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India Is Shooting Itself in the Foot in Kashmir
The costs to the country’s image overseas are higher than government boosters want to believe.

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Still under lockdown.Photographer: Tauseef Mustafa/AFP/Getty Images

As each week goes by, India’s crackdown on Kashmir deepens. Not content with cutting phone lines and the internet, detaining top political leaders and imposing a curfew which has now lasted three weeks, Prime Minister Narendra Modi's government has reportedly imprisoned thousands of Kashmiris, including businessmen and students as well as human-rights activists.

This suppression of an ethnic-religious minority has met with mass acclaim in India. One has to go as far back as Serbia under Slobodan Milosevic to recall a similarly ecstatic upsurge of vengeful nationalism.

As the Economist puts it, “India’s press and television channels are jumping up and down and cheering.” Many Indian journalists have joined social media trolls in assaulting Western outlets such as the BBC and the New York Times for reporting Kashmiris’ anger and disaffection.

Near-unanimous backing from India’s media seems to have emboldened Modi’s government. Last weekend, it prevented a delegation of opposition leaders, including Rahul Gandhi, from visiting Kashmir.

Such impunity reveals just how extraordinarily complete Modi’s success as India’s pied-piper is, how irresistible his tunes. He and his followers draw additional encouragement from the fact that most foreign governments are too distracted by domestic challenges to pay attention to events in Kashmir, and that Pakistan’s strident campaign to isolate India diplomatically has failed.

Still, as the situation of Kashmiris deteriorates, India’s well-wishers should ask: Has Modi, while accumulating untrammelled power for himself and fellow Hindu nationalists, irreparably damaged India’s claims to be a rational and stable democracy?

Coverage of Kashmir in the international media has been uniformly critical of the Indian government, partly provoked by its demonstrably false assertions, echoed by India’s media, that things are “normal” in Kashmir. Front-page pictures of heavily armed soldiers on empty Kashmiri streets make clear the region is effectively under military occupation.

Modi’s version -- that he is advancing economic development in Kashmir -- is either not in sight or looks patently deceptive as writers, academics and journalists, often from the Kashmiri diaspora, educate global audiences about their history and fate.

It might be easy to mock these critics as irrelevant and powerless. But they emerge at a crucial time, when even many hardened observers of Indian politics and economy are questioning what kind of leader Modi is.

Outside of India, neither the prime minister’s economic data nor his boasts about destroying terrorist camps deep inside Pakistan has survived close scrutiny. Indeed, the mob lynchings of Muslims under his watch have directed fresh attention to the origins of Modi’s Hindu nationalist organization in the European fascist movements of the 1920s.

In news reports and analyses, India’s prime minister is not uncommonly grouped with such demagogic politicians as Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, Jair Bolsonaro and Rodrigo Duterte. Even Pakistan, long identified internationally as a rogue nation, has felt emboldened enough to denounce Modi’s government as “racist” and “fascist.”

Modi himself has suffered new damage to a reputation that he had diligently washed free of the taint of suspected complicity in a 2002 anti-Muslim pogrom. Ascending to power in 2014, he managed to persuade many in the West that he was focused on making India's economy grow and creating jobs rather than stoking Hindu majoritarianism. Modi’s image as an economic modernizer suffered greatly from his decision to withdraw most currency notes from circulation in 2016. Post-Kashmir, it has become even harder to maintain.

Amid bleak news about the economy, overseas investors were pulling funds out of India before Modi launched his crackdown in Kashmir. The bigotry on display in India's public sphere might lead more of them to wonder if they should still take for granted the country's social cohesion, and the political and economic rationality of its leaders.

In the West, India long ago lost the prestige it had enjoyed through its association with world-historical figures such as Mahatma Gandhi, and its moral leadership of the non-western world in the decades following independence in 1947. The more recent narrative about India -- that it is a distinguished multicultural democracy and economic powerhouse -- is now also up for debate. This squandering of soft power cannot but have deep consequences for an aspiring global force that is very far from matching China’s hard power.

In many ways, the repression of Kashmiris is a more egregious act of self-harm than demonetization. The longer it goes on, the greater the suspicion will grow that, having failed in his central tasks, India’s pied-piper is running blind, in danger of leading his nation to a dead-end.


https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...hmir-crackdown-is-damaging-its-image-overseas
 
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This squandering of soft power cannot but have deep consequences for an aspiring global force that is very far from matching China’s hard power.

