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Indian Air Force (IAF) officers on Wednesday emphasised in the Supreme Court the need for induction of 'four plus or fifth' generation fighter aircraft like Rafale, which have niche stealth technology and enhanced electronic warfare capabilities.


Indian Air Force (IAF) officers on Wednesday emphasised in the Supreme Court the need for induction of ‘four plus or fifth’ generation fighter aircraft like Rafale, which have niche stealth technology and enhanced electronic warfare capabilities. Top IAF officers — Air Vice Marshall J Chalapati, Air Marshal Anil Khosla and Deputy Chief of Air staff, Air Marshal V R Chaudhari — had to rush to the apex court at short notice after a bench headed by Chief Justice Ranjan Gogoi said it wished to interact with IAF officers as the controversy over the Rafale deal concerns them.

They told the bench that Sukhoi 30s is the latest to be inducted which is a 3.5 generation aircraft and said the IAF does not have fourth or fifth generation aircraft.

The bench expressed its wish to interact with the officers when Attorney General K K Venugopal commenced his arguments on behalf of the Centre.


He was opposing the pleas for a CBI probe into the 36 Rafale fighter jet deal with France.

“We are dealing with the requirements of the Air Force and would like to ask an Air Force officer. We want to hear from an Air force officer and not the official of the Defence Ministry on the issue,” the bench said in the pre-lunch session.

Chalapati, who appeared before the bench also comprising Justices Sanjay Kishan Kaul and K M Joseph, answered all the questions asked by the CJI about the induction of fighter jets by India.

He said the country needs the fifth generation aircraft, which have niche stealth technology and enhanced electronic warfare capabilities.

The CJI asked Chalapati the first question, “What is the latest induction to IAF?”

Chalapati replied that it is Sukhoi Su-30MKI, manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited at Nashik in Maharashtra and Bangalore in Karnataka.

He said that IAF is getting new Su-30MKI aircraft each year.

The CJI then asked Chalapati that besides Su-30MKI, which aircraft are being manufactured in India.

The officer said that he himself is a pilot and has special liking for Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) being built in Bangalore but is yet to be inducted into IAF.

The CJI also asked the officer which generation aircraft are the LCA and Su-30MKI.

Chalapati said there is no clear definition of generation and as he has flied the LCA which according to him is three and half generation aircraft.

He said both LCA and Su-30MKI are three and half and fourth generation aircrafts respectively but the requirement of IAF at present is of four plus or fifth generations aircrafts.

The CJI asked does it mean that IAF currently requires few squadrons of fourth and fifth generation aircrafts.

Chalapati replied in affirmative and said, “the fifth generation aircraft have niche stealth technology and the electronic warfare capabilities are very very enhanced”.

The CJI Gogoi then asked Chalapati was there any induction made in IAF after Mirage in 1985.

The officer replied in negative which led CJI to observe: “It means since 1985 to 2018 there is zero induction”.

The CJI said it is all that they wanted to know from the officials and later asked them to go back to their offices after nearly half an hour saying, “Air Marshalls can now leave. This is a different kind of war room and you all can go to your war rooms. Thank You”.

The bench then continued with the arguments on the validity of Rafale jets deal.


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Rafale is one of the best 4++ Generation Fighter out there .. only 3 other planes can match Rafale , Su35 / EFT /F35
 
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Rafale is one of the best 4++ Generation Fighter out there .. only 3 other planes can match Rafale , Su35 / EFT /F35


The Statement is 100% correct by the IAF officer in his assessment

The CURRENT IAF has only 3rd generation & 4th generation Fighters

ie SU30 MKI being 4th generation
Mirage2000 Mig29 & even LCA Tejjas mk1 only 3.5 generation
Jaguars 3rd generation
MIG27 MIG21 obsolete

RAFALE is a true late 4th generation fighter as is Typhoon of EADS ie 4.75 generation

I would put the USA teen fighters ie late model block 60/70 falcon & Super hornets SU35 at 4.5 generation

The NEW Saudi F15 silent eagle will be 4.75 generation imo

Going Forward I would like to see IAF procure 36 more rafales

Upgrade 140 of the 272 su30mki to super mki

And fast track entry of Tejas mark 2 ie to induct 114 mark 2 Tejas by 2032
 
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The CJI Gogoi then asked Chalapati was there any induction made in IAF after Mirage in 1985.

The officer replied in negative which led CJI to observe: “It means since 1985 to 2018 there is zero induction”.

they lied to SC infront of Chief justice..
 
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they lied to SC infront of Chief justice..


I SEE that is blatent lie

because

250 of these arrived between 2002-2018

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The reports are all mismatched junk.

This report itself is contradictory and then there's report that they replied "MKI is the last fighter to be inducted", to which the court responded, "So nothing after 1985 then".

LOL. Maybe they're talking about Su27 which was introduced in 1985, and thus the latest we've is a "1985 design".
 
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I like the final words of CJI, "this is a different kind of war room and you all can return to your war rooms".
Seems like bench has already made up its mind of not questioning the deal and make it difficult for the IAF, but they are willing to give these f****** intellectuals their moment before putting them into the ground.
 
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"He said both LCA and Su-30MKI are three and half and fourth generation aircrafts respectively"

"They told the bench that Sukhoi 30s is the latest to be inducted which is a 3.5 generation aircraft and said the IAF does not have fourth or fifth generation aircraft."

Statements contradict each other. Hope they have not committed perjury.
 
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This is General knowledge

What is the difference between "General Knowledge" and "Common Knowledge"

iaf has no 4.5 , latest tech they have are su30MKi which will go through update soon(hopefully) and mirage2000
so they need 4.5 gen to counter the building 5th gen fleet of china

Rafales are purely for Pakistan. FGFA/F-35 would be for the Chinese J-20s.
 
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The reports are all mismatched junk.

This report itself is contradictory and then there's report that they replied "MKI is the last fighter to be inducted", to which the court responded, "So nothing after 1985 then".

LOL. Maybe they're talking about Su27 which was introduced in 1985, and thus the latest we've is a "1985 design".

They could have said IAF is flying jets from 1961.
 
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