Imran Khan Answers his Religious critics in this New interview.

[khawaja07]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=976846952344973

 

[Armstrong]

I don't agree with the Ahmediya Creed but I want the Second Amendment to be repealed !

@Jazzbot @HRK - Khan nei disappoint kiyaa !

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

I don't agree with the Ahmediya Creed but I want the Second Amendment to be repealed !

@Jazzbot @HRK - Khan nei disappoint kiyaa !

What's the second Amendment?

 

[Armstrong]

What's the second Amendment?

It declared Ahmedis as Non Muslims !

 

[Norwegian]

If IK is for justice, first thing he has gotta do is to remove anti-Qadiani bigotry from constitution of Pakistan. It was PPP and later Zia's Islamization policies that destroyed secular irreligious nature of our once prosperous state of the 60's. IK often quotes 60's as the best times of our history in his speeches. If so, then he has got to repeal those acts of constitution that are unjustified in constitution of Pakistan.

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

It declared Ahmedis as Non Muslims !

That's a religious matter has nothing to do with Government or the Constitution IMO, but I don't know much about yours.

 

[Armstrong]

That's a religious matter has nothing to do with Government or the Constitution IMO, but I don't know much about yours.

Thats precisely what Our Father said :".......Now, if we want to make this great State of Pakistan happy and prosperous, we should wholly and solely concentrate on the well-being of the people, and especially of the masses and the poor. If you will work in co-operation, forgetting the past, burying the hatchet, you are bound to succeed. If you change your past and work together in a spirit that every one of you, no matter to what community he belongs, no matter what relations he had with you in the past, no matter what is his colour, caste, or creed, is first, second, and last a citizen of this State with equal rights, privileges, and obligations, there will be no end to the progress you will make.

I cannot emphasize it too much. We should begin to work in that spirit, and in course of time all these angularities of the majority and minority communities, the Hindu community and the Muslim community -- because even as regards Muslims you have Pathans, Punjabis, Shias, Sunnis and so on, and among the Hindus you have Brahmins, Vashnavas, Khatris, also Bengalees, Madrasis and so on -- will vanish. Indeed if you ask me, this has been the biggest hindrance in the way of India to attain the freedom and independence, and but for this we would have been free people long long ago. No power can hold another nation, and specially a nation of 400 million souls, in subjection; nobody could have conquered you, and even if it had happened, nobody could have continued its hold on you for any length of time, but for this. Therefore, we must learn a lesson from this. You are free; you are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place or worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed -- that has nothing to do with the business of the State. As you know, history shows that in England conditions, some time ago, were much worse than those prevailing in India today. The Roman Catholics and the Protestants persecuted each other. Even now there are some States in existence where there are discriminations made and bars imposed against a particular class. Thank God, we are not starting in those days. We are starting in the days where there is no discrimination, no distinction between one community and another, no discrimination between one caste or creed and another. We are starting with this fundamental principle: that we are all citizens, and equal citizens, of one State........."

Mr. Jinnah's address to the Constituent Assembly of Pakistan

When we buried Our Father in '48....we buried most of his ideals with him and ironically enough the same religious clerics who were vociferously against Pakistan steadily back-doored themselves into the State of Pakistan with the culmination of their efforts being the Second Amendment and other such Amendments and Clauses within the Constitution and the Society !

 

[Samandri]

It declared Ahmedis as Non Muslims !

I have strong objections over the use of word Ahmadi for qadianis. Ahmad is name of Hazrat Muhammad p.b.u.h, it shouldnt be associated with qadianis.
Mister are you aware what Hazrat Muhammad p.b.u.h and his successors did with false prophets and their followers?, they were not mercifull to it.

 

[Norwegian]

We are starting in the days where there is no discrimination, no distinction between one community and another, no discrimination between one caste or creed and another. We are starting with this fundamental principle: that we are all citizens, and equal citizens, of one State.........

There was NO discrimination in Jinnah's first cabinet. Here is a list of some non-Muslims hand picked by Jinnah to administer Pakistan:
Jogendra Nath Mandal Minister for Labour and Law (Hindu)
Muhammad Zafrullah Khan was inducted as Minister for Foreign Affairs and Commonwealth relations (Qadiani)
Sir Frederick Bourne was the Governor of East Bengal, Sir Francis Mudie the Governor of West Punjab and Sir George Cunningham the Governor of N.W.F.P. (Christian and British)
And here is a quote on this cabinet's performance:
James A. Michener, a visitor to Pakistan in the early years, wrote, “I have never seen so hardworking a government as Pakistan’s. It is literally licking itself by its own intellectual book-straps”.
First Cabinet (1947) | History PakHistory Pak

Now compare first cabinet of Pakistan composed of many non-Muslims with the kind of extreme Muslim cabinets that came after Islamic supremacist Objectives Resolution was passed under Liaquat Ali Khan's administration (after death of Jinnah) and its response by a non-Muslim minister of the opposition:

