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New Delhi/ Nagpur: Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s forcing the Indian Air Force to include Tejas, light combat aircraft (LCA) under his ambitious scheme Make-in-India, will cause tremendous threat to Air Force, which is looking out for upgradation of its striking capacity and trying for acquisition of Rafale aircrafts from France’s Dassault Aviation SA, will prove dangerous, said media reports quoting Military Circles.
According to reports, Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s decision, in line with his Make-in-India policy to encourage domestic industry, will cause a blow for not only the French manufacturer but also others circling over the Indian military aviation market worth billions of dollars. Tejas (LCA) is still in the struggling stage and its inclusion comes at a time when the Air Force is at its weakest operational strength since the 1962 war against China, which is causing anxiety within Military Circles.

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Modi government’s claim

But it has a different view point for Modi government. Since it took over last year, the Modi administration has repeatedly said that its overriding goal was to cut off the military’s addiction to foreign arms, which has made it the world’s top importer, sources said.

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The Air Force wanted the government to clear an additional squadron of 44 Rafale medium multi-role aircraft on top of the 36 that Modi announced during a visit to Paris this year that are to be bought off-the-shelf to meet its urgent requirements. But, a Defence Ministry official said that Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar had told the Air Force that there weren’t enough funds to expand the Rafale acquisition and that it must induct an improved version of the indigenously manufactured Tejas-Mark 1A. “The IAF needs to have a minimum number of aircraft at all times. The LCA is our best option at this stage, given our resource constraints,” the Defence official told the media, adding, “The Rafale is our most expensive acquisition. The LCA is our cheapest in the combat category.”

India’s Air Force says, its requires 45 fighter squadrons to counter a “two-front collusive threat” from Pakistan and China. But it only has 35 active fighter squadrons, Parliament’s Defence Committee said in a report in April citing a presentation by a top Air Force officer. With the draw-down of Soviet-era MiG 21 planes under way, the Air Force would be down to 25 squadrons by 2022 at the current pace of acquisitions, it told the committee.

Cleared by the government in 1983, the LCA designed by the government’s Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) was meant to be the backbone of the air force due for induction in 1994. Instead, it suffered years of delay and chaos with scientists trying to build the world’s most modern light combat aircraft from scratch, including the engine. Eventually they scrapped the engine, turning to GE Aviation and lowering their ambitions for a state-of-the-art fighter. So far, only one aircraft has been produced and even that is awaiting final operational clearance, now delayed to early 2016. “In January this year, they had given one LCA … which had not completed its flight testing. They handed over the papers to us. We do not make a squadron with one aeroplane. That is where we are,” said an Air Force officer speaking on condition of anonymity.

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An independent investigation by the Comptroller and Auditor General of India into the LCA programme identified 53 “shortfalls” in the plane. In a report in May, the auditor said that the plane wasn’t as light as promised, the fuel capacity and speed were lower than required and there were concerns about safety. Retired Air Marshal M Matheswaran, a former deputy chief of the Integrated Defence Staff, said the LCA was obsolete. “It is a very short-range aircraft which has no relevance in today’s war fighting scenarios. If you are trying to justify this as a replacement for follow-on Rafales, you are comparing apples with oranges.”

He said the plane was at best a technology demonstrator on which Indian engineers could build the next series of aircraft, not something the air force could win a war with. “We would like to have the MMRCA (Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft) variety of aircraft. At least about six squadrons, to my mind,” the head of the Air Force, Arup Raha, said at the weekend, referring to the Rafale class of fighters.

But K. Tamilmani, the DRDO’s aerospace chief, said the modified version of the Tejas addressed most of the air force concerns. These included electronic warfare system, flight computer, radar and maintenance problems. “Almost all the problems get solved with the 1A. There will always be scope for improvement, but there are no flight safety issues,” he said.

State-run Hindustan Aeronautics Limited would be able to ramp production to 16 a year by 2017 to meet the Air Force’s demands, he said. “We Indians are extremely good at blaming each other – at blaming it all on Indian production.” Dassault declined any comment on the government’s decision to cap the Rafale fleet. A source close to Sweden’s Saab, which has been pushing its Gripen light fighter, said that it was respectful of India’s decision to try to develop its domestic military base.

