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India furious at UN for rejecting surgical strike claim in Kashmir
50 MINS AGO BY IHSAN QADIR
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Desperate India is furious at the United Nations for rejecting its black propaganda of surgical strike along the Line of Control in Kashmir.

The UN mission monitoring the ceasefire said it “has not directly observed” any firing along the LoC.

Responding to a question on the “surgical strikes” claim of Indian Army in Kashmir, UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon’s spokesperson Stephane Dujarric said at a daily press briefing that the UN Military Observer Group in India and Pakistan (UNMOGIP) had not “directly observed” any firing.

“They are obviously aware of the reports of these presumed violations and are talking to the relevant concerned authorities,” he said.

Read more: UN mission finds no proof of Indian ‘surgical strike’ claims

But Indian leadership led by hardliner Prime Minister Narendra Modi is still tweaking the script of the loosely choreographed drama in a desperate bid to fix plot holes in the storyline.

Showing anger at the UNMOGIP in extreme frustration, India’s Permanent Representative to the UN Syed Akbaruddin said the facts on the ground do not change whether somebody has “observed” it or not.

“I have nothing to say because what (Dujarric) said was ‘directly observed’. It’s a call that they have to take. I cannot place myself in their boots and directly observe something,” said the Indian envoy, when asked to comment on Dujarric’s remarks.

Akbaruddin said the “facts on the ground do not change whether somebody acknowledges or not. Facts are facts, we presented the facts and that’s where we stand.”

Meanwhile, Indian Home Minister Rajnath Singh after inaugurating a ‘smart toilet’ in New Delhi on Sunday when quizzed by reporters on doubts raised by Pakistan over the operation as India did not release the footage of the operation, said, “Just wait and watch,” Indian Express reported.

Read more: ‘Just wait and watch’, says Indian Home Minister about evidence of surgical strikes

India claimed on September 29 that it conducted surgical strikes inside Kashmir in revenge attack in Srinagar that killed 18 soldiers.

On the other hand, a Japanese magazine issued a report ruling out the possibility of surgical strikes at the LoC, in the presence of Pakistan’s missile system. “Pakistan’s air surveillance is also highly advanced,” it stated.

The report further said that Indian military is not capable of conducting surgical strikes in the first place, for it lacks the defence equipment required in such operations.

Quite contrary to India’s coward attitude , Pakistani military took local and foreign journalists on a rare visit to forward locations along the Line of Control to debunk the myth of Indian surgical strikes.

The Pakistan Army vehemently rejected all the Indian claims of the so-called surgical strikes, saying that no such incident had taken place and the Indian lies had been exposed before the world.

It said anyone who tried any misadventure inside Pakistan will get response beyond his imagination.

“No such incident has taken place nor any such will be allowed to happen in future and if the adversary attempted so, it will be responded to with an ever strongest force,” Director General (DG) Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Lieutenant General Asim Saleem Bajwa said.

Briefing the visiting journalists, representing both foreign and local media, at two different locations along the LoC, Boxor and Hotsping, he said the Indian claims of carrying out surgical strikes across the LoC were baseless, absurd and unfounded, which were meant to not only misguide the Indian people but also the international community.

“No physical violation of the LoC has taken place, nor it will be allowed to happen by our resilient forces,” he reiterated in reply to a question.

“The Pakistan Army is fully prepared to tackle any misadventure and any such attempt will be responded to in a more effective and forceful manner,” he said.

Read more: Denial won’t bring back the dead

General Officer Commanding of Bhimber Sector Major General Chiragh Haider apprised the journalists that no physical violation of the LoC happened on the night between September 28 and September 29 as claimed by the Indian Director General Military Operations.

The journalists were earlier given a full picture about the geographical and physical location at the Boxor Formation by Brigade Commander Brigadier Furqan Moazam. The entire scenario was drawn to make them understand that how the Indian forces had carried out unprovoked firing due to which a Pakistani soldier embraced Shahadat.

