was sabotage games played by SAAB and some IAF and MOD baboons and one other foriegn supplier deu to some unkoun reasones and F16 Blk60 IN was not good enof but F16 Blk70/72 is on a very dirrent level altogether you can in lay man terms say

F16 Blk70/72

it has better JHMDS and combined yet minturised and yet highly energy effiecient EW+ECM+Jammaer+RWR+LWR+Avionics suites which fits easyily in new internal design

it has the 3rd gen GaN based AESA radar and internal IRST and LDP/latirn (we can also use LITENING G5) and can easyly be estimated to be at least more than 4X time potent than Blk52

it has the best and most leathel weapons pakage yet more cost effective than what we get from france almost half the price but aspotent & leathel as french one if not more


and the best part is F16 is most used fighter which carries 8.5 tonnes(same as MKI ) of weapons load and can have 550+km combat radius at 6-8km altitude(which will increase as the altitude increases) on its internal and CFT fuel only(good for western theater )and uses less than half the fuel required by MKI in simmilar range and payload and less than half the maintainence time required on F16

and all this with all assebelly line toolins , rigs and aids , overhaul systems , manufacturing and mantinence rigs and training package at an over all cost of 150 millon per pop which is still 10% lower than grippen E and less than 30% we are paying for rafale but as good as rafale
 
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F15 is a beat compares to f16,but we have mki for doing 15's role. And we selected rafale over 16 in mmrca . the present f16 cry and hue is to please uncle Sam by bjp govt. I fear this mediocre fighter may seen in tri color in future if modi and pariker didn't look in to it.


We selected rafale,let's stick to it. Imaging if 16 inducted,we have to import each and every offensive armament from us. Non of the present iaf operated armaments except derby are compatible with 16.

it boils down to money. if you can get advanced model f-16 for 70-80 million it would be a steal
 
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thing is F16 dint fail even then it was sabotage games played by SAAB and some IAF and MOD baboons and one other foriegn supplier deu to some unkoun reasones and F16 Blk60 IN was not good enof but F16 Blk70/72 is on a very dirrent level altogether you can in lay man terms say

F16 Blk70/72

it has better JHMDS and combined yet minturised and yet highly energy effiecient EW+ECM+Jammaer+RWR+LWR+Avionics suites which fits easyily in new internal design

it has the 3rd gen GaN based AESA radar and internal IRST and LDP/latirn (we can also use LITENING G5) a comboat least more than 4X time potent than Blk52

it has the best and most leathel weapons pakage yet more cost effective than what we get from france almost half the price but aspotent & leathel as french one if not more


and the best part is F16 is most used fighter which carries 8.5 tonnes(same as MKI ) of weapons load and can have 550+km combat radius at 6-8km altitude(which will increase as the altitude increases) on its internal and CFT fuel only(good for western theater )and uses less than half the fuel required by MKI in simmilar range and payload and less than half the maintainence time required on F16

and all this with all assebelly line toolins , rigs and aids , overhaul systems , manufacturing and mantinence rigs and training package at an over all cost of 150 millon per pop which is still 10% lower than grippen E and less than 30% we are paying for rafale but as good as rafale
1)any fighter is useless until and unless its having credible air to air missile. I want to tell one thing that each and every missiles we have to import from US for f16 except Derby(I doubt full about that too,if 16 comes with APG series radar instead of 2052 radar). None of the present armaments is not compatible with it. So added cost
2)tell me which is better,rafale or 40 year old platform like 16
3) now again whatvextra advantage will 16 brings to India .
 
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