“There’s still a huge gap that needs to be filled. We are marketing it (the Gripen) under the Make-in-India umbrella,” he said. “Even if you add the seven squadrons of the Tejas, there is still a requirement (with MiGs retiring etc). It’s a question of timing. Can they build these for when they need them?”

Inclusion of Tejas (LCA) will further weaken IAF: Military Circles - Nagpur Today : Nagpur News
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I'm actually sorry to see the LCA not getting love from your military after so many years of development. Latest & greatest doesn't pay all the time, sometimes, you need to bite the bullet & tough it out if you want your aviation industry to have a fighting chance.
 
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I dont get it , out of 53 issues 42 have been addressed. And tejas is not replacement for Rafale, its for MIG-21.
It s short range plane indeed which is meant for point defence .
Sorry but most issues are not addessed the claimed that 43 issues have been resloved is baseless
 
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I really admire the policy of Modi of Make-in-India that is surely to give courage, confidence & trust to local scientists to deliver something good. The hype that is being created seems all related to those kickbacks lovers who are seeing their shop closed when India turns its focus towards indigenous production of high level combat fighter aircraft and other sophisticated equipment necessary for the Indian Army. I think Modi should stick to his policy and ignore the roar of anti indigenous mafia that is keeping India behind in Military production field just because of their greed for kick backs & personal benefits. As a Pakistani I must say that this step of Narendra Modi deserves appreciation rather than blind criticism
 
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I'm actually sorry to see the LCA not getting love from your military after so many years of development. Latest & greatest doesn't pay all the time, sometimes, you need to bite the bullet & tough it out if you want your aviation industry to have a fighting chance.

Most western companies will lose a big market & import lobbyists will lose kickback share. Hence the synchronised shrill outcry over the last two days.

Govt. has taken a good decision and should stand by it.
 
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Most western companies will lose a big market & import lobbyists will lose kickback share. Hence the synchronised shrill outcry over the last two days.

Govt. has taken a good decision and should stand by it.

The LCA is going through it's birth pain now, best way to kill it by highlighting all it's problems. But which country's fighters doesn't go through the same process? The sky's the limit has been the exclusive domain of western nations, it is always good to see Asian nations break that stranglehold & take flight.

All the best!
 
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Try to read ,Article was suggesting in the end IAF decided to go for LCA bas they consider it superior over thunder.
Are you saying thunder is superior to Rafale? Because thats what these presstitutes are comparing LCA to.
 
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Tejas is a replacement for mig 21&27. So these desi journalist has nothing to cry over. These morons comparing tejas with rafale don't have the slightest idea that both are of different category. Once tejas becomes operational I'm sure if will like it. As for mmrca let us see how much the fund allows us to buy rafale. If not rafale then may be f16in (most probably). Tejas will fulfill falling sqaudrons
 
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New Delhi/ Nagpur: Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s forcing the Indian Air Force to include Tejas, light combat aircraft (LCA) under his ambitious scheme Make-in-India, will cause tremendous threat to Air Force, which is looking out for upgradation of its striking capacity and trying for acquisition of Rafale aircrafts from France’s Dassault Aviation SA, will prove dangerous, said media reports quoting Military Circles.
According to reports, Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s decision, in line with his Make-in-India policy to encourage domestic industry, will cause a blow for not only the French manufacturer but also others circling over the Indian military aviation market worth billions of dollars. Tejas (LCA) is still in the struggling stage and its inclusion comes at a time when the Air Force is at its weakest operational strength since the 1962 war against China, which is causing anxiety within Military Circles.

Advertisement

Modi government’s claim

But it has a different view point for Modi government. Since it took over last year, the Modi administration has repeatedly said that its overriding goal was to cut off the military’s addiction to foreign arms, which has made it the world’s top importer, sources said.

Advertisement

The Air Force wanted the government to clear an additional squadron of 44 Rafale medium multi-role aircraft on top of the 36 that Modi announced during a visit to Paris this year that are to be bought off-the-shelf to meet its urgent requirements. But, a Defence Ministry official said that Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar had told the Air Force that there weren’t enough funds to expand the Rafale acquisition and that it must induct an improved version of the indigenously manufactured Tejas-Mark 1A. “The IAF needs to have a minimum number of aircraft at all times. The LCA is our best option at this stage, given our resource constraints,” the Defence official told the media, adding, “The Rafale is our most expensive acquisition. The LCA is our cheapest in the combat category.”