This is also a very good reminder of the reality. The Indians are far from their goals of becoming a global power and have already started undoing their progress.

As someone said, these acts will ensure that Indias dream of a permanent member - and along with this many other things that come with being taken as a responsible member of the international community.

China has carried itself in a way that it wasn't taken as a threat by even the US - even as it caught up with the US and became a contender. The EU still doesn't take China as a serious enough threat - even though China is both economically and militarily xapable of challenging the west - because the Chinese have displayed they are very calculated and restrained in their actions.

The Chinese understand the one thing the Indians do not - the world order does not like anyone who rocks the boat too much. The actions of India in Kashmir show that they can needlessly rock the boat and risk nuclear confrontation simply to divert attention from domestic issues.

A market, yes - but a responsible global player, no.
 
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This is also a very good reminder of the reality. The Indians are far from their goals of becoming a global power and have already started undoing their progress.

As someone said, these acts will ensure that Indias dream of a permanent member - and along with this many other things that come with being taken as a responsible member of the international community.

China has carried itself in a way that it wasn't taken as a threat by even the US - even as it caught up with the US and became a contender. The EU still doesn't take China as a serious enough threat - even though China is both economically and militarily xapable of challenging the west - because the Chinese have displayed they are very calculated and restrained in their actions.

The Chinese understand the one thing the Indians do not - the world order does not like anyone who rocks the boat too much. The actions of India in Kashmir show that they can needlessly rock the boat and risk nuclear confrontation simply to divert attention from domestic issues.

A market, yes - but a responsible global player, no.
Seriously, does your entire world revolve around Kashmir and Pakistan. World has moved on as they understood that Kashmir is better off with India than Pakistan. India gives about $10 billion dollars to Kashmir as a budgetary support. Of the 88000 crore INR budget outlay of J&K about 70000 crore INR is contributed by the center. For reference Azad Kashmir has only about 10000 crore PKR budget.

G7 made a comment supporting autonomy in Hongkong and not a utterance about Kashmir.
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Seriously, does your entire world revolve around Kashmir and Pakistan. World has moved on as they understood that Kashmir is better off with India than Pakistan. India gives about $10 billion dollars to Kashmir as a budgetary support. Of the 88000 crore INR budget outlay of J&K about 70000 crore INR is contributed by the center. For reference Azad Kashmir has only about 10000 crore PKR budget.

G7 made a comment supporting autonomy in Hongkong and not a utterance about Kashmir.

I need a dancing monkey. How much are you going for?

Seems to me that for you, everything has a monetary value, including freedom.
 
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Seriously, does your entire world revolve around Kashmir and Pakistan. World has moved on as they understood that Kashmir is better off with India than Pakistan. India gives about $10 billion dollars to Kashmir as a budgetary support. Of the 88000 crore INR budget outlay of J&K about 70000 crore INR is contributed by the center. For reference Azad Kashmir has only about 10000 crore PKR budget.

G7 made a comment supporting autonomy in Hongkong and not a utterance about Kashmir.
budget may very well be going into the upkeep of huge security apparatus in the state.
 
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budget may very well be going into the upkeep of huge security apparatus in the state.
Please look up budget before you make the comment. Every kashmiri on average gets 10×times more central grant than any other Indian. It's a special status state as well, as in any external loan it gets is paid in the ratio 90:10 by center and state respectively. Kashmiris are extremely pampered in our country. It's time we brought them to our level.

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Please look up budget before you make the comment. Every kashmiri on average gets 10×times more central grant than any other Indian. It's a special status state as well, as in any external loan it gets is paid in the ratio 90:10 by center and state respectively. Kashmiris are extremely pampered in our country. It's time we brought them to our level.

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Would you agree that the manner in which your government revoked the special status was downright deceitful, not just to Pakistan but also to the Kashmiris and the world, and undemocratic?

Secondly, the current human rights abuses as being reported by the international media highlights not a democratic and secular India but a reckless security state which is trampling on the rights of the very people which it claims as its citizens, namely the Kashmiris. Do you believe that is good for your country ?
 