At the foothills of Boxor Formation, two villages of about 130,000 inhabitants are situated whose residents have no clue about any intrusion by the Indian troops. They confirmed that only crossfire had taken place on the particular night and nothing else.

The DG ISPR said the visit of media persons was arranged with the purpose that they should independently probe the Indian claim.

The DG ISPR said the ceasefire violation along the LoC was a routine affair and labelling it as a surgical strike was totally baseless and a pack of ‘white lies’. He said in 2003 Pakistan had announced unilateral ceasefire which was later ratified by India. Pakistan, he said, had been exercising maximum restraint by not initiating fire. The Pakistan side, he said, hardly initiated fire while in most of the cases it was the other side which had initiated firing and then it became necessary for Pakistan to silence the guns of the adversary through an effective response.

Lieutenant General Asim Bajwa said same was the case of the night between September 28 and Sept 29 when the Indian side opened fire of small to medium calibre at around 02:00 hours and the same was responded in a befitting manner. The fire from across the LoC continued till 08:00 hours with a matchless response from the Pakistani side and the same morning it was named as a “surgical strike”.

In that specific case, he questioned as to how Indian special forces personnel landed on the Pakistani soil and then left the area without coming into the knowledge of Pakistani troops who were deployed in an alert state.

“If they had sent paratroopers, what was their purpose or aim to be here and how they returned to their country?” he posed another question, referring to the Indian claims.

When asked to comment on the hotline contact between the DGMOs of the two countries, he said they did speak on the issue and the Pakistani DGMO lodged a protest on the incident of unprovoked Indian firing that claimed the lives of two Pakistani soldiers. He had straightaway rejected the claim of Indian DGMO regarding the surgical strike, stating that no such incident had taken place.

The DG ISPR stated that the UNMOGIP with seven posts on the Pakistani side of the LoC had been observing the situation while India had not been offering them access to locations on its side.

Answering a question, he said inadvertent crossing of the LoC was a routine matter and if any such case was found, it would be treated in accordance with the standing order procedures (SOP).

“We are prepared for any eventuality. The other side had been escalating the situation which is being minutely observed by the world forums,” he added.

Pointing out the situation in the Indian Held Kashmir (IHK), he said it was the 84th consecutive day of curfew in the IHK where the people had been demanding their right to franchise in accordance with the UN resolutions.

He said the struggle of the IHK people was completely indigenous. The present situation along the LoC, he added, was an Indian attempt to divert the attention of the world forums from the situation in the IHK, especially at the time of UN General Assembly session.

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/201...r-rejecting-surgical-strike-claim-in-kashmir/

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Loving the indian fristration... come on guys.. Pakistan is not Myanmar or Bangladesh!.. India just achieved humiliation and not any strategic goal.. got their military men killed and captured... thats it!
 
Few questions -
  • How many UN observers stationed in Pakistan?
  • How many of those stationed are deployed on LoC?
  • What is the length of LoC?
Just answer them and you will know why is it perfectly legitimate for observers not to "directly observe" any firing.
 
Few questions -
  • How many UN observers stationed in Pakistan?
  • How many of those stationed are deployed on LoC?
  • What is the length of LoC?
Just answer them and you will know why is it perfectly legitimate for observers not to "directly observe" any firing.

question is if you think you did a successful Strike then why it matters if anyone believes it or not
 
Few questions -
  • How many UN observers stationed in Pakistan?
  • How many of those stationed are deployed on LoC?
  • What is the length of LoC?
Just answer them and you will know why is it perfectly legitimate for observers not to "directly observe" any firing.

Then why is India furious at UN? Indian envoy at UN can state what you have posted ...

Now listen carefully .. UN observers are situated near LoC and are not barred by Pakistan to visit those places where so called surgical strikes happen .. while on Indian side they are not allowed to go beyond New Delhi. Modi can make fool out of his nation and get his army killed in such covert misadventures for few votes but world is not blind.

Have a nice evening!
 
:rofl:

Think about this logically...