India’s Air Force says, its requires 45 fighter squadrons to counter a “two-front collusive threat” from Pakistan and China. But it only has 35 active fighter squadrons, Parliament’s Defence Committee said in a report in April citing a presentation by a top Air Force officer. With the draw-down of Soviet-era MiG 21 planes under way, the Air Force would be down to 25 squadrons by 2022 at the current pace of acquisitions, it told the committee.

Cleared by the government in 1983, the LCA designed by the government’s Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) was meant to be the backbone of the air force due for induction in 1994. Instead, it suffered years of delay and chaos with scientists trying to build the world’s most modern light combat aircraft from scratch, including the engine. Eventually they scrapped the engine, turning to GE Aviation and lowering their ambitions for a state-of-the-art fighter. So far, only one aircraft has been produced and even that is awaiting final operational clearance, now delayed to early 2016. “In January this year, they had given one LCA … which had not completed its flight testing. They handed over the papers to us. We do not make a squadron with one aeroplane. That is where we are,” said an Air Force officer speaking on condition of anonymity.

Safety Cocerns
An independent investigation by the Comptroller and Auditor General of India into the LCA programme identified 53 “shortfalls” in the plane. In a report in May, the auditor said that the plane wasn’t as light as promised, the fuel capacity and speed were lower than required and there were concerns about safety. Retired Air Marshal M Matheswaran, a former deputy chief of the Integrated Defence Staff, said the LCA was obsolete. “It is a very short-range aircraft which has no relevance in today’s war fighting scenarios. If you are trying to justify this as a replacement for follow-on Rafales, you are comparing apples with oranges.”

He said the plane was at best a technology demonstrator on which Indian engineers could build the next series of aircraft, not something the air force could win a war with. “We would like to have the MMRCA (Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft) variety of aircraft. At least about six squadrons, to my mind,” the head of the Air Force, Arup Raha, said at the weekend, referring to the Rafale class of fighters.

But K. Tamilmani, the DRDO’s aerospace chief, said the modified version of the Tejas addressed most of the air force concerns. These included electronic warfare system, flight computer, radar and maintenance problems. “Almost all the problems get solved with the 1A. There will always be scope for improvement, but there are no flight safety issues,” he said.

State-run Hindustan Aeronautics Limited would be able to ramp production to 16 a year by 2017 to meet the Air Force’s demands, he said. “We Indians are extremely good at blaming each other – at blaming it all on Indian production.” Dassault declined any comment on the government’s decision to cap the Rafale fleet. A source close to Sweden’s Saab, which has been pushing its Gripen light fighter, said that it was respectful of India’s decision to try to develop its domestic military base.

“There’s still a huge gap that needs to be filled. We are marketing it (the Gripen) under the Make-in-India umbrella,” he said. “Even if you add the seven squadrons of the Tejas, there is still a requirement (with MiGs retiring etc). It’s a question of timing. Can they build these for when they need them?”

Inclusion of Tejas (LCA) will further weaken IAF: Military Circles - Nagpur Today : Nagpur News
@nair @Horus @Oscar @Jango @GURU DUTT @Areesh @AUz @MilSpec @AUSTERLITZ @Chanakya's_Chant @third eye @Hindustani78 @Water Car Engineer
Nagpur news :D
 
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I really admire the policy of Modi of Make-in-India that is surely to give courage, confidence & trust to local scientists to deliver something good. The hype that is being created seems all related to those kickbacks lovers who are seeing their shop closed when India turns its focus towards indigenous production of high level combat fighter aircraft and other sophisticated equipment necessary for the Indian Army. I think Modi should stick to his policy and ignore the roar of anti indigenous mafia that is keeping India behind in Military production field just because of their greed for kick backs & personal benefits. As a Pakistani I must say that this step of Narendra Modi deserves appreciation rather than blind criticism
Yes it should be appreciated that he is making sure that Indian Air Forces looses all of its edge and has to face disaster in case of war. As a Pakistan I salute his hilarious moves and I hope he continues on this path of making sure Indian Forces are in most miserable position in coming years.
 
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