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India and Pakistan up the nuclear ante

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A recent surge of missile tests by the neighbours rings alarm bells in the West.

KARACHI: India and Pakistan may be plagued by extreme poverty and lack of education but that does not stop the two nuclear-armed rivals from consciously splurging on nuclear weapons.

“India and Pakistan are increasing the size and sophistication of their nuclear arsenals. Both countries are developing and deploying new types of nuclear-capable ballistic and cruise missiles and both are increasing their military fissile material production capabilities,” said the 2012 yearbook of the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.

The neighbours are not only increasing the size of their nuclear arsenal, they’re also increasingly showing it off.

The most recent surge of missile tests kicked off with India’s launch of a new long-range weapon capable of hitting China just over six weeks ago; a launch that was subsequently followed by Pakistan’s very own nuclear-capable missile tests – five to be precise. However, the flexibility given to the nuclear-armed neighbours by the West in part exists as the two neutralise each other’s capabilities.

India successfully test-fired the Agni V on April 20, capable of delivering a one-tonne nuclear warhead anywhere in rival China. The test was followed by Pakistan’s test of ‘first-strike’ tactical short-range warheads, which aim to counter India’s superior conventional forces. The last one was the Hatf VII cruise missile, which was tested on June 5, has a range of 700 km, can carry conventional warheads and has stealth capabilities.

Alarm bells

The routine tests, however, do ring alarm bells in the region and international circles. Pakistan in particular treads a much finer line as the West has conveyed its unease over Islamabad’s ‘two-faced’ approach towards militancy.

Defence analyst Hasan Askari Rizvi suggests that the routine tests are inherent in nuclear deterrence arrangements, adding that such tests will not adversely affect efforts to improve trade and diplomatic relations between India and Pakistan.

“Both want to improve trade relations, at least for the time being. What can hinder trade relations are political, ideological and bureaucratic obstacles which are surmountable,” Rizvi said.

However, some analysts have argued that New Delhi’s strategic priorities are moving away from Pakistan to focus more on China, while Pakistan is still concerned about its eastern neighbour.

“India sees Pakistan as a dangerous irritant but not a rival. Its militarisation is driven by the desire to project power in competition with China,” said nuclear physicist Pervez Hoodbhoy.

Defence analyst Talat Masood believes that India’s booming economy and strategic convergence with the US and the West have indirectly raised fears in Islamabad and given a rationale to the military to keep building its nuclear infrastructure and nuclear weapons.

Masood adds that Islamabad has also felt a sense of discrimination as it is denied access to the Nuclear Suppliers Group.

“The US-India strategic partnership agreement has totally altered the strategic balance in India’s favor,” said Masood.

A recent deterioration in relations between the US and Pakistan has also heightened insecurities in Islamabad, analysts suggest.

“The rapid increase in our nuclear arsenal is probably to add redundancy because some severe crisis might lead to a US attempt at snatching Pakistan’s nukes,” said Hoodbhoy.

‘First-strike’ policy

The possible escalation has also caused concern in the region as Pakistan has increased its development of ‘first-strike’ tactical short-range warheads to counter India’s superior conventional forces. There is fear that in a conflict between the neighbours, Islamabad would be the first to use nuclear weapons to deter a conventional strike by New Delhi.

“It is true that tactical nuclear weapons are very destabilising, especially considering the geographical proximity of the two nations,” Masood said, adding that the two countries need to engage in serious dialogue on nuclear and strategic issues. However, he rules out the possibility of Pakistan halting or decreasing the development of tactical weapons.

“If Pakistan agrees to No First Use, India’s conventional military superiority will become operational,” said Askari.

Pakistan is believed to have slightly more nuclear warheads than India – 90 to 110 – compared with New Delhi’s 80-100. But experts say the figures may not include Pakistan’s growing number of short-range tactical weapons, according to a report by The Telegraph.

Published In The Express Tribune, June 14th, 2012.

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i noticed u did not highlight any parts that mentioned india's large conventional superiority :lol:
 
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sure but do u have balls to fire those??? that is the question.

If the time comes where they need to use them, they will there is no doubt in that.
 
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If the time comes where they need to use them, they will there is no doubt in that.

at what cost, the answer will be given from sea and pakistan will be almost gone. we know about their country more than they do about us. we will strike where it will hit the best.
 
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at what cost, the answer will be given from sea and pakistan will be almost gone. we know about their country more than they do about us. we will strike where it will hit the best.

Anything to qualify this or did you just watch a bunch of Ziad videos on you tube and now think you are an expert on Pakistan?
 
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Anything to qualify this or did you just watch a bunch of Ziad videos on you tube and now think you are an expert on Pakistan?

loll my frnd my dad works in isro. india is keeping 24/7 watch on pakistan in space. many missiles silos and bases in pakistan are known to india but not pakistan. the only think pakistan knows are the nuclear plants and establishments, not the indian secret missile silos and bases. moreover we have a detterent in sea INS arihanth soon will have 5 of them in indian ocean, good luck dealing with it. :smokin:
 
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at what cost, the answer will be given from sea and pakistan will be almost gone. we know about their country more than they do about us. we will strike where it will hit the best.

