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LAHORE -
Wednesday, 27 Jun 2012
India has refused to provide Pakistan data about the water level in its dams and expected rains ahead of the crucial monsoon season.
According to a report, this spells grave danger for Pakistan in the wake of approaching monsoon season and resultant floods.
Under the circumstances, it would become even more difficult for the Pakistani authorities to take flood-management measures. In this connection, the responsibilities of Pakistan Met Office have increased manifold. Officials of the Water and Power Department said the Pakistani High Commission sought from India forecast data about water flow from dams built on Ravi, Sutlej and Bias, but India declined this request. Sources said the National Disaster Management Authority held an emergency meeting in this regard and expressed concern over the development. After India’s refusal, Pakistan will be totally depending on its radars installed at Sialkot, Lahore and Mangla for rain and flood assessment in order to make preparations for flood mitigations.
On the other hand, a planned meeting between Indian and Pakistani foreign ministers next month was postponed, New Delhi said on Tuesday, citing a clash of dates with India’s presidential election. The postponement comes at a time of political upheaval in Pakistan, but Indian Foreign Ministry spokesman Syed Akbaruddin stressed that the rescheduling was not a sign of any new tensions between the South Asian rivals.
Indian Foreign Minister SM Krishna had been scheduled to travel to Islamabad on July 18 to hold talks with his Pakistani counterpart Hina Rabbani Khar. Akbaruddin said India’s presidential election on July 19 had forced the change of dates.
“Obviously we need to reschedule,” Akbaruddin said, pointing out that Krishna was a member of the presidential electoral college which comprises MPs from both houses of parliament and state legislatures. “But please don’t think that a scheduling issue is reflective of substantive problems. There are none,” he told reporters.
India and Pakistan have fought three wars since independence in 1947, two of them over the Himalayan region of Kashmir, which is divided by a heavily militarised Line of Control and which both countries claim in full. With the monsoon session of India’s parliament due to open on July 22, Akbaruddin said the postponed Krishna-Khar talks would most likely be held “in August at the earliest”. He also acknowledged that political events in Pakistan, where the judiciary ousted the prime minister a week ago, would have to be taken into consideration. “Since the original date was fixed, there have been changes we are all aware of in Pakistan and these of course will be factored in,” he said.
The Indo-Pak dialogue, which was stalled following the Mumbai terror attacks in November 2008, resumed last year with both sides holding a series of meetings on the eight components under the ‘Composite Dialogue’ format, including terrorism, Kashmir, Siachen, Sir Creek and trade. The two countries have already had four segments including terrorism, trade and water in the past few months with two more -on Siachen and Sir Creek- slated for this month as part of the second round of talks. However, the two countries’ foreign secretaries will be meeting for talks next month on July 4 and 5. According to the Indian External Affairs Minister SM Krishna, talks which were scheduled to be held in Islamabad would now be held in New Delhi.
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/201...efuses-to-provide-dam-water-data-to-pakistan/
 
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Was this before or after the Pakistani AT court threw out the Mumbai 26/11 commission report?
 
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i hope my fellow Indian members can shed some light on why this decesion was made
technically if the data was provided, it would have done ABSOLUTELY NO harm to India but PAKISTAN would have benifited from it.

in this situation, the decision only reflects an intention to harm Pakistan. there are people claiming that Pakistan is doing nothing to implement India's Most favored nation status and this was only an announcement but India on other hand gave Pakistan MFN status 16 years ago.

If this is what you do to your friends, we are better off at war!

regards!

Was this before or after the Pakistani AT court threw out the Mumbai 26/11 commission report?

i guess well before!!
Wednesday, 27 Jun 2012 6:26 am
India refuses to provide dam water data to Pakistan | Pakistan Today | Latest news | Breaking news | Pakistan News | World news | Business | Sport and Multimedia
 
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LAHORE -
Wednesday, 27 Jun 2012
India has refused to provide Pakistan data about the water level in its dams and expected rains ahead of the crucial monsoon season.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...de-dam-water-data-pakistan.html#ixzz20t1Fz8ib

Why should India provide Pakistan data about the water level in its dams? Pakistan should be concerned about the water that's flowing into Pakistani side and there are ways to measure it..

Does India have the data on expected rains ahead of the crucial monsoon season? Think about it, if there is a mistake in the data then all the blame of any floods in coming years will come towards India..
 
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i hope my fellow Indian members can shed some light on why this decesion was made
technically if the data was provided, it would have done ABSOLUTELY NO harm to India but PAKISTAN would have benifited from it.

in this situation, the decision only reflects an intention to harm Pakistan. there are people claiming that Pakistan is doing nothing to implement India's Most favored nation status and this was only an announcement but India on other hand gave Pakistan MFN status 16 years ago.

