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Ind Def News Take: Why India should buy the formidable Russian T-14 Armata Tank

Russian_Tank_Armata.jpg

For countries like India and China, it is still economically rational and sensible to continue to turn to Russia for defence equipment and weapons rather than attempt to develop it on their own from scratch, it facilitates them to bypass the arduous tasks of designing and developing such complex platforms which in the long run saves them significant amount of time and effort, in addition there are also considerable difficulties in finding appropriate resources to develop such systems.

Another channel which is constantly explored is technology transfer or by outright reverse engineering. TOT can be beneficial to countries with sound industrial and technological base and overtime the advanced technologies can be eventually absorbed. But India's assimilation of TOT over the decades has been pathetic. Despite several decades of manufacturing fighter jets in India such as the MiG-21, SEPECAT Jaguar, Mig-29, Sukhoi-30MKI and the Mirage-2000, India has not been able to leverage the surmisable knowledge and experience thence gained. The LCA-Tejas has taken close to two decades to evolve as a credible fighting system and it is still limping toward its crucial Final Operational Clearance (FOC), the lumbering KAVERI engine development has also not accomplished its objectives, and let us not forget to consider the IJT-SITARA/NAL SARAS/HTT-40 fiascoes as well.

On the other hand, the Chinese have proven to be masters of cloning, and they have managed to reverse-engineer several weapons of Russian and other origins (Read a related and informative articlehere), including entire Jet fighters, however India has willfully refused to attmept such an exercise, and this has proven very costly for India.

Armata_Tank_1.png


What China has managed to achieve is remarkable in the past 2 decades, they have developed weapons systems of various diversity across the spectrum of its armed forces. India still depends on imports for all its major weapons.

A notable point is that the Indian Army has not been very keen to induct the Arjun MBT as they contend that it does not comply to their specificatons. Taking this factor into consideration it would be prudent for India to contemplate and plan to procure the T-14 Armata super tank from Russia in the future.

Over the past several decades has developed many world-class tanks, their design philosophy is to keep it simple and functional, the success stories of Soviet tanks destroying highly advanced Nazi & Western tanks is widely known. Their tanks do not have any high tech gimmickry but served the purpose in the destruction of their enemies.
Armata_Tank_3.png


Military action in Chechnya demonstrated that the Soviet era tanks, while perfect for mass armies, was not as good in local conflicts.
Due to the layout of the T-72/90 the tank's crew is not separated from the ammunition and in case of detonation has no chance of survival.
All this was taken into consideration when designing a new machine. T-14 Armata has overcome this anomaly in the new tank design. Armata is still a secretive project and very little is out in the public domain about its performance characteristics, however, according to the classified information leaked to the media, the new MBT will receive a 125 mm gun (with optional 152 mm), the tower will be uninhabited, the gun will be capable of remote recharge, the crew will be lined up inside an armored capsule separated from the compartment with ammunition. Armata will even get its own radar, able to track up to 40 dynamic and up to 25 aerodynamic targets and to control the territory within a radius of 100 km.

India, should be the likely first foreign client for the Armata – which will supersede the T-90, of which it operates more than 900 – with China, rest of Asia and North Africa some of the other potential destinations.


Here are 10 good reasons why India should opt for the formidable T-14 Armata:

1. Armata is not the name of a tank, but an armored platform, onto which modules will be fitted to create more than a dozen vehicles. Besides the T-14 battle tank, it will be the chassis for a personnel carrier, self-propelled artillery and an air defense system.

2. The T-14 is the first Russian tank designed entirely in the post-Soviet era, and within a short spon of only six years. The design and production of certain crucial elements – such as the armor, and the turrets – had to be done “from scratch.”

3. Armata T-14 features a fully automated and unmanned turret – perhaps the most revolutionary technological decision taken by its designers. In theory, this should allow better protection for the crew, now located in the hull, though the innovation could come at the expense of situational awareness.

4. In fact, due to its new-generation turret, and a field of vision which is created by HD cameras and sensors mounted all around, Armata is well on the way to becoming the first unmanned battle tank, according to sources in the Russian defense ministry, with only limited modifications necessary to turn it into a ground-drone.

5. One of the future modifications of the Armata tank is to be fitted with the long-awaited massive 152 mm gun, which will be able to “burn through a meter of steel,” according to Russia’s top defense experts.

