India has tech for nuclear warships

[kallu_be]

Technological development is necessary, but less should be spent on military and more to improve the quality of average citizen. When 40% of Indians earn $1 or less, I cannot really praise when that country wastes money on nuclear armaments. It does not bring prestige to India. In Bengali we say Gariber Ghora Rog or a poor man's indulgence in horse racing.

I think the latest feat by India will start a dangerous arms race in the Sub-continent.

I don't agree with your statement, everything has to go hand in hand. Developing a device for cheaper electricity will bring change in more people than just spending the money on the poor. Even your Bengali statement also make no sense (might be the psyche of bengali), there are many rag to riches stories which will contradict that. It's all about the attitude, if a poor man has a attitude that "i will ride the horse at any cost" he can achieve it.

 

[glomex]

India cannot afford Nuclear Power (Electricity) in the scale which is shown by Media Reports.

Nuclear Power in India : WNA

India to build four more nuclear power reactors- Power-Energy-News By Industry-News-The Economic Times

 

[holysaturn]

Technological development is necessary, but less should be spent on military and more to improve the quality of average citizen. When 40% of Indians earn $1 or less, I cannot really praise when that country wastes money on nuclear armaments. It does not bring prestige to India. In Bengali we say Gariber Ghora Rog or a poor man's indulgence in horse racing.

I think the latest feat by India will start a dangerous arms race in the Sub-continent.

development comes from security and security comes from strength.it will make us strong at the negotiating table.this is necessary for maritime security as many depend on the indian navy for security.

 

[Righteous_Fire]

^ Well, I would have to say that Indian Military Procurement History for the last 60 and more years has been out of proportions for someone who only want peace BUT

For its size, truthfully speaking India should have 3 Carriers, and that would be something realistic

 

[shravan]

Nuclear Power in India : WNA

India to build four more nuclear power reactors- Power-Energy-News By Industry-News-The Economic Times

How much it would cost per unit ? Can the villagers pay so much for the electricity ? I am not saying India is not building Civilian Nuclear Plants but it will not be in the same scale as shown in the Media Reports.

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[glomex]

How much it would cost per unit ? Can the villagers pay so much for the electricity ? I am not saying India is not building Civilian Nuclear Plants but it will not be in the same scale as shown in the Media Reports.

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Nuclear power to cost Rs 4 a unit, half industry estimates

domain-b.com : At Rs4 per unit, nuclear power to cost half of estimates: report

India: 21 nuclear power projects planned - Adnkronos Security

Will nuclear power benefit the masses?

ECONOMICS OF NUCLEAR POWER IN INDIA


I think I have supplied you enough Information for your research....

 

[shravan]

Nuclear power to cost Rs 4 a unit, half industry estimates

domain-b.com : At Rs4 per unit, nuclear power to cost half of estimates: report

India: 21 nuclear power projects planned - Adnkronos Security

Will nuclear power benefit the masses?

ECONOMICS OF NUCLEAR POWER IN INDIA


I think I have supplied you enough Information for your research....

Good.

Thanks for the info. I have read reports of Coal, Hydro & Natural Gas in India and i still don't think we will be using Nuclear Power Plants in the scale which is being REPORTED.

And from what i read - India has LIMITED uranium resources which are of low grade ore. So that makes me think most of the Fuel which we are going to import will be used for Military.

 

[SinoIndusFriendship]

Good.

Thanks for the info. I have read reports of Coal, Hydro & Natural Gas in India and i still don't think we will be using Nuclear Power Plants in the scale which is being REPORTED.

And from what i read - India has LIMITED uranium resources which are of low grade ore. So that makes me think most of the Fuel which we are going to import will be used for Military.

You seem correct. India has abundant Plutonium, not uranium. Also those reported numbers are inflated for mass consumption. India would be better off developing her own Plutonium-based Nuclear power stations. That way they would stimulate local economy and be more independent from foreign suppliers!

 

[glomex]

Good.

Thanks for the info. I have read reports of Coal, Hydro & Natural Gas in India and i still don't think we will be using Nuclear Power Plants in the scale which is being REPORTED.

And from what i read - India has LIMITED uranium resources which are of low grade ore. So that makes me think most of the Fuel which we are going to import will be used for Military.

India has an active development programme featuring both fast and thermal breeder reactors.
India’s first 40 MWt Fast Breeder Test Reactor (FBTR) attained criticality on 18 October 1985. Thus, India became the sixth nation to have the technology to build and operate an FBTR after US, UK, France, Japan and the former USSR. India has developed the technology to produce the plutonium rich U-Pu mixed carbide fuel. This can be used in the Fast Breeder Reactor.
At present the scientists of the Indira Gandhi Centre for Atomic Research (IGCAR), one of the nuclear R & D institutions of India, are engaged in the construction of another FBR - the 500 MWe prototype fast breeder reactor - at Kalpakkam, near Chennai.
India has the capability to use thorium cycle based processes to extract nuclear fuel. This is of special significance to the Indian nuclear power generation strategy as India has large reserves of thorium — about 360,000 tonnes — that can fuel nuclear projects for an estimated 2,500 years. The higher construction expense of the Fast Breeder Reactor in comparison with the Pressurised Heavy Water Reactors (PHWR) in use is one of the main reasons why India is looking at the cheaper option - uranium fuel.

