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Without firing a single shot, Indian and Chinese soldiers recently engaged in a bloodbath in the Galwan Valley. The scuffle between the two nuclear-armed nations in the disputed Himalayan border region led to the deaths of at least 20 Indian soldiers.

The disputed Aksai Chin-Ladakh area
The 255km Darbuk-Shyok-Daulat Beg Oldie (DSDBO) road that connects Leh to the Karakoram Pass runs almost parallel to the border separating Ladakh from China’s Xinjiang province. It runs alongside the Shyok River, a critical communication line close to the LAC. The road, which has been two decades in the making, would allow the rapid deployment of Indian troops to the disputed area and has become a flashpoint between the Asian giants.

Another point of contention is the China National Highway 219 (G219) connecting Xinjiang to Tibet. Originally built in 1957 and made of gravel, G219 was upgraded to asphalt in 2013. About 179km of the highway passes through the disputed Aksai Chin plateau.

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The deadly clash in Galwan Valley
The fatal face-off took place in the moonlight on June 15, when soldiers from the Indian Army clashed with troops from the People’s Liberation Army close to Patrol Point 14 in the Galwan Valley of eastern Ladakh, more than 4,300 metres above sea level.

The Galwan River is the highest ridge line and overlooks the DSDBO road, posing a direct threat to the highway’s security. By controlling this area China can keep India’s claims on the Aksai Chin plateau in check. India claims China has recently begun amassing troops in the LAC and venturing deeper into the contested area.

China is also constructing the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor to the west of Daulat Beg Oldie, in the critical Gilgit-Baltistan region where China abuts Pakistan and India.

The Galwan Valley contains some of the most treacherous terrain on Earth. Conditions are extreme. Steep slopes of almost 50 per cent are jagged and full of loose rocks. The landscape, altitude and lack of oxygen makes physical activity highly demanding. The slope where the clash occurred is shown in the following satellite image from the opposite angle.

Full read in the following link: https://multimedia.scmp.com/infogra...3091480/China-India-border-dispute/index.html

Something factual and well-researched in relation to the theme after a while. This article also contain excellent info-graphics highlighting geographical realities of the 'regions of interest' as well as history of boundary issues between India and China.

Two interesting realities to consider.

1. The most recent clashes have occurred in regions subject to firearms ban:

Firearm ban
India and China signed a series of border agreements in 1993, 1996 and 2005. The 1996 agreement sought to reduce aggression by banning firearms and explosives within 2km of the LAC. An exception is made for military exercises, which allows for limited range weapons.

As a result, when the Indian soldiers encountered Chinese troops on June 15 both sides attacked each other with bare fists and medieval-looking clubs spiked with nails and wrapped in barbed wire. A video that circulated online showed how some Indian soldiers died in the fight, while others from falling into the icy river below.

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2. These clashes have occurred in regions where human body may experience substantial problems:


Health effects
The low atmospheric oxygen, low humidity, and strong ultraviolet radiation experienced at high altitudes can induce a number of pathophysiological phenomena, which can lead to disorders of the cardiovascular, respiratory, and ocular systems.

Military operations 4,000 metres above sea level represent complex challenges. Soldiers need to stop at different heights over several days to acclimatise to the altitude. Ascending too quickly can put even young and healthy soldiers at grave risk of acute altitude sickness, pulmonary oedema, and cerebral oedema.

Even after they acclimatise, the speed at which soldiers can move is compromised, as are the loads they can carry, and they need to consume additional calories to remain fit and healthy.

In addition to altitude challenges the temperature adds further stress to the soldiers’ well-being, with humans unable to withstand prolonged periods in temperatures above 50ºC or below -26ºC, which are common in the region.

ACUTE MOUNTAIN SICKNESS (AMS)
The mildest form of altitude sickness, AMS is produced by a lack of oxygen and can affect anybody. Symptoms include headache, nausea, vomiting, fatigue, irritability, dizziness and sleep disturbance, and can appear three to 24 hours after ascent. The incidence and severity vary with the initial altitude, rate of ascent, level of effort, and individual body conditions.

