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India, Ecuador negotiate the sale of Dhruv

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The biggest customer of the indigenously made Advanced Light Helicopter (ALH) Dhruv outside the Indian armed forces is Ecuador, with which India is negotiating price for further orders after supplying the initial five helicopters, after which there has been no movement especially after one crashed in 2009. India has sold surveillance helicopters to Ecuador, not the weaponised combat ones.

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) is the manufacturer of the helicopters, and after the ALH sold to the Ecuadorian Air Force crashed in October 2009, the process slowed India's plans of exporting these home-made choppers. The order was for seven aircraft for 50 million dollars in 2008, out of which five were delivered. HAL has an office in Ecuador. Inquiries showed that the crash was due to the pilot's error, after which the Bangalore-based Helicopter Academy to Train by Simulation of Flying (HATSOFF) decided to train Ecuadorian Air Force pilots, to prepare them for emergencies.

After Ecuador got its helicopters under the first order in 2008, the price of the helicopter has gone up from $8 million per piece to $12 million per piece. The increased price is because of upgradation. The negotiation is about the pricing.

The Ecuadorian defence attaché in Delhi is in talks with the Ministry of Defence (MoD). The Indian defence attaché in Chile, who also looks after Ecuador is discussing from the Indian side. The earlier Ecuadorian requirement of seven choppers has not yet been fulfilled, and there is a further requirement of more choppers, said a Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) source. Also last year a defence delegation from Ecuador visited India to discuss the matter.

An MEA source told this newspaper, "Indian armed forces' requirements are so huge, which HAL finds difficult to meet. Only after that they'll be in a position to export."

Other countries that have imported these helicopters, though in small numbers, are Israel and Nepal, while Surinam and Turkey have also shown interest.

Another Latin American country which showed interest in the chopper was Chile. But HAL's ALH Dhruv lost the contract to American Bell Helicopter, a Textron Inc. company, to provide 12 helicopters to the Chilean Air Force in 2008, before which Bell had been disqualified by India for a contract to replace its Chetaks and Cheetahs in the Indian Army on technical grounds based on trials in Leh in 2006. An MEA source said that there has been no word from Chile after that.

The Indian Army has three squadrons of the ALH, in Manasbal, Nasik and Bangalore and there is plan of having one operational squadron in high altitude area comprising the weaponised Dhruv.

The French missile-making company MBDA has conducted successful tests of Dhruv's weaponisation by testing its Mistral twin-tube missile in Leh. Four such packs would be mounted on the chopper. The indigenous DRDO too has developed Helina missile for the helicopter, for which launchers have been cleared.

Two TM 333 2B2 engines power the helicopter, but HAL has been trying to fly it with the new, indigenous and more powerful Shakti engine.The operational validation of the ALH had been completed in 2009, with the new Shakti engine.

India, Ecuador negotiate the sale of Dhruv
 
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Dhruv has prooven to be a good Multi role helicopter.

IAF & IA requirments for Dhruv are so high.........after this we can export more of them :D
 
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HAL should dramatically ramp-up prodcition capacity and agressively market the ALH abroad, in terms of "Bang for your buck" no other helo on earth in the ALH's weight class comes close. Customers are getting an advanced helo of Western standards wrt avioncis and safety for not much more than a Russian helo. If HAL invested more in advertisment and awarenss ALH could have a huge export potential for sure.


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For the same reasons the LCH could have excellent export potential-if HAL/MEA get their act together.
 
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Dhruv,Lch,LUH,Lca Tejas Mk2,MRTA,Astra,Akash SAM,Brahmos all of them has huge potential in export market...the only thing they need is right marketing statergy and diplomatic push....People who have doubt on Tejas sales should not forget their are many countries who need replacement for their Mig 21 in near future and for that they have only 4 options Gripen,Golden Eagle,Tejas or Thunder.....

Secondly money earned through their sales will help us in increasing investment in our R&D....
 
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Dhruv,Lch,LUH,Lca Tejas Mk2,MRTA,Astra,Akash SAM,Brahmos all of them has huge potential in export market...the only thing they need is right marketing statergy and diplomatic push....and money earned through their sales will help us in increasing our R&D.....

Not to mention increasing India's clout over freindly nations.

+ I think that potential exports are more than you have said, India is in a terricif situation wherin they can offer top-quality and low costs. We can see this by the fact that Singapore and Indonesia are both seriouslt Interested in TATA's pullers for their militaries as well as a huge other amount of goods on offer.
 
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I think the Government should arrange something like the Foreign Military Sales Route (FMSR) like the US has so that the exports of our products can be expedited for our potential customers.
 
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Proud of this baby. I nurtured her test results at some point while she was growing.
 
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We need to ramp up capacity .... speedier delivery to domestic customers and to export.
 
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Ecuador will probably use this helicopter to crack down on drug smugglers flying over head supporting police ground operations. So this is a cost effective way for them to do this, multi-role helicopter is what they needed. Not sure if this is the best choice for them but that is their decision.
 
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yeah cockpit surely looks great.
only problem with the exports is the present production rate of this helicopters.
with the present rate of production they won't even be able to meet all the requirements of indian armed forces in near future also.
best thing would be rope in pvt companies like tata and mass produce them.:meeting:
 
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Ecuador will probably use this helicopter to crack down on drug smugglers flying over head supporting police ground operations. So this is a cost effective way for them to do this, multi-role helicopter is what they needed. Not sure if this is the best choice for them but that is their decision.

I don't see why it is not the best choice for them- it is an excellent and versatile helo and offers capabilities that no other helo in its price range could possibly do.


A great article on the ALH and its mission capabilities as well as versatility:
http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian...-indian-army-aviation-special-operations.html


+ Maybe Ecuafor would be interested in this capabilty that has now been added to the ALH for Indian forces:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian...borne-multi-barrel-machine-gun-ammunitio.html
 
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