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Would you agree that the manner in which your government revoked the special status was downright deceitful, not just to Pakistan but also to the Kashmiris and the world, and undemocratic?

Secondly, the current human rights abuses as being reported by the international media highlights not a democratic and secular India but a reckless security state which is trampling on the rights of the very people which it claims as its citizens, namely the Kashmiris. Do you believe that is good for your country ?

I actually believe this is a better way to deal than pampering them for ever. I regret our security excesses but they are only doing their job for their country. Lets hope there is no further loss of life and people get on with their lives.

Secondly special status i was talking about was economic in nature and is not revoked. They still enjoy 90:10 ratio in externally aided projects. And gets a huge central funding every year to make up for their excess spending.
 
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Seriously, does your entire world revolve around Kashmir and Pakistan. World has moved on as they understood that Kashmir is better off with India than Pakistan. India gives about $10 billion dollars to Kashmir as a budgetary support. Of the 88000 crore INR budget outlay of J&K about 70000 crore INR is contributed by the center. For reference Azad Kashmir has only about 10000 crore PKR budget.

G7 made a comment supporting autonomy in Hongkong and not a utterance about Kashmir.
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Who is going to believe this nonsense? RSS cadres are the only one who believe this nonsense. Modi is the master of manipulating and making up numbers . The entire Indian economy of teetering on the verge of recession and despite Modi’s magic growth number manipulation tricks it grew at 5.5 percent. Kashmir is well off than most India anyways and becoming economic growth to Kashmir bringing hordes of ugly, smelly , cow piss drinking RSS men to rape and pillage this beautiful pure land.

Seriously, does your entire world revolve around Kashmir and Pakistan. World has moved on as they understood that Kashmir is better off with India than Pakistan. India gives about $10 billion dollars to Kashmir as a budgetary support. Of the 88000 crore INR budget outlay of J&K about 70000 crore INR is contributed by the center. For reference Azad Kashmir has only about 10000 crore PKR budget.

G7 made a comment supporting autonomy in Hongkong and not a utterance about Kashmir.
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Bull shit. All these budget allocations are used and diverted for security apparatus . Infrastructure goes to the development of military bases and salary etc to maintain 1.5 million rapists army people in the pay toll.

Pakistan Kashmir is heaven compared to Indian occupation .

India Is Shooting Itself in the Foot in Kashmir
The costs to the country’s image overseas are higher than government boosters want to believe.

1000x-1.jpg

Still under lockdown.Photographer: Tauseef Mustafa/AFP/Getty Images

As each week goes by, India’s crackdown on Kashmir deepens. Not content with cutting phone lines and the internet, detaining top political leaders and imposing a curfew which has now lasted three weeks, Prime Minister Narendra Modi's government has reportedly imprisoned thousands of Kashmiris, including businessmen and students as well as human-rights activists.

This suppression of an ethnic-religious minority has met with mass acclaim in India. One has to go as far back as Serbia under Slobodan Milosevic to recall a similarly ecstatic upsurge of vengeful nationalism.

As the Economist puts it, “India’s press and television channels are jumping up and down and cheering.” Many Indian journalists have joined social media trolls in assaulting Western outlets such as the BBC and the New York Times for reporting Kashmiris’ anger and disaffection.

Near-unanimous backing from India’s media seems to have emboldened Modi’s government. Last weekend, it prevented a delegation of opposition leaders, including Rahul Gandhi, from visiting Kashmir.

Such impunity reveals just how extraordinarily complete Modi’s success as India’s pied-piper is, how irresistible his tunes. He and his followers draw additional encouragement from the fact that most foreign governments are too distracted by domestic challenges to pay attention to events in Kashmir, and that Pakistan’s strident campaign to isolate India diplomatically has failed.

Still, as the situation of Kashmiris deteriorates, India’s well-wishers should ask: Has Modi, while accumulating untrammelled power for himself and fellow Hindu nationalists, irreparably damaged India’s claims to be a rational and stable democracy?

Coverage of Kashmir in the international media has been uniformly critical of the Indian government, partly provoked by its demonstrably false assertions, echoed by India’s media, that things are “normal” in Kashmir. Front-page pictures of heavily armed soldiers on empty Kashmiri streets make clear the region is effectively under military occupation.