Pakistan has 6 AWACs available that can provide 24/7 coverage of all areas bordering India. These can direct 76 F-16 and 90 JF-17 that can engage any air intruders with BVR weapons and bomb the crap out of ground forces. There is no way India can carry out surgical strikes against Pakistan.

Forget about nuclear weapons, Pakistan can hold off Indian conventional military for at least 2 weeks.
 
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question is if you think you did a successful Strike then why it matters if anyone believes it or not

Exactly.

You can see more efforts from your side to prove nothing has happened, Indian side do not even bother to provide any proof and rage you guys which will only escalate the issue.

Did ISPR provided the travel allowance to all those journalist invited on some random part of LoC or they come on their own including food?
 
Exactly.

You can see more efforts from your side to prove nothing has happened, Indian side do not even bother to provide any proof and rage you guys which will only escalate the issue.

Did ISPR provided the travel allowance to all those journalist invited on some random part of LoC or they come on their own including food?
Firstly it was India which organised a debrief for some 25 foreign envoys to prove it'self.
I guess the mere denial by PA wouldn't bring the Indian masses into senses, so unlike India, why not let International observers see the ground reality.
 
India furious at UN for rejecting surgical strike claim in Kashmir
50 MINS AGO BY IHSAN QADIR
rajnath.jpg



Desperate India is furious at the United Nations for rejecting its black propaganda of surgical strike along the Line of Control in Kashmir.

The UN mission monitoring the ceasefire said it “has not directly observed” any firing along the LoC.

Responding to a question on the “surgical strikes” claim of Indian Army in Kashmir, UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon’s spokesperson Stephane Dujarric said at a daily press briefing that the UN Military Observer Group in India and Pakistan (UNMOGIP) had not “directly observed” any firing.

“They are obviously aware of the reports of these presumed violations and are talking to the relevant concerned authorities,” he said.

Read more: UN mission finds no proof of Indian ‘surgical strike’ claims

But Indian leadership led by hardliner Prime Minister Narendra Modi is still tweaking the script of the loosely choreographed drama in a desperate bid to fix plot holes in the storyline.

Showing anger at the UNMOGIP in extreme frustration, India’s Permanent Representative to the UN Syed Akbaruddin said the facts on the ground do not change whether somebody has “observed” it or not.

“I have nothing to say because what (Dujarric) said was ‘directly observed’. It’s a call that they have to take. I cannot place myself in their boots and directly observe something,” said the Indian envoy, when asked to comment on Dujarric’s remarks.

Akbaruddin said the “facts on the ground do not change whether somebody acknowledges or not. Facts are facts, we presented the facts and that’s where we stand.”

Meanwhile, Indian Home Minister Rajnath Singh after inaugurating a ‘smart toilet’ in New Delhi on Sunday when quizzed by reporters on doubts raised by Pakistan over the operation as India did not release the footage of the operation, said, “Just wait and watch,” Indian Express reported.

Read more: ‘Just wait and watch’, says Indian Home Minister about evidence of surgical strikes

India claimed on September 29 that it conducted surgical strikes inside Kashmir in revenge attack in Srinagar that killed 18 soldiers.

On the other hand, a Japanese magazine issued a report ruling out the possibility of surgical strikes at the LoC, in the presence of Pakistan’s missile system. “Pakistan’s air surveillance is also highly advanced,” it stated.

The report further said that Indian military is not capable of conducting surgical strikes in the first place, for it lacks the defence equipment required in such operations.

Quite contrary to India’s coward attitude , Pakistani military took local and foreign journalists on a rare visit to forward locations along the Line of Control to debunk the myth of Indian surgical strikes.

The Pakistan Army vehemently rejected all the Indian claims of the so-called surgical strikes, saying that no such incident had taken place and the Indian lies had been exposed before the world.

It said anyone who tried any misadventure inside Pakistan will get response beyond his imagination.