6. The ambitious Afganit Active Protection System uses a radar to detect incoming projectiles, and automatically intercept them. While its exact parameters are unclear, Russian sources say it could stop missiles launched from an Apache helicopter, while US Army experts say the defense will mostly be effective against grenades and sub-caliber projectiles.

7. Lighter than most Western tanks, the T-14 retains one of the trademark qualities of Russian armored vehicles – a higher top speed. The tank is able to move at up to 90 km/h, more than 20 km/h faster than the US mainstay Abrams M1A2.

8. Though it is not yet in mass production, the Armata T-14’s price was previously estimated at about 400 million rubles – $8 million at current exchange rates. While this puts it in the upper price range for battle tanks, it remains cheaper than the French AMX Leclerc and US main battle tank M1A2 Abrams, and below the price of other new-generation vehicles, such as S.Korea’s K2 Black Panther and Japan’s Type 10. Chinese tanks are relatively cheaper but they anyway rip-offs of old Russian designs.

9. The Russian military is currently operating 20 prototype models of the tank, but will soon start receiving more than a 500 a year, with the eventual order expected to top out at 2,300 – more than two-thirds of its armor capability.

10. The Armata tank's main armament includes a 7.62mm remote-control machine gun and a 125mm smooth bore cannon. The tank is operated by a crew of three, housed in an armored capsule at the front.

IDN TAKE: Why India Should buy the Formidable Russian T-14 ARMATA Tank | Indian Defence News
 
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Would go for MBT Arjun Mark II instead which has already cleared all user trials with the Indian Army successfully - 118 MBT's have already been ordered - 124 are bing pushed along with indigenously developed CLGM. FMBT is on the cards for replacing T-72's. IA doesn't seem to be interested in T-14's.

VIJY9268-783822.JPG

Indian MoD to Push for 124 More MBT Arjun Mark II - DRDO's CLGM to replace Israeli LAHAT Missile!

BIGGEST ARM IMPORTER IN ACTION AGAIN .......... JAB BHI KOI WEAPON DEKHTA HAI INDIA IS KI RAAAL TAPAKTI HAI .

Currently Saudi Arabia is the world's biggest arms importer - not India.

Saudi Arabia becomes world's biggest arms importer | World news | The Guardian

Before India, China was consecutively ranked World's biggest Arms Importer - Right now its #3 - and Pakistan has been ranked consecutively ranked in the list as well - right now at #5 - So what is ailing Pakistan to become the world's largest arms importer - its economy! If you have the bucks you will buy for sure but that is not the case with the poor state of your economy. While India can very well affoprt those imports - Pakistan can't! As simple as that.

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Pakistan imports more compared to India as a percentage of its budgetary allocation and per capita basis.

Pakistan buys 55% of China’s arms exports
 
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Ind Def News Take: Why India should buy the formidable Russian T-14 Armata Tank

Russian_Tank_Armata.jpg

For countries like India and China, it is still economically rational and sensible to continue to turn to Russia for defence equipment and weapons rather than attempt to develop it on their own from scratch, it facilitates them to bypass the arduous tasks of designing and developing such complex platforms which in the long run saves them significant amount of time and effort, in addition there are also considerable difficulties in finding appropriate resources to develop such systems.

Another channel which is constantly explored is technology transfer or by outright reverse engineering. TOT can be beneficial to countries with sound industrial and technological base and overtime the advanced technologies can be eventually absorbed. But India's assimilation of TOT over the decades has been pathetic. Despite several decades of manufacturing fighter jets in India such as the MiG-21, SEPECAT Jaguar, Mig-29, Sukhoi-30MKI and the Mirage-2000, India has not been able to leverage the surmisable knowledge and experience thence gained. The LCA-Tejas has taken close to two decades to evolve as a credible fighting system and it is still limping toward its crucial Final Operational Clearance (FOC), the lumbering KAVERI engine development has also not accomplished its objectives, and let us not forget to consider the IJT-SITARA/NAL SARAS/HTT-40 fiascoes as well.

On the other hand, the Chinese have proven to be masters of cloning, and they have managed to reverse-engineer several weapons of Russian and other origins (Read a related and informative articlehere), including entire Jet fighters, however India has willfully refused to attmept such an exercise, and this has proven very costly for India.

