Imran Khan trying to take credit of Karachi improved security: Nawaz Sharif

[March]

Partially correct. But did Mushi not support "good taliban"? It was what led to post 2005 problems. They came back to hunt us. It is not the US fault for the terror we see today. Even if we did not support US war on terror and continued to fund "Good taliban," our children will still be dying.

I see civilian gov't as being not fully functional (current one), but I also see military regime not being the solution to it.

Personally, I'd say that Musharraf had no choice. The US War on Terror had to be supported or else Pakistan would've been invaded as well. This was admitted by Musharraf when he stated that Assistant Secretary of State Richard Armitage threatened to "bomb Pakistan back to the Stone Age". However, the Afghan Taliban also had to be supported against the Northern Alliance because the latter was aligned with India. If the Taliban had not been supported, then the Northern Alliance would've been much stronger today and would've acted as an Indian client state, playing a major in the Indian containment of Pakistan.

A military dictatorship is never the answer... A weak civilian government is frowned upon. However, if we were to gain a strong civilian government, then surely, we would be able to find success. I'd say that the only government in the history of Pakistan which perhaps played the role of a 'strong civilian government' would've been Pakistan under Zulfikar A. Bhutto.

 

[WAJsal]

outsiders claiming city belong to me

Karachi is a part of Pakistan you genius , it's every ones city.

 

[notorious_eagle]

Oh yea? How come your beloved army finally got its act together during Nawaz era?

Simple, because Raheel Sharif is the COAS. His policy from Day 1 is very clear, END TO ALL TERRORISM. The first two years of the PML-N Government, barely any progress was made and killings in Karachi were at its peak. It was only after Raheel Sharif and Rizwan Akthar put their foot down, the Federal Government was forced to act. They pretty much didn't give the Federal Government any option, they made it clear that we will clear Karachi, get with the program. PML-N Government to this day does not want to unsettle MQM and create panic in Karachi, this is why they still haven't removed the Governor.

Why didn't the generals during Mushy/Zaradri do anything about Karachi?

Politics, Mushy needed MQM and Kayani wanted to keep MQM as an ally. The current top brass of the Army does not want to play politics, they just want to get rid of Terrorism.

Why didn't the army carry out an operation under PPP's rule?

Read above, Kayani wanted to keep MQM as an ally.

 

[WishLivePak]

Simple, because Raheel Sharif is the COAS. His policy from Day 1 is very clear, END TO ALL TERRORISM. The first two years of the PML-N Government, barely any progress was made and killings in Karachi were at its peak. It was only after Raheel Sharif and Rizwan Akthar put their foot down, the Federal Government was forced to act. They pretty much didn't give the Federal Government any option, they made it clear that we will clear Karachi, get with the program. PML-N Government to this day does not want to unsettle MQM and create panic in Karachi, this is why they still haven't removed the Governor.



Politics, Mushy needed MQM and Kayani wanted to keep MQM as an ally. The current top brass of the Army does not want to play politics, they just want to get rid of Terrorism.



Read above, Kayani wanted to keep MQM as an ally.

PML govt doesn't care about MQM. They're not allies. PML already launched operation back in 90s and also dismissed its own govt later on.

If Nawaz wanted, he could've chosen a weaker general. But he chose someone who could fight terrorism. Raheal didn't choose himself, Nawaz chose him for the post of COAS.

 

[notorious_eagle]

PML govt doesn't care about MQM. They're not allies. PML already launched operation back in 90s and also dismissed its own govt later on.

They care because if MQM is weakened, PTI will fill that vacuum. Also, operation against MQM can result in a blow back which will destabilize Karachi which the PML-N Government is desperate to avoid.

If Nawaz wanted, he could've chosen a weaker general. But he chose someone who could fight terrorism. Raheal didn't choose himself, Nawaz chose him for the post of COAS.

The List that was sent to him did not contain any weaker General, the top 5 most Senior Generals were all extremely competent with very distinguished careers behind them. NS did not have much of a choice to promote a weaker General, he could have only done it if he would have appointed someone Junior like he did with Musharraf.

 

[WishLivePak]

They care because if MQM is weakened, PTI will fill that vacuum. Also, operation against MQM can result in a blow back which will destabilize Karachi which the PML-N Government is desperate to avoid.



The List that was sent to him did not contain any weaker General, the top 5 most Senior Generals were all extremely competent with very distinguished careers behind them. NS did not have much of a choice to promote a weaker General, he could have only done it if he would have appointed someone Junior like he did with Musharraf.

Wow, so a loss of MQM automatically means win for PTI? What rubbish is this.

Let me tell you. There exists other parties, like PPP, JI and PML itself. PML is already spending money for development using federal gov't, so that can woo people. Also they allowed military operation to be launched, for which many people may also vote. Finally, PML and PPP can form coalition. And lets not forget, just because MQM gets many people arrested, it does not mean the end of party. It will continue to win seats, not as many before, and also under different leadership.

If all were extremely competent, I wonder why the two most seniors were not made COAS instead. Yeah, there were other reasons, but you're just spewing opinion rather than facts.

One thing is a fact. Nawaz launched operation against MQM back in 90s, dismissed his Sindh gov't. Musharraf, an army person, gives MQM power and governorship. Kayani continues to give free hand. In comes Nawaz and again there is operation against MQM. We have a guy who launched operation twice and dismissed his gov't, a decision every time he got elected. Yet you have military who for nearly 15 years empowered MQM and refused to touch them.

 

[Musafir117]

and crediting game continue......
Neutrality in war: Imran takes credit for parliament’s verdict on Yemen - The Express Tribune

 

[SBD-3]

same old bullshit from Nawaz Sharif who cares..... Dont forget PMLN is supporting MQM in NA246 along with PPP.

Really? PPP has declared neutrility on record in NA 246. PTI cant even motivate their allies aka JI to retire in their favor.

 

[mr42O]

JI and PTI are allies in KPK. And its democracy not Pakistan Metro League lolz

Really? PPP has declared neutrility on record in NA 246. PTI cant even motivate their allies aka JI to retire in their favor.

 

[batmannow]

JI and PTI are allies in KPK. And its democracy not Pakistan Metro League lolz

Sure PTI & JI are best of UTRUN league ?lolzzz

 

[mr42O]

Sure PTI & JI are best of UTRUN league ?lolzzz

coming from MQM supporter lolz

 

[SBD-3]

JI and PTI are allies in KPK. And its democracy not Pakistan Metro League lolz

To pehlay apnay Allies ko to manalo. Ghar walay kafir aur zamanay ko Musalman karnay chalay

 

[mr42O]

To pehlay apnay Allies ko to manalo. Ghar walay kafir aur zamanay ko Musalman karnay chalay

Once again its democratic country we are not talking about Sharif kingdom lolz. But can a darbari understand that ?

 

[SBD-3]

Once again its democratic country we are not talking about Sharif kingdom lolz. But can a darbari understand that ?

Failure ko democracy kay parday main chupanay ki koshish

 

[mr42O]

Failure ko democracy kay parday main chupanay ki koshish

Mere paas chawal sawalo ka jawab dene ka time nahi