Symptom scale in a rapid ascent

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Above 4,000 metres, most people who have not gone through an acclimatisation process will lose 20 per cent of their normal skills, which may persist after acclimatisation. At least half of all people without acclimatisation will experience some or all of the symptoms for several days. Height also affects a series of cognitive abilities, deficiencies in psychomotor performance, mental abilities or the ability to react quickly, Surveillance capacity, memory and logical reasoning are also affected.

ORGANIC EFFECTS

High-altitude cerebral oedema (HACE)

An emergency in which swelling of the brain occurs because of high altitude. Early diagnosis is imperative as it can lead to death within 24 hours if untreated.

Eyes

At the extreme heights of Ladakh and Sikkim, a soldier's eyesight may change. Low air pressure can induce corneal distortion (causing nearsightedness), diminish low light vision, and degrade depth perception.

High altitude pulmonary endema (HAPE)


In normal lungs, air sacs (alveoli) take in oxygen. In high-altitude pulmonary edema vessels in the lungs constrict and cause increased pressure. This causes fluid to leak from the blood vessels to the lung tissues and eventually into the air sacs.

Renal function and fluid balance


A reduction in plasma volume occurs 5 percent, body water is also reduced by 5 percent, mainly because of lower water intake, changes in thirst regulation, anti diuresis, fluid retention and disorders in urine production.

Cardiovascular changes

Increased resting and moving heart rates. These levels return to normal after an adequate acclimatization process.
 
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Interesting the article claims 1967 skirmish to be a war

The Sino-India war of 1962 resulted in China redrawing the border as the Line of Actual Control in its own favour, while the second Sino-India war of 1967 saw India push China back, further obfuscating the location of the Himalayan border.
 
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Interesting the article claims 1967 skirmish to be a war
SCMP is one of the better sources in the world; professional and informative.

India needs to come out of its Bollywood hubris and strive to emulate SCMP to say the least.

I do not say that Indians lie all the time but the spin they give to numerous stories is too much to bear at times. Indians make other roll their eyes very often now.
 
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SCMP maybe based in HK, the folks are running them are mostly western and pro-western journalists. Alibaba bought it years ago, but like many diverse businesses it owns, Alibaba doesn't interfere with the operation. The journalistic standard maybe higher than India media(very low bar) it is also well known for bias and unprofessional coverage of many issues.

Take this article, look at how bias and twisted they are, "Since 1949, China has been involved in 23 territorial disputes including sovereignty over Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan."

Hong Kong and Macau aren't territorial dispute, they were casualties of western imperialism due to be returned. Taiwan is unfinished civil war, not territorial dispute. China doesn't even consider Taiwan a sovereign state.

1967 by all credible accounts was a standoff that turned into skirmish, not a war. Unless you go by Indian narrative. Such is their journalistic professionalism.
 
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SCMP maybe based in HK, the folks are running them are mostly western and pro-western journalists. Alibaba bought it years ago, but like many diverse businesses it owns, Alibaba doesn't interfere with the operation. The journalistic standard maybe higher than India media(very low bar) it is also well known for bias and unprofessional coverage of many issues.

Take this article, look at how bias and twisted they are, "Since 1949, China has been involved in 23 territorial disputes including sovereignty over Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan."

Hong Kong and Macau aren't territorial dispute, they were casualties of western imperialism due to be returned. Taiwan is unfinished civil war, not territorial dispute. China doesn't even consider Taiwan a sovereign state.

1967 by all credible accounts was a standoff that turned into skirmish, not a war. Unless you go by Indian narrative. Such is their journalistic professionalism.
No media outlet is perfect or up to the taste of everybody in a country but SCMP does have significant credentials: https://corp.scmp.com/south-china-m...rent-journalism-by-joining-the-trust-project/

There are numerous issues which I have been able to understand better by checking SCMP and not in standard Western media because of their own spin to a story. SCMP balance things out.

In Pakistani media circles; some are mouthpieces of the state and some are mouthpieces of a particular political party. Business Recorder is better than most however. DAWN also provide informative articles but mostly offline.