Armata_Tank_1.png


What China has managed to achieve is remarkable in the past 2 decades, they have developed weapons systems of various diversity across the spectrum of its armed forces. India still depends on imports for all its major weapons.

A notable point is that the Indian Army has not been very keen to induct the Arjun MBT as they contend that it does not comply to their specificatons. Taking this factor into consideration it would be prudent for India to contemplate and plan to procure the T-14 Armata super tank from Russia in the future.

Over the past several decades has developed many world-class tanks, their design philosophy is to keep it simple and functional, the success stories of Soviet tanks destroying highly advanced Nazi & Western tanks is widely known. Their tanks do not have any high tech gimmickry but served the purpose in the destruction of their enemies.
Armata_Tank_3.png


Military action in Chechnya demonstrated that the Soviet era tanks, while perfect for mass armies, was not as good in local conflicts.
Due to the layout of the T-72/90 the tank's crew is not separated from the ammunition and in case of detonation has no chance of survival.
All this was taken into consideration when designing a new machine. T-14 Armata has overcome this anomaly in the new tank design. Armata is still a secretive project and very little is out in the public domain about its performance characteristics, however, according to the classified information leaked to the media, the new MBT will receive a 125 mm gun (with optional 152 mm), the tower will be uninhabited, the gun will be capable of remote recharge, the crew will be lined up inside an armored capsule separated from the compartment with ammunition. Armata will even get its own radar, able to track up to 40 dynamic and up to 25 aerodynamic targets and to control the territory within a radius of 100 km.

India, should be the likely first foreign client for the Armata – which will supersede the T-90, of which it operates more than 900 – with China, rest of Asia and North Africa some of the other potential destinations.


Here are 10 good reasons why India should opt for the formidable T-14 Armata:

1. Armata is not the name of a tank, but an armored platform, onto which modules will be fitted to create more than a dozen vehicles. Besides the T-14 battle tank, it will be the chassis for a personnel carrier, self-propelled artillery and an air defense system.

2. The T-14 is the first Russian tank designed entirely in the post-Soviet era, and within a short spon of only six years. The design and production of certain crucial elements – such as the armor, and the turrets – had to be done “from scratch.”

3. Armata T-14 features a fully automated and unmanned turret – perhaps the most revolutionary technological decision taken by its designers. In theory, this should allow better protection for the crew, now located in the hull, though the innovation could come at the expense of situational awareness.

4. In fact, due to its new-generation turret, and a field of vision which is created by HD cameras and sensors mounted all around, Armata is well on the way to becoming the first unmanned battle tank, according to sources in the Russian defense ministry, with only limited modifications necessary to turn it into a ground-drone.

5. One of the future modifications of the Armata tank is to be fitted with the long-awaited massive 152 mm gun, which will be able to “burn through a meter of steel,” according to Russia’s top defense experts.

6. The ambitious Afganit Active Protection System uses a radar to detect incoming projectiles, and automatically intercept them. While its exact parameters are unclear, Russian sources say it could stop missiles launched from an Apache helicopter, while US Army experts say the defense will mostly be effective against grenades and sub-caliber projectiles.

7. Lighter than most Western tanks, the T-14 retains one of the trademark qualities of Russian armored vehicles – a higher top speed. The tank is able to move at up to 90 km/h, more than 20 km/h faster than the US mainstay Abrams M1A2.

8. Though it is not yet in mass production, the Armata T-14’s price was previously estimated at about 400 million rubles – $8 million at current exchange rates. While this puts it in the upper price range for battle tanks, it remains cheaper than the French AMX Leclerc and US main battle tank M1A2 Abrams, and below the price of other new-generation vehicles, such as S.Korea’s K2 Black Panther and Japan’s Type 10. Chinese tanks are relatively cheaper but they anyway rip-offs of old Russian designs.

9. The Russian military is currently operating 20 prototype models of the tank, but will soon start receiving more than a 500 a year, with the eventual order expected to top out at 2,300 – more than two-thirds of its armor capability.

10. The Armata tank's main armament includes a 7.62mm remote-control machine gun and a 125mm smooth bore cannon. The tank is operated by a crew of three, housed in an armored capsule at the front.

