Imran khan have no balls .....

[Ra's al Ghul]

Many lives will be lost.
Are you willing to lay your life on the the line for freedom

i am ready.

Army needs to be enlightened not fought. Khan is doing the that

army is a baby ?

He's already done what your suggesting, he held long march and it ended badly and IK had to back off, why should IK make the same mistake again. Do you want him to fail again because no more than 40K people turn up out of 220M+. That's not a revolutionary march.

At the moment he is pressurising the establishment to hold a dialogue with him so a solution can be found and then new elections will be held. The real power is not PDM but the neutrals, you need their support to make changes in Pakistan and the neutrals are pressurised by the international establishment to tow their line.

IK needs to agree with the establishment regarding foreign policy, relations and internal security, he will then be back as PM celebrating victory and naya Pakistan.

if you play establishment game you wont win. they have done this before many times. the trick is dont play there game. play your own game outside of establishment rule.

 

[SIPRA]

IK is following the right course, keeping in view the psyche, potential and power of the people, who support him.

 

[Ra's al Ghul]

Being middle class
I can understand that but last time imran Khan tried to run over Islamabad with public
Government used all state resources on public and security forces unleashed hell on women and common citizens.

It's military high command who needs to understand the suffering of common man because security forces works on their order and they're the one protecting this PDM government all this time
But Guess what they don't care about common citizens they're busy in their games

And public can't afford to pick weapon and attack anyone coming in their way
This will further worsen the situation for country and eventually public

they wont understand, they live in thre own world DHA. you need to run over that too.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

but he talk too much and i see no practical at all

This is one of the reasons I don't support him, as they say, talk is cheap.

he had chances to run over this imported govt but he didnt do it

He is not a politician, especially since march he has done nothing right.

PDM is effing screwing common man. forget about 2 times meal.

This Govt is far worst than the previous regime to date. I am deeply frustrated with their mode of governess. Zardari has killed two birds with one stone.

no one is interested to help awam. forget pdm. no fauj. no pti. no ji, no tlp. none are interested to listen anything.

Sad affairs of state in Pakistan, Allah please help us and forgive our sins.

i think its the last chance PTI has right now. call the awam to run over islamabad and end the PDM.

He is probably going to jail/disqualified and he knows it. Even if PTI wins by two-thirds they will still not be able to fix the economy in the short term.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

This is one of the reasons I don't support him, as they say, talk is cheap.

He is not a politician, especially since march he has done nothing right.

This Govt is far worst than the previous regime to date. I am deeply frustrated with their mode of governess. Zardari has killed two birds with one stone.

Sad affairs of state in Pakistan, Allah please help us and forgive our sins.

He is probably going to jail/disqualified and he knows it. Even if PTI wins by two-thirds they will still not be able to fix the economy in the short term.

As long as Zardari and Sharif clan is eliminated for good, the economy can take a back seat for the next 10 years. All will be forgiven.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

As long as Zardari and Sharif clan is eliminated for good, the economy can take a back seat for the next 10 years. All will be forgiven.

If Imran had been a true leader and politician many including me would have supported him. For me, he has been a total WASTE OF TIME for the nation. Unless we produce leaders from the grass roots we are going to get the same political families all the time.

 

[SIPRA]

As long as Zardari and Sharif clan is eliminated for good, the economy can take a back seat for the next 10 years. All will be forgiven.

... And Mir Bajwa Clan, whatever it is.

 

[Asimzranger]

where do you live in karachi bro

daily food bill did increase so much that no one can escape it better to help eachother out

 

[Ra's al Ghul]

where do you live in karachi bro

daily food bill did increase so much that no one can escape it better to help eachother out

near airport colony.

 

[PakAlp]

With this sort of political instability every 4th year will never let you have economic stability
Never letting any PM complete his isn't helpful to Pakistan but only to military
Pakistan was close to 400 bilion Dollars GDP with 5.5+% for consecutive years for first time and 30+ billion growth
Someone didn't like this and try to sell narrative of country getting Bankcorrupt due to IK.

It's more of military own problems than foreign pressure when they see someone else getting more control and consolidating power they sideline him and try to get him in control

And please don't act like if khan would have remained in power west would have sanctioned us like Russia korea or Iran and completely shutting us down

I agree, it was treacherous to remove IK government who were doing well. I was surprised how they dealt with Coronavirus pandemic. Normally we would have been the worse but PTI clever policies saved us.

No west would have not sanctioned Pakistan like Russia but the establishment and western powers didn't like IK speeches to international audience, plus the nail in the coffin for not condemning Russia. I agree with IK but I am just saying establishment was panicking and this is why Bajwa gave a speech calling Russian war as aggression etc. IK was claiming we are neutral because illegal Iraq and Afghanistan wars took place but noone condemned them. Maybe international big players made threats of sanctions and isolations, even our so called brothers Saudia made threats when PM was planning to go Malaysia conference, he had to cancel and backtrack. I am sure Pakistan powerful people have billions invested in the western world and one phone call would burst the bubbles of Pakistan first policy.

 

[PakAlp]

I used to believe that too. But, I fail to see how their little adventure recently helps with that. Everything was going perfectly. We'd just survived a once in a century pandemic with flying colors after having prevent a default in 2018. Now, if you think it's because IK was being stubborn regarding giving bases to the US. Fine. But, why were they shielding the chors from accountability all this time. Which leads me to believe that they feared for their own hide as they are not the saints we thought of them. They are part of the same elite IK wants to cut down to size. Their number just hadn't come up yet. Otherwise, if they seemed pretty okay with PPP rule when the things you mentioned weren't so great and with PMLN rule when they were bleeding the reserves dry and piling up circular debt.