In my conception of state where people of different religion live there is no place for religion in the state. Its position must be neutral: no bias for any religion. If necessary, it should help all the religions equally. No question of concession or tolerance to any religion. It smacks of inferiority complex. The state must respect all religions: no smiling face for one and askance look to the other. The state religion is a dangerous principle. Previous instances are sufficient to warn us not to repeat the blunder. We know people were burnt alive in the name of religion. Therefore, my conception is that the sovereignty must rest with the people and not with anybody else....[T]he words "equal rights as enunciated by Islam" are—I do not use any other word—a camouflage. It is only a hoax to us, the non-Muslims. There cannot be equal rights as enunciated by Islam. It goes without saying that by introducing the religious question, the differences between the majority and the minority are being perpetuated, for how long, nobody knows. And, as apprehended by us, the difficulty of interpretation has already arisen. The accepted principle is that the majority, by their fair treatment, must create confidence in the minority. Whereas the Honorable mover of the resolution promises respect, in place of charity or sufferance for the minority community the deputy minister, Dr. Qureshi, advises the minority to win the goodwill of the majority by their behavior. In the House of the Legislature also we find that, while the prime minister keeps perfectly to his dictum, others cannot brook that the opposition should function in the spirit of opposition. The demand is that the opposition should remain submissive. That is Dr. Qureshi’s way of thinking. The minorities must be grateful for all the benevolence they get and must never complain for the malevolence that may also be dealt out to them. That is his solution of the minority problem.
Objectives Resolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So now we know that state sponsored discrimination of Pakistani non-Muslims or minorities started with Objectives Resolution in 1949. It only got worse after Khatm-e-Nabuwwat psychos got in the picture and forced Bhutto to sign into constitution anti-Qadiani bigotry laws of Blasphemy that under Zia's regime forced them to not even call themselves 'Muslim'. Such state monopoly of religion deciding who should call himself Muslim or not is the main reason why Pakistan became a jungle of systematic unjust as we know it today. It started with the discrimination of minorities, specifically Hindus and Qadianis and later eclipsed Christians, Shias and other minorities of Pakistan leaving only Sunnis intact. Good job Pakistan - land of the pure Sunnis!

Mister are you aware what Hazrat Muhammad p.b.u.h and his successors did with false prophets and their followers?, they were not mercifull to it.

Yes, act like your prophet. Slaughter all Ahmedis, Qadianis, Shias and others who do not agree with your Wahhabi-Sunni worldview. LOL!

 

[Icewolf]

Remove Hudood Ordinance and Second Amendment. Only way Pakistan can progress in religious freedom

 

[Samandri]

Yes, act like your
prophet..

@Norwegian whats up with the tone, are you a non-muslim?
And why confusing shias with Qadianis?. Shias are muslims, qadianis are not. If you have problem with this and you believe that mirza ahmad qadiani is the last prophet, you can leave islam (you would be safe on being murtid as you live in west)

 

[INDIC]

Jogendra Nath Mandal Minister for Labour and Law (Hindu)

Later, he renounced his Pakistani nationality and returned to India.

 

[Norwegian]

@Norwegian whats up with the tone, are you a non-muslim?

No, I am not a non-Muslim, but I have the fortune of living in the best democracy of this world; Norway for many years now. I KNOW how a secular, irreligious democracy functions for ALL its citizens benefits, irrespective of the person's color, cast or creed. Here, the state or government doesn't ask for your religion, ethnicity or background before handing out social security, education, work and other welfare goods that our citizens enjoy just for being here in this wonderful country.

And why confusing shias with Qadianis?. Shias are muslims, qadianis are not. If you have problem with this and you believe that mirza ahmad qadiani is the last prophet, you can leave islam (you would be safe on being murtid as you live in west)

LOL! In Shia majority Iran; Sunnis, Christians and Baha'is are persecuted on daily basis because they belong to a minority religion that has political problems with Shia dominated theocracy of the country.
In Saudi Arabia, its the same problem, only this time minority roles are switched from Sunnis to Shias. The rest remains the same.
Moving along to Pakistan, another Islamic democracy; Qadianis, Shias are persecuted on the basis of their religion while persecution against Christians also happen from time to time by abuse of notorious Blasphemy Laws!

Ever wondered why no such thing ever happens in the liberal West? Because the Westerners understood long time ago that religion has always been used by clergy as political tool to control the gullible masses, that's why they SEPARATED church from the politics. So even if a Western country declared Christianity as its official religion, its only in name and has no practical value. Same cannot be said about so-called Islamic "democracies" where religion is ab(used) for political control and oppression against the "undesired" elements of society.

Later, he renounced his Pakistani nationality and returned to India.

He was the first Pakistani non-Muslim to protest against Islamization of Pakistan from being a liberal secular country envisioned by Jinnah, founder of Pakistan.

 

[Samandri]

@Norwegian please get your facts straight. Qadianis are declared non-muslims for a reason, they believe in their own prophet of 18th century, dont confuse and mix them with shias, a sect of islam. Ask a shia whether he believes in Mirza qadiani's faith , he would say no. That being said, Qadianis are pakistanis, just like christians, sikhs, hindus and other religous minorities.

 

[INDIC]

He was the first Pakistani non-Muslim to protest against Islamization of Pakistan from being a liberal secular country envisioned by Jinnah, founder of Pakistan.

Weren't those leaders who brought Islamization close aides of Jinnah like Liaquat Ali Khan and can also tell me how you going to create a secular Pakistan on the basis of Two nation theory.