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India lobbying hard to give a tactical advantage to the Taliban.

So, you believe, US stop to supply the engine to turkey (to NATO country) , because of Indian lobby. What a pathetic argument is that.
it seems you are rather week in reading English , i would suggest you read my comment again & if still you cannot understand what is written then let me know i will explain in simple kids English .... OK ?
 
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it seems you are rather week in reading English , i would suggest you read my comment again & if still you cannot understand what is written then let me know i will explain in simple kids English .... OK ?

The one reason could be, Pakistan allowing china to open each an every part of the helis, so that they reverse engineer it? You also made babur that way I suppose.
 
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I don't get it?

Why do you need helicopter gunships and F16's to take out a rag tag militia group armed with archaic weapons and vastly outnumbered by a few hundred taliban versus a million strong pakistani security force inside it's own land?.


As for the topic- Osama, abottabad and Dr. Shakil afridi did it...not India.
 
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it seems you are rather week in reading English , i would suggest you read my comment again & if still you cannot understand what is written then let me know i will explain in simple kids English .... OK ?

No, I am asking you. Side, the 5000 post scenario. But you are Elite, a PDF think tank, you must be intelligent. 5000 post count members are idiots.

I want to know your POV?
 
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India lobbied hard against the Block52+ sale but it didn't work. There were Indians who staged protests in the US.
 
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The one reason could be, Pakistan allowing china to open each an every part of the helis, so that they reverse engineer it? You also made babur that way I suppose.
Again an example of Indian Ignorance .. thinking every thing Pakistan makes is just a copy , and we have no talent whatsoever, you media has brainwashed you good .
 
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Again an example of Indian Ignorance .. thinking every thing Pakistan makes is just a copy , and we have no talent whatsoever, you media has brainwashed you good .
I have seen the missile in pictures and compared it with TH.
 
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Again an example of Indian Ignorance .. thinking every thing Pakistan makes is just a copy , and we have no talent whatsoever, you media has brainwashed you good .

Ever you think beyond the indian ignorance? Or, in every post you try to figure out about Indian ignorance.
 
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If so then you should have allowed them to drone their own creation ..

Sovereignty is something which cannot be compromised at any cost. I hope you understand. But unfortunately our corrupt politicians have done that which needs to be stopped now.
 
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Wow .. never thought i would say this , but Indian reaction that we cannot afford our essential defense equipment is making me sad at their ignorance , new members i can understand as they have little to no knowledge about Pakistan, but when members with more then 5K posts say something like this , it is simply sad , how ignorant of reality you Indians are ..... WOW
Well is it not a reality? Your defence budget is only around $5/6 BN, this is not very much and the Apaches are incredibly expensive pieces of kit. If you could meet your defence needs then you wouldn't be the beneficiaries of military aid and "soft loans" from larger nations would you?
 
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No, I am asking you. Side, the 5000 post scenario. But you are Elite, a PDF think tank, you must be intelligent. 5000 post count members are idiots.

I want to know your POV?
You want to know why US isn't giving them to Pakistan ?

No it is not because of China ( or the threat of reverse engineering , Chinese are far advances then you think )
the reasons are two fold
1. to keep Pakistan in check & dependent on US armory , so it would be hard for us to oppose us (hardly worked in past)
2. Indian pressure (whether you like ti not , India always lobbies against sale of any modern equipment to Pakistan ), Indian market is big & India is current the new tool for US to counter China , so they are careful to not make Indians angry .

The Cost of Selling to Pakistan outweighs the Benefits , Simple as that .
 
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Chinese Z-10 Thunderbolt is maturing fast but not quite there yet. The point is that during the strategic dialouge, we need to get a black and white answer from the US. We need copters more than anything else to mow down these fuckers at night....we will get it from where ever possible.
 
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Well is it not a reality? Your defence budget is only around $5/6 BN, this is not very much and the Apaches are incredibly expensive pieces of kit. If you could meet your defence needs then you wouldn't be the beneficiaries of military aid and "soft loans" from larger nations would you?
Not really , we always have reserves for every order we think we might put in place in the future , if we couldn't afford it we wouldn't have asked to buy them now would we ?

as far as soft loans are concerned , that is irreverent , as it is just a method of finance , one way or another we are going to pay it .
 
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India lobbied hard against the Block52+ sale but it didn't work. There were Indians who staged protests in the US.
So the Indian lobby is able to stop the sale of helicopter gunships and not Blk.52 F-16s? Come on. Which of these presents a greater risk to India's conventional military supremacy? Which of these would India work harder to prevent getting in the Pakistani hands?

This is all getting very silly....
 
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