THIS, brother. They want to keep playing God and pit one against the other where needed. IK, by the grace of Allah, has gotten so big, he threatens that position. and they are fighting back out of the self preservation instinct, not because of their magnanimity and desire for the betterment of this country and it's good relations with the world/US.

What do you suppose will happen when IK wins 2/3rd majority and comes back to power? You fear he'll not get along with the US. The US too will have to deal with him one way or the other. It's a two way street.

Dr Tahir ul Qadri and IK long marches were blessed by the establishment, they wanted a change, new party to come and make better governance. I believe this is what General Musharaff was talking about when he said we need a middle way between PMLN and PPP and that's exactly what happened. It was PPP v PMLN for 2 decades and now its PPP, PMlN v PTI.

Not just about the bases but other issues with foreign policy, relations. I dont believe IK was incorrect but obviously establishment and our secret agencies disagreed.

Not my fear but the establishment fear, its not just Usa but its allies, Europe and powerful gulf states. Nobody wants to see a powerful independent Pakistan to rise, the establishment doesn't want to upset them so are following their orders.

I think PTI and IK will be back in power but he needs some type of agreements with the establishment. Nawaz Sharif too had disagreements and he wouldn't listen and look how he was removed and now is in London. We all celebrated his removal but now IK is in the exact same position.

Block the ports, highway's through protest movement, TLP style but a little less violent , you don't need to March towards Islamabad

Just in your local cities, block down the country

Little less violence will not take place when the security forces will throw tear gas, acid gas and beat you up with sticks and then shoot at you. When family members or friends are shot then trust me they will fight back with bricks and sticks. TLP didn't use violence at first but when they were slaughtered then people fought back, 36 of their members were killed but noone cares.

 

[Maea]

Why are you making such idiotic statements?
The common misconception here is that somehow men who grew up in elite families and enjoyed lavish lifestyles know the pains and sufferings of a common pakistanis is beyond ridiculous.
My brother, only we know how it feels to be helpless, people who live in palaces dont know. My humble suggestion is, do not rally behind a man who lies and not keep his promises.
Many members dont like me, im fine with that, but they fail to realize that i do not support any political party, bcz if you remove your bias you will realize that they are all same.

 

[maithil]

Use Netherlands model.. Block supplies to Elite's superstores. When they feel the same pain, they will force government to do something. Block entries to your Finance minister's factories and force it to shut down. He will act only when he faces financial ruin.

 

[villageidiot]

Dr Tahir ul Qadri and IK long marches were blessed by the establishment, they wanted a change, new party to come and make better governance.

They probably supported the two but not out of their benevolence and desire for a better Pakistan. But for the same reason, as I stated above.

Not just about the bases but other issues with foreign policy, relations. I dont believe IK was incorrect but obviously establishment and our secret agencies disagreed.

I said bases because the bases were just the most glaring example. Personally, I think IK should've been more flexible too but after seeing the establishments reaction, I say fk em.

Not my fear but the establishment fear, its not just Usa but its allies, Europe and powerful gulf states. Nobody wants to see a powerful independent Pakistan to rise, the establishment doesn't want to upset them so are following their orders.

THIS RIGHT HERE. Nobody wants a powerful Pakistan, and Pakistani establishment is ensuring that.

I think PTI and IK will be back in power but he needs some type of agreements with the establishment. Nawaz Sharif too had disagreements and he wouldn't listen and look how he was removed and now is in London. We all celebrated his removal but now IK is in the exact same position.

Gonna have to disagree here. Nawaz sharif is a coward and not a leader. IK won't be running to london unless he plans to quit politics completely.

Little less violence will not take place when the security forces will throw tear gas, acid gas and beat you up with sticks and then shoot at you. When family members or friends are shot then trust me they will fight back with bricks and sticks. TLP didn't use violence at first but when they were slaughtered then people fought back, 36 of their members were killed but noone cares.

One would expect the benefactor of Pakistan to be considerate of this eventuality more than the general public. How far are they going to go to ensure they remain in the good graces of the west. Is their goal really the slow and steady progress of Pakistan or are they just trying to protect the status quo?

 

[Dalit]

The high command fears international powers, they want to implement policy of staying quiet and slowly improving your weak country, slowly improving economy, military, imports, exports etc. They don't want confrontation with the west and then upset uncle Sam and allies, we forget that even our so called brotherly gulf states are with the USA and West. What outcome will Pakistan face? Who will invest? Who will you trade with? What natural resources you have? Inventions? Technology?

IK should tell the nation how will he deal with these problems if he wants to stand up for Pakistan and put Pakistan first. I am sure the establishment must have billions of investments in the west? Does IK have alternative plans where Pakistan will not suffer and will continue to grow to stay rivals with India.

I am not saying establishment is correct but I believe this is what the High Command agree upon and this is why they all support Bajwa, you cannot blame one General, they're the most professional, disciplined, educated people in Pakistan and they make decisions based on the policy they agree on.

In other words, the life of a jackal is worth a millions times more than that of a lion.

I wonder if the establishment is so helpless and fearful of the international order why not simply follow all their demands? Why pick and choose? Removal of Imran Khan is just one tiny wish the Western powers have. Their wish list goes way beyond that.