Modi’s version -- that he is advancing economic development in Kashmir -- is either not in sight or looks patently deceptive as writers, academics and journalists, often from the Kashmiri diaspora, educate global audiences about their history and fate.

It might be easy to mock these critics as irrelevant and powerless. But they emerge at a crucial time, when even many hardened observers of Indian politics and economy are questioning what kind of leader Modi is.

Outside of India, neither the prime minister’s economic data nor his boasts about destroying terrorist camps deep inside Pakistan has survived close scrutiny. Indeed, the mob lynchings of Muslims under his watch have directed fresh attention to the origins of Modi’s Hindu nationalist organization in the European fascist movements of the 1920s.

In news reports and analyses, India’s prime minister is not uncommonly grouped with such demagogic politicians as Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, Jair Bolsonaro and Rodrigo Duterte. Even Pakistan, long identified internationally as a rogue nation, has felt emboldened enough to denounce Modi’s government as “racist” and “fascist.”

Modi himself has suffered new damage to a reputation that he had diligently washed free of the taint of suspected complicity in a 2002 anti-Muslim pogrom. Ascending to power in 2014, he managed to persuade many in the West that he was focused on making India's economy grow and creating jobs rather than stoking Hindu majoritarianism. Modi’s image as an economic modernizer suffered greatly from his decision to withdraw most currency notes from circulation in 2016. Post-Kashmir, it has become even harder to maintain.

Amid bleak news about the economy, overseas investors were pulling funds out of India before Modi launched his crackdown in Kashmir. The bigotry on display in India's public sphere might lead more of them to wonder if they should still take for granted the country's social cohesion, and the political and economic rationality of its leaders.

In the West, India long ago lost the prestige it had enjoyed through its association with world-historical figures such as Mahatma Gandhi, and its moral leadership of the non-western world in the decades following independence in 1947. The more recent narrative about India -- that it is a distinguished multicultural democracy and economic powerhouse -- is now also up for debate. This squandering of soft power cannot but have deep consequences for an aspiring global force that is very far from matching China’s hard power.

In many ways, the repression of Kashmiris is a more egregious act of self-harm than demonetization. The longer it goes on, the greater the suspicion will grow that, having failed in his central tasks, India’s pied-piper is running blind, in danger of leading his nation to a dead-end.


https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...hmir-crackdown-is-damaging-its-image-overseas



Pakistan failed diplomatically?? The whole world media is spitting on India and their reputation is in tatters....... it’s bad time to be an Indian.
What Pakistan achieved is for the first time exposing and shaming India on the scale never seen in their history.

When Modi cries out to Trump that IK language is causing harm you know his smelly armpits are on fire.

With our limited capability we have achieved tremendous results on diplomatic , media and PR front.
 
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Who is going to believe this nonsense? RSS cadres are the only one who believe this nonsense. Modi is the master of manipulating and making up numbers . The entire Indian economy of teetering on the verge of recession and despite Modi’s magic growth number manipulation tricks it grew at 5.5 percent. Kashmir is well off than most India anyways and becoming economic growth to Kashmir bringing hordes of ugly, smelly , cow piss drinking RSS men to rape and pillage this beautiful pure land.





Bull shit. All these budget allocations are used and diverted for security apparatus . Infrastructure goes to the development of military bases and salary etc to maintain 1.5 million rapists army people in the pay toll.

Pakistan Kashmir is heaven compared to Indian occupation .





Pakistan failed diplomatically?? The whole world media is spitting on India and their reputation is in tatters....... it’s bad time to be an Indian.
What Pakistan achieved is for the first time exposing and shaming India on the scale never seen in their history.

When Modi cries out to Trump that IK language is causing harm you know his smelly armpits are on fire.

With our limited capability we have achieved tremendous results on diplomatic , media and PR front.
So much rhetoric with little substance in your argument. So no point discussing with your likes.
 
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So much rhetoric with little substance in your argument. So no point discussing with your likes.


The fact that you responded to my post shows you have nothing to counter and just farting out of your mouth... MODi shtyle

So much rhetoric with little substance in your argument. So no point discussing with your likes.


One thing Indians are good in creating is graphs and numbers ..... they can make up anything anytime anyplace with out using facts ...


 
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