That is fine - WE should have differing perspectives to work with. SCMP is SOFT POWER of your country abroad - realize and respect it, friend.
 
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No media outlet is perfect or up to the taste of everybody in a country but SCMP does have significant credentials: https://corp.scmp.com/south-china-m...rent-journalism-by-joining-the-trust-project/

There are numerous issues which I have been able to understand better by checking SCMP and not through Western media at large.

In Pakistani media circles; some are mouthpieces of the state and some are mouthpieces of a particular political party. Business Recorder is better than most however. DAWN also provide informative articles but mostly not offline.

That is fine - WE should have differing perspectives to work with. SCMP is your country soft power - realize and respect it.

No one is saying any media is perfect. In this part of the world, SCMP isn't known for partial reporting, having a pro-western perspective is one thing, different perspective is totally fine, but not twisted narrative. As I cited above, no fair and respectable press would term HK and Taiwan issues as China's territorial dispute. Unless one considers Hong Kong as independent country. Foreigner of course won't pick up that.

Imagine one Pak media bracket Balochistan as disputed due to some separatist movement. And I, as a foreigner, trying to convince you that media is highly credible. It generates soft power. Appreciate it :lol:

Well, your opinion is exactly that of a foreigner.
 
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No one is saying any media is perfect. In this part of the world, SCMP isn't known for partial reporting, having a pro-western perspective is one thing, different perspective is totally fine, but not twisted narrative. As I cited above, no fair and respectable press would term HK and Taiwan issues as China's territorial dispute. Unless one considers Hong Kong as independent country. Foreigner of course won't pick up that.

Imagine one Pak media bracket Balochistan as disputed due to some separatist movement. And I, as a foreigner, trying to convince you that media is highly credible. It generates soft power. Appreciate it :lol:

Well, your opinion is exactly that of a foreigner.
Which Chinese source you recommend? Please provide a pointer. I will keep it in mind.
 
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That is fine - WE should have differing perspectives to work with. SCMP is SOFT POWER of your country abroad - realize and respect it, friend.
SCMP is SOFT POWER for Canada, US, UK and rest of 5 EYES, YES.
SCMP is Anti China, except for one or two journalists, YES.
@nature is is from Canada, so you are correct.
But I am not sure he will respect it.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathu_La_and_Cho_La_clashes
According to Chinese claims, the number of soldiers killed was 32 on the Chinese side and 65 on the Indian side in Nathu La incident; and 36 Indian soldiers and an 'unknown' number of Chinese were killed in the Cho La incident.[8]

On the other hand, the Indian Defence Ministry reported: 88 killed and 163 wounded on the Indian side, while 340 killed and 450 wounded on the Chinese side, during the two incidents.[6][7]
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Statement from China: China died 32, India died 101
Statement from India: China died 340, India died 88
1. Assuming that India’s death figure about India (88) is true, and China’s death figure about India is 101, the two sides are very similar,
2. Assuming that China’s death figure about China (32) is true, and India’s death figure about China is 340, the gap between the two is very large
By comparison, I think the Chinese data is more reliable
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathu_La_and_Cho_La_clashes
According to Chinese claims, the number of soldiers killed was 32 on the Chinese side and 65 on the Indian side in Nathu La incident; and 36 Indian soldiers and an 'unknown' number of Chinese were killed in the Cho La incident.[8]

On the other hand, the Indian Defence Ministry reported: 88 killed and 163 wounded on the Indian side, while 340 killed and 450 wounded on the Chinese side, during the two incidents.[6][7]
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Statement from China: China died 32, India died 101
Statement from India: China died 340, India died 88
1. Assuming that India’s death figure about India (88) is true, and China’s death figure for India is 101, the two sides are very similar,
2. Assuming that China’s death figure about China (32) is true, and India’s death figure for China is 340, the gap between the two is very large
By comparison, I think the Chinese data is more reliable

How come the Chinese government does not know how many Chinese soldiers died in Cho La.
 
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