IDN TAKE: Why India Should buy the Formidable Russian T-14 ARMATA Tank | Indian Defence News
Start of Article is enough to show the crap it is China now produces vast majority of its weapons which India doesn't, as for this Tank its way over hyped machine.
 
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Would go for MBT Arjun Mark II instead which has already cleared all user trials with the Indian Army successfully - 118 MBT's have already been ordered - 124 are bing pushed along with indigenously developed CLGM. FMBT is on the cards for replacing T-72's. IA doesn't seem to be interested in T-14's.

VIJY9268-783822.JPG

Indian MoD to Push for 124 More MBT Arjun Mark II - DRDO's CLGM to replace Israeli LAHAT Missile!

I'll second that. Arjun mk2 should be pushed down army's throat.​
 
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Ind Def News Take: Why India should buy the formidable Russian T-14 Armata Tank

Russian_Tank_Armata.jpg

For countries like India and China, it is still economically rational and sensible to continue to turn to Russia for defence equipment and weapons rather than attempt to develop it on their own from scratch, it facilitates them to bypass the arduous tasks of designing and developing such complex platforms which in the long run saves them significant amount of time and effort, in addition there are also considerable difficulties in finding appropriate resources to develop such systems.

Another channel which is constantly explored is technology transfer or by outright reverse engineering. TOT can be beneficial to countries with sound industrial and technological base and overtime the advanced technologies can be eventually absorbed. But India's assimilation of TOT over the decades has been pathetic. Despite several decades of manufacturing fighter jets in India such as the MiG-21, SEPECAT Jaguar, Mig-29, Sukhoi-30MKI and the Mirage-2000, India has not been able to leverage the surmisable knowledge and experience thence gained. The LCA-Tejas has taken close to two decades to evolve as a credible fighting system and it is still limping toward its crucial Final Operational Clearance (FOC), the lumbering KAVERI engine development has also not accomplished its objectives, and let us not forget to consider the IJT-SITARA/NAL SARAS/HTT-40 fiascoes as well.

On the other hand, the Chinese have proven to be masters of cloning, and they have managed to reverse-engineer several weapons of Russian and other origins (Read a related and informative articlehere), including entire Jet fighters, however India has willfully refused to attmept such an exercise, and this has proven very costly for India.

Armata_Tank_1.png


What China has managed to achieve is remarkable in the past 2 decades, they have developed weapons systems of various diversity across the spectrum of its armed forces. India still depends on imports for all its major weapons.

A notable point is that the Indian Army has not been very keen to induct the Arjun MBT as they contend that it does not comply to their specificatons. Taking this factor into consideration it would be prudent for India to contemplate and plan to procure the T-14 Armata super tank from Russia in the future.

Over the past several decades has developed many world-class tanks, their design philosophy is to keep it simple and functional, the success stories of Soviet tanks destroying highly advanced Nazi & Western tanks is widely known. Their tanks do not have any high tech gimmickry but served the purpose in the destruction of their enemies.
Armata_Tank_3.png


Military action in Chechnya demonstrated that the Soviet era tanks, while perfect for mass armies, was not as good in local conflicts.
Due to the layout of the T-72/90 the tank's crew is not separated from the ammunition and in case of detonation has no chance of survival.
All this was taken into consideration when designing a new machine. T-14 Armata has overcome this anomaly in the new tank design. Armata is still a secretive project and very little is out in the public domain about its performance characteristics, however, according to the classified information leaked to the media, the new MBT will receive a 125 mm gun (with optional 152 mm), the tower will be uninhabited, the gun will be capable of remote recharge, the crew will be lined up inside an armored capsule separated from the compartment with ammunition. Armata will even get its own radar, able to track up to 40 dynamic and up to 25 aerodynamic targets and to control the territory within a radius of 100 km.

India, should be the likely first foreign client for the Armata – which will supersede the T-90, of which it operates more than 900 – with China, rest of Asia and North Africa some of the other potential destinations.


Here are 10 good reasons why India should opt for the formidable T-14 Armata:

1. Armata is not the name of a tank, but an armored platform, onto which modules will be fitted to create more than a dozen vehicles. Besides the T-14 battle tank, it will be the chassis for a personnel carrier, self-propelled artillery and an air defense system.