Fast breeder reactor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

India's first fast breeder reactor to be ready next year http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14848890



This is an old writeup...but you should read this: http://www.npcil.nic.in/pdf/nu-power-cmd.pdf

 

[SinoIndusFriendship]

India has an active development programme featuring both fast and thermal breeder reactors.
India’s first 40 MWt Fast Breeder Test Reactor (FBTR) attained criticality on 18 October 1985. Thus, India became the sixth nation to have the technology to build and operate an FBTR after US, UK, France, Japan and the former USSR. India has developed the technology to produce the plutonium rich U-Pu mixed carbide fuel. This can be used in the Fast Breeder Reactor.
At present the scientists of the Indira Gandhi Centre for Atomic Research (IGCAR), one of the nuclear R & D institutions of India, are engaged in the construction of another FBR - the 500 MWe prototype fast breeder reactor - at Kalpakkam, near Chennai.
India has the capability to use thorium cycle based processes to extract nuclear fuel. This is of special significance to the Indian nuclear power generation strategy as India has large reserves of thorium — about 360,000 tonnes — that can fuel nuclear projects for an estimated 2,500 years. The higher construction expense of the Fast Breeder Reactor in comparison with the Pressurised Heavy Water Reactors (PHWR) in use is one of the main reasons why India is looking at the cheaper option - uranium fuel.

Fast breeder reactor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

India's first fast breeder reactor to be ready next year India's first fast breeder reactor to be ready next year

This always puzzled me: If India possesses the know-how and has plentiful radioactive plutonium, then why is she so desperate for the TOT and Uranium 1-2-3 deal??? Something doesn't add up.....

 

[glomex]

This always puzzled me: If India possesses the know-how and has plentiful radioactive plutonium, then why is she so desperate for the TOT and Uranium 1-2-3 deal??? Something doesn't add up.....

Cost......Economics......Money....

The higher construction expense of the Fast Breeder Reactor in comparison with the Pressurised Heavy Water Reactors (PHWR) in use is one of the main reasons why India is looking at the cheaper option - uranium fuel.

 

[shravan]

Cost......Economics......Money....

The higher construction expense of the Fast Breeder Reactor in comparison with the Pressurised Heavy Water Reactors (PHWR) in use is one of the main reasons why India is looking at the cheaper option - uranium fuel.

Anti N-deal lobby on overdrive before debate
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He said, "Simply put, India's production of weapons grade plutonium is currently constrained by the requirements of its nuclear power reactors on its limited domestic supply of natural uranium."

Kimball said,"This is why K Subrahmanyam, the former head of the National Security Council Board, wrote, "Given India's uranium ore crunch and the need to build up our minimum credible nuclear deterrent arsenal as fast as possible, it is to India's advantage to categorise as many power reactors as possible as civilian ones to be refueled by imported uranium and conserve our native uranium fuel for weapons grade plutonium production."

He said this is also why an Indian official 'close to the prime minister' had told the BBC on July 26,2005, that "...the truth is we were desperate. We have nuclear fuel to last only till the end of 2006. If this agreement had not come through we might have as well closed down our nuclear reactors and by extension our nuclear program."




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[glomex]

Anti N-deal lobby on overdrive before debate
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He said, "Simply put, India's production of weapons grade plutonium is currently constrained by the requirements of its nuclear power reactors on its limited domestic supply of natural uranium."

Kimball said,"This is why K Subrahmanyam, the former head of the National Security Council Board, wrote, "Given India's uranium ore crunch and the need to build up our minimum credible nuclear deterrent arsenal as fast as possible, it is to India's advantage to categorise as many power reactors as possible as civilian ones to be refueled by imported uranium and conserve our native uranium fuel for weapons grade plutonium production."

He said this is also why an Indian official 'close to the prime minister' had told the BBC on July 26,2005, that "...the truth is we were desperate. We have nuclear fuel to last only till the end of 2006. If this agreement had not come through we might have as well closed down our nuclear reactors and by extension our nuclear program."




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http://www.igcar.ernet.in/press_releases/dc_25_08_08.pdf


Old But useful: Fast-breeder reactors more important for India

India will overcome problems relating to shortage of natural uranium by 2012-2013
http://www.hindu.com/2009/08/03/stories/2009080360191300.htm

 

[shravan]

India will overcome problems relating to shortage of natural uranium by 2012-2013
The Hindu : Front Page : Nuclear power reactors’ capacity factor will go up, says Anil Kakodkar

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Good to know that we will we using the fuel for civilian uses....


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Dr. Kakodkar:If you look at India's track record, it has always behaved in a very responsible fashion.

We have a very very good track record........

 

[SinoIndusFriendship]

Anti N-deal lobby on overdrive before debate
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He said, "Simply put, India's production of weapons grade plutonium is currently constrained by the requirements of its nuclear power reactors on its limited domestic supply of natural uranium."

Kimball said,"This is why K Subrahmanyam, the former head of the National Security Council Board, wrote, "Given India's uranium ore crunch and the need to build up our minimum credible nuclear deterrent arsenal as fast as possible, it is to India's advantage to categorise as many power reactors as possible as civilian ones to be refueled by imported uranium and conserve our native uranium fuel for weapons grade plutonium production."

He said this is also why an Indian official 'close to the prime minister' had told the BBC on July 26,2005, that "...the truth is we were desperate. We have nuclear fuel to last only till the end of 2006. If this agreement had not come through we might have as well closed down our nuclear reactors and by extension our nuclear program."




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Like many of us (Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Sri Lankans and Chinese) have told you guys over and over -- we don't view you Indians as enemies (perhaps a little annoying at times).

It's the "West" that is the common enemy of us all. They fear anyone to improve themselves. I fear you will encounter much trouble in getting the Uranium.

Here's my suggestion, bypass the NSG and directly invest/mine in Khazakastan (Australia is very racist against Indians and won't let you mine their STOLEN land). Cheers my Indian brothers!!!