If this is what you do to your friends, we are better off at war!

regards!



i guess well before!!
Wednesday, 27 Jun 2012 6:26 am
India refuses to provide dam water data to Pakistan | Pakistan Today | Latest news | Breaking news | Pakistan News | World news | Business | Sport and Multimedia

Give and take, its take two to do tango, one instance you didn't provided MFN, nothing move on 26/11 and expect India to do everything .
 
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First try to stop wastage of water of Indus river.
and this is relevant to???
with monsoon approaching and experts pointing toward heavy record breaking rainfall, we request for water data!! not water!
where do the wastage come in from??

Why should India provide Pakistan data about the water level in its dams? Pakistan should be concerned about the water that's flowing into Pakistani side and there are ways to measure it..

Does India have the data on expected rains ahead of the crucial monsoon season? Think about it, if there is a mistake in the data then all the blame of any floods in coming years will come towards India..

Ethically!! Morally!! we are neighbors with both sides claiming that they are trying to mend ties!!

by the way, your your information, it was not about PREDICTING RAINFALL!!
all that was requested was the storage and inflows in Indian reservoirs so Pakistan, being down stream, prepare in advance and prepare there reservoirs accordingly to hold on in monsoon.
If Pakistan know the water amount stored in Indian dams and there capacity, they will get to know what will be released in monsoon flood season and thus they can discharge water in our dams now to make space for water that will be discharged in monsoon by India!
India is not to be blamed if there are heavy rain and flood in Pakistan. but don't you think it is there fault if they do not let you know they plan to open all flood gates in monsoon and we keep our dams full to meet next years requirement and all of a sudden this huge water out burst cause floods???

we all know, this is is not something that Pakistan wont be able to find out by there own, this is not something really confidential but going through proper channel is the right approach and just a little bit of positive attitude from Indian side would have helped improve our relations!

Give and take, its take two to do tango, one instance you didn't provided MFN, nothing move on 26/11 and expect India to do everything .
did you provided MFN?? the above news do not reflect these sentiments, does it??
 
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The difference is that MFN or 26/11 are not that big in the grand scheme of things, worse case scenario we have bad relations that we already has for the last 60 years.

When dealing with water however is a different story. The Indus is Pakistan's only life line. You threaten that, then you threaten the lives of 180 million peoples. And worse case scenario for that is nuclear war on both sides.
 
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@ asalam 123 You are making so much hue and cry about us not sharing the data about water, what about you not sharing the data about terrorist inPakistan. Don't forget you are not the only people who bleed if stabbed, we are also people.
 
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The difference is that MFN or 26/11 are not that big in the grand scheme of things, worse case scenario we have bad relations that we already has for the last 60 years.

When dealing with water however is a different story. The Indus is Pakistan's only life line. You threaten that, then you threaten the lives of 180 million peoples. And worse case scenario for that is nuclear war on both sides.

Bro, you can only make noise about the design of dams in Kashmir and only get it modified slightly. You won't collaborate, so do we.
 
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The difference is that MFN or 26/11 are not that big in the grand scheme of things, worse case scenario we have bad relations that we already has for the last 60 years.

When dealing with water however is a different story. The Indus is Pakistan's only life line. You threaten that, then you threaten the lives of 180 million peoples. And worse case scenario for that is nuclear war on both sides.

Ha Ha!...Nuclear Threat.....The best case scenario is save water..dont waste it.
 
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Bro, you can only make noise about the design of dams in Kashmir and only get it modified slightly. You won't collaborate, so do we.

this is not about design of DAM and india blocking water.
the dam your are building, the water you are storing, though illegal, but still makes sense for you to do as it is something that is beneficial for you. But, this, not sharing information is a totally different story. It would have done NO HARM to india and would have helped Pakistan.
so in other words, India is doing this not because it is good for India but because it is bad for Pakistan.
this is the point, and if this is the reality, then why all the cry of TRYING TO MEND TIES with neighbors, ALWAYS GOING AN EXTRA MILE to befriend with Pakistan??

why such Hypocrisy?
This is the question!
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Ha Ha!...Nuclear Threat.....The best case scenario is save water..dont waste it.
oo baba gee... read the news!! it is not about India storing Pakistan water, not about violation of Indus Water Treaty, it is not that why are you storing our water!! if it was, then you reply of DONT WASTE makes sense,, this is about NOT SHARING information to prevent floods!! what the hell saving and not wasting water have to do with this?
 
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Bro, you can only make noise about the design of dams in Kashmir and only get it modified slightly. You won't collaborate, so do we.

Collaborate on what?
We took the issue to the world bank and got the dam modified to meet the treaty outline. End of story, Pakistan did not raise the stakes.
The point I was making is that if the Internet Hindus wet dreams (no pun intended) were to come true and India did divert the river, then that could lead to a bad result for both India and Pakistan.

That is why the water issue must not be confused with any of the other, less demanding, issues.
 
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