2. The T-14 is the first Russian tank designed entirely in the post-Soviet era, and within a short spon of only six years. The design and production of certain crucial elements – such as the armor, and the turrets – had to be done “from scratch.”

3. Armata T-14 features a fully automated and unmanned turret – perhaps the most revolutionary technological decision taken by its designers. In theory, this should allow better protection for the crew, now located in the hull, though the innovation could come at the expense of situational awareness.

4. In fact, due to its new-generation turret, and a field of vision which is created by HD cameras and sensors mounted all around, Armata is well on the way to becoming the first unmanned battle tank, according to sources in the Russian defense ministry, with only limited modifications necessary to turn it into a ground-drone.

5. One of the future modifications of the Armata tank is to be fitted with the long-awaited massive 152 mm gun, which will be able to “burn through a meter of steel,” according to Russia’s top defense experts.

6. The ambitious Afganit Active Protection System uses a radar to detect incoming projectiles, and automatically intercept them. While its exact parameters are unclear, Russian sources say it could stop missiles launched from an Apache helicopter, while US Army experts say the defense will mostly be effective against grenades and sub-caliber projectiles.

7. Lighter than most Western tanks, the T-14 retains one of the trademark qualities of Russian armored vehicles – a higher top speed. The tank is able to move at up to 90 km/h, more than 20 km/h faster than the US mainstay Abrams M1A2.

8. Though it is not yet in mass production, the Armata T-14’s price was previously estimated at about 400 million rubles – $8 million at current exchange rates. While this puts it in the upper price range for battle tanks, it remains cheaper than the French AMX Leclerc and US main battle tank M1A2 Abrams, and below the price of other new-generation vehicles, such as S.Korea’s K2 Black Panther and Japan’s Type 10. Chinese tanks are relatively cheaper but they anyway rip-offs of old Russian designs.

9. The Russian military is currently operating 20 prototype models of the tank, but will soon start receiving more than a 500 a year, with the eventual order expected to top out at 2,300 – more than two-thirds of its armor capability.

10. The Armata tank's main armament includes a 7.62mm remote-control machine gun and a 125mm smooth bore cannon. The tank is operated by a crew of three, housed in an armored capsule at the front.

IDN TAKE: Why India Should buy the Formidable Russian T-14 ARMATA Tank | Indian Defence News

There is No Substitute for Developing Defense Equipment on own if a Nation wants to become Self Reliant in this Arena.

China has Enormous Foreign Reserve, still they are trying to develop Turbofan engine, beacuse in long run, it implies their dependence upon Russia will be greatly reduced.

The Indian Decsion of Developing Akash SAM and other Defense Equipment will have same effect.

Lighter than most Western tanks, the T-14 retains one of the trademark qualities of Russian armored vehicles – a higher top speed. The tank is able to move at up to 90 km/h, more than 20 km/h faster than the US mainstay Abrams M1A2

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Ineteresting, very ineteresting...................
 
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Would go for MBT Arjun Mark II instead which has already cleared all user trials with the Indian Army successfully - 118 MBT's have already been ordered - 124 are bing pushed along with indigenously developed CLGM. FMBT is on the cards for replacing T-72's. IA doesn't seem to be interested in T-14's.

VIJY9268-783822.JPG

Indian MoD to Push for 124 More MBT Arjun Mark II - DRDO's CLGM to replace Israeli LAHAT Missile!



Currently Saudi Arabia is the world's biggest arms importer - not India.

Saudi Arabia becomes world's biggest arms importer | World news | The Guardian

Before India, China was consecutively ranked World's biggest Arms Importer - Right now its #3 - and Pakistan has been ranked consecutively ranked in the list as well - right now at #5 - So what is ailing Pakistan to become the world's largest arms importer - its economy! If you have the bucks you will buy for sure but that is not the case with the poor state of your economy. While India can very well affoprt those imports - Pakistan can't! As simple as that.

oimg

Pakistan imports more compared to India as a percentage of its budgetary allocation and per capita basis.

Pakistan buys 55% of China’s arms exports

I second that Arjun should be pushed
 
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corporation of lic production ? Su-33MKI had lot of corporation then any of the PAK-China has...
buying tanks weapons and paint them with indian flag ............... paksitan has limited resources and you compare your self to us ... watch out for china ... you need 100 more years to compare your self to china .... biuhahahahhaha IDIOT .
 
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