“No such incident has taken place nor any such will be allowed to happen in future and if the adversary attempted so, it will be responded to with an ever strongest force,” Director General (DG) Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Lieutenant General Asim Saleem Bajwa said.

Briefing the visiting journalists, representing both foreign and local media, at two different locations along the LoC, Boxor and Hotsping, he said the Indian claims of carrying out surgical strikes across the LoC were baseless, absurd and unfounded, which were meant to not only misguide the Indian people but also the international community.

“No physical violation of the LoC has taken place, nor it will be allowed to happen by our resilient forces,” he reiterated in reply to a question.

“The Pakistan Army is fully prepared to tackle any misadventure and any such attempt will be responded to in a more effective and forceful manner,” he said.

Read more: Denial won’t bring back the dead

General Officer Commanding of Bhimber Sector Major General Chiragh Haider apprised the journalists that no physical violation of the LoC happened on the night between September 28 and September 29 as claimed by the Indian Director General Military Operations.

The journalists were earlier given a full picture about the geographical and physical location at the Boxor Formation by Brigade Commander Brigadier Furqan Moazam. The entire scenario was drawn to make them understand that how the Indian forces had carried out unprovoked firing due to which a Pakistani soldier embraced Shahadat.

At the foothills of Boxor Formation, two villages of about 130,000 inhabitants are situated whose residents have no clue about any intrusion by the Indian troops. They confirmed that only crossfire had taken place on the particular night and nothing else.

The DG ISPR said the visit of media persons was arranged with the purpose that they should independently probe the Indian claim.

The DG ISPR said the ceasefire violation along the LoC was a routine affair and labelling it as a surgical strike was totally baseless and a pack of ‘white lies’. He said in 2003 Pakistan had announced unilateral ceasefire which was later ratified by India. Pakistan, he said, had been exercising maximum restraint by not initiating fire. The Pakistan side, he said, hardly initiated fire while in most of the cases it was the other side which had initiated firing and then it became necessary for Pakistan to silence the guns of the adversary through an effective response.

Lieutenant General Asim Bajwa said same was the case of the night between September 28 and Sept 29 when the Indian side opened fire of small to medium calibre at around 02:00 hours and the same was responded in a befitting manner. The fire from across the LoC continued till 08:00 hours with a matchless response from the Pakistani side and the same morning it was named as a “surgical strike”.

In that specific case, he questioned as to how Indian special forces personnel landed on the Pakistani soil and then left the area without coming into the knowledge of Pakistani troops who were deployed in an alert state.

“If they had sent paratroopers, what was their purpose or aim to be here and how they returned to their country?” he posed another question, referring to the Indian claims.

When asked to comment on the hotline contact between the DGMOs of the two countries, he said they did speak on the issue and the Pakistani DGMO lodged a protest on the incident of unprovoked Indian firing that claimed the lives of two Pakistani soldiers. He had straightaway rejected the claim of Indian DGMO regarding the surgical strike, stating that no such incident had taken place.

The DG ISPR stated that the UNMOGIP with seven posts on the Pakistani side of the LoC had been observing the situation while India had not been offering them access to locations on its side.

Answering a question, he said inadvertent crossing of the LoC was a routine matter and if any such case was found, it would be treated in accordance with the standing order procedures (SOP).

“We are prepared for any eventuality. The other side had been escalating the situation which is being minutely observed by the world forums,” he added.

Pointing out the situation in the Indian Held Kashmir (IHK), he said it was the 84th consecutive day of curfew in the IHK where the people had been demanding their right to franchise in accordance with the UN resolutions.

He said the struggle of the IHK people was completely indigenous. The present situation along the LoC, he added, was an Indian attempt to divert the attention of the world forums from the situation in the IHK, especially at the time of UN General Assembly session.

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/201...r-rejecting-surgical-strike-claim-in-kashmir/

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Loving the indian fristration... come on guys.. Pakistan is not Myanmar or Bangladesh!.. India just achieved humiliation and not any strategic goal.. got their military men killed and captured... thats it!



This confirms everything.............:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 

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