I am sick and tired of the same argument by indians "at what cost?"

If by now you havn't understood the Pakistani mentality, understand it now. We Pakistani's are not afraid of consequences, because thinking about consequences upsets our judgement and decission making.

Indians always blame that Pakistan started all wars, and we all know india always had a superior numerical advantage on Pakistan, conversly after indian parliment attack and mumbai massacre despite the ho ha and intentions and sending your million + soldiers on the border and keeping themm there for two years india did not dare fire a single bullet.

Tell me genious who has the balls?


loll my frnd my dad works in isro. india is keeping 24/7 watch on pakistan in space. many missiles silos and bases in pakistan are known to india but not pakistan. the only think pakistan knows are the nuclear plants and establishments, not the indian secret missile silos and bases. moreover we have a detterent in sea INS arihanth soon will have 5 of them in indian ocean, good luck dealing with it. :smokin:

hmmmmmmmmm yada yada yada.........did you forgot the IN person you arrested or the IAF person, they both were working for ISI, there are many others in other indian organizations who get monthly salary from ISI. You think they only pass on ocra or egg plant rates?
 
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I am sick and tired of the same argument by indians "at what cost?"

If by now you havn't understood the Pakistani mentality, understand it now. We Pakistani's are not afraid of consequences, because thinking about consequences upsets our judgement and decission making.

Indians always blame that Pakistan started all wars, and we all know india always had a superior numerical advantage on Pakistan, conversly after indian parliment attack and mumbai massacre despite the ho ha and intentions and sending your million + soldiers on the border and keeping themm there for two years india did not dare fire a single bullet.

Tell me genious who has the balls?

india cant afford a war anymore, we cant afford 10 billion on a war and another 20 to rebuild. yr hamid gul says that war is good for pakistan as it wont have to pay it debts if it bombs india, shows mentality of pakistani people.

on the other hand if india goes on war economy will be comletely mess up and will come to a halt.
 
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many missiles silos and bases in pakistan are known to india

FYI, Pakistan doesn't has any missile SILOS. All missiles are Road-mobile TEL based. However, they are placed inside Underground bunkers during peace times.

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PAK is making nukes to safeguard her sovereignty and integrity while Babus in delhi is making nukes with hegemonic and imperialistic intentions. It is these lunatic babus that started the arms race , so its up to them to end it. But India's greed and thirst of power and hegemony can never be quinced even if it means 700 million indians living below $2 a day.
 
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india cant afford a war anymore, we cant afford 10 billion on a war and another 20 to rebuild. yr hamid gul says that war is good for pakistan as it wont have to pay it debts if it bombs india, shows mentality of pakistani people.

on the other hand if india goes on war economy will be comletely mess up and will come to a halt.

India didn't have to go to war to mess up its economy and put a halt to it, what an achievement! your economy got a heart attack.


Indian economy dismal, courtesy governance failure

Indian economy dismal, courtesy governance failure




Success of a nation can be measured in many ways. GDP is one method, but has been long recognized as an incomplete metric. Literacy and level of education are, for example, important national goals, but are not in GDP. Availability of clean water on a 24/7 basis might be another. Most of us though are real world people, and prefer real world measures. The wealth of a nation and its ability to feed the citizens may be far more important than theoretical measures like GDP.

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While India's economic progress was evident, the benefits were narrowly based. A large portion of the population continued to struggle with low living standards or poverty, lacking access to basic amenities such as sufficient nutrition, clean water, sanitation, as well as basic education and health services. The basis of the growth was also not balanced.

After years without a good news story, the Indian media focused on the nation's "greatnesses", relying on extraneous facts. The fact that the market capitalisation of State Bank of India surpassed that of Citigroup was cheered. The press celebrated the first Indian edition of Harper's Bazaar which featured a crystal-studded cover, the introduction by Rolls-Royce of its new Phantom Coupe in India, and the opening of a new BMW showroom in Delhi.

In late 2011, the Indian government's 12th five-year plan forecast growth of 9 per cent between 2012 and 2017. By early 2012, India's growth had slowed to around 6 per cent - high by the standards of developed countries, but well below the levels required to maintain economic momentum and improve the living standards of its citizens.

Elements of the "India Shining" story remain intact – the demographics of a youthful population, the large domestic demand base and the high savings rate. Increasingly, India's problems – poor public finances, weak international position, structurally flawed businesses, poor infrastructure, corruption, and political atrophy - threaten to overwhelm its potential.

In recent years, India has consistently run a public sector deficit of 9-10 per cent of GDP, including the state governments and off-balance-sheet items. The problem of large budget deficits is compounded by one major cause – poorly targeted subsidies for fertiliser, food and petroleum which may amount to as much as 9 per cent of GDP.

In March 2012, India brought down a budget forecasting a fiscal deficit of 5.9 per cent, well above its previous fiscal deficit target of 4.6 per cent. India's strong rate of recent growth (an average rate of 14 per cent between 2004-05 and 2009-10) made large deficits, in the order of 10 per cent of GDP, relatively sustainable. Slowing growth will increasingly constrain India's ability to run continuing large deficits.

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