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Images show madrasa buildings standing after Indian attack claim

So Pakistan would allow journalists to visit a JeM run madrassa or according to Indian intelligence, a JeM camp. Aaafff cooaaarrssseee.

Good, at least u agree JeM had a training camp running. DG ISPR stated that there is no JeM in Pakistan, so he has been caught lying thrice in past one week, (the second pilot, F-16 and now JeM). And obviously we should believe that guy when he said no damage was done to the structure.

The world knows the intended target.
The world also saw 4x craters made by the bombs 150-200m west of the target.
The world also found debris of Spice-2000 SOW(s) at the craters.
The world says that there has been no significant damage to the intended target.
The world says that IAF missed its intended targets.
The world is not convinced that 8000lbs of total ordinance left a 30x30m non-hardened structure intact.

8000Ibs is the weight of the missile not the warhead. Most of weight consists of hardened casing in order to enable the missile to pierce through concrete roofs or bunkers. The entry point is visible on the sattelite images and the building didn't blow up because probably it was not a closed structure which reduced the impact of blast waves.
And speaking of foreign journalist, there is an Italian investigative journalist who has interviewed people like JuD chief before, exposed the money laundering route through Italy which finances Jehadi organizations in Pakistan, speaks fluent Urdu and was also jailed by Pakistani authorities. She has claimed that her sources confirm at least 30 to 35 terrorist were eliminated. Then there is a Pakistani journalist who released the audio tape of JeM cheif's brother who is heard confirming the strikes
 
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https://in.reuters.com/article/indi...CN1QO26W?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter

It is the third time in the past nine days that Reuters reporters have visited the area – and each time the path up to what villagers say was a religious school run at one time by militant group Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) and what the Indian government says was a “terrorist” training camp - was blocked.

India’s Foreign Secretary Vijay Gokhale said on the day of the strike that it had killed “a very large number of Jaish-e-Mohammed terrorists, trainers, senior commanders, and groups of jihadis” at the alleged training camp.

The Pakistani security officials guarding the way to the site cited “security concerns” for denying access. They stuck to the Pakistani government’s position ever since the Indian attack on Feb. 26 that no damage was caused to any buildings and there was no loss of life. :lol: :lol: :lol:

In Islamabad, the military’s press wing has twice called off visits to the site for weather and organisational reasons and an official said no visit would be possible for a few days more due to security issues.
 
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And most importantly, how many journalist have been allowed to go inside the madrassa to see if there is any damage? Zero



The link I provided also does that. Btw why hasn't the Pakistani army allowed anyone inside the actual site in question? Doesn't it bother you? It's not a military installation after all, just a madrassa.

If India can release IAF airstrike during Kargil war why it cant show recent strike footage?
 
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Video was for educational purpose.

It shows how the SPIC 2000 would penetrate the roof and blow up inside, leaving the roof and walls intact.
No, it shows how a SDB-I would penetrate the ~2 meter thick roof of a Hardened Aircraft Shelter without walls on two sides allowing blast over-pressure to dissipate quickly.
Good, at least u agree JeM had a training camp running. DG ISPR stated that there is no JeM in Pakistan, so he has been caught lying thrice in past one week, (the second pilot, F-16 and now JeM). And obviously we should believe that guy when he said no damage was done to the structure.
Pfffft, going off on a tangent, are we? Don't take Pakistan's word on the damage. Ask the goras, they're the ones who are belittling you, not us.

8000Ibs is the weight of the missile not the warhead. Most of weight consists of hardened casing in order to enable the missile to pierce through concrete roofs or bunkers. The entry point is visible on the sattelite images and the building didn't blow up because probably it was not a closed structure which reduced the impact of blast waves.
And speaking of foreign journalist, there is an Italian investigative journalist who has interviewed people like JuD chief before, exposed the money laundering route through Italy which finances Jehadi organizations in Pakistan, speaks fluent Urdu and was also jailed by Pakistani authorities. She has claimed that her sources confirm at least 30 to 35 terrorist were eliminated. Then there is a Pakistani journalist who released the audio tape of JeM cheif's brother who is heard confirming the strikes
1. Its not a missile. Stop calling Spice-2000 a missile. Its a stand-off guidance kit for dumb bombs.
2. The said structure DID NOT need a penetration weapon (aka bunker buster). It was NON-HARDENED. A simple delay fuse would've achieved the same effects. IAF would be stupid to use a penetrator here.
3. You conveniently skipped my point where I said that half of the total ordinance was explosive (4000lbs), which is true for a general purpose bomb.
4. Assuming they were BLU-109 like bunker busters, they still have 530lbs of explosive ordinance each! That is 2000lbs of total explosive supposedly detonated inside that building, leaving the structure intact.
5. A residential structure, at a place where it gets freezing cold...was not closed. Interesting.
6. That is ONE relatively unknown journalist claiming that.
7. Strikes were confirmed, any sort of damage was not.

In all my life, I never imagined that Indians would be so gullible to go to such lengths to justify themselves.
 
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Let me guess. Ajai Shukla, Vipin Narang, Jeffery Lewis, Gerry Doyle, Michael Sheldon (DFR Lab @ Atlantic Council), Australian Strategic Policy Institute, Reuters...all are PR agents of Pakistan, right?

Hahaha, so a non-hardened structure's roof is intact, but the trees (OUTSIDE THE FREAKING STRUCTURE) have been blown away?

SPIC-2000 is a KIT, not a bomb. Its mounted on different kinds of 2000lbs dumb bombs. This is what 2000lbs JDAMs do to their targets:

Read and weep:




Agreed.
Spice 2000 is a Kit so its depends on the bomb that used .
And that means its not necessarily JDAM.It can be any other less force yet more precision right .
What if all the force just hit on the ground only ?
Nothing on structures .
 
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Correct bombs penetrate ordinary roofs and explode but 2000 pounds don't level the buildings because of vibranium

Every journalist in the world is ignorant ..all laws of physics and thermodynamics are void because indians say so..

2000 pounds is entire missile weight not explosives .Weight of body casing is veryhigh for PGM
 
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Agreed.
Spice 2000 is a Kit so its depends on the bomb that used .
And that means its not necessarily JDAM.It can be any other less force yet more precision right .
What if all the force just hit on the ground only ?
Nothing on structures .
Spice-2000 is compatible only with 2000lbs bombs. Kindly show me a 2000lbs bomb with the IAF that has less than 500lbs of explosive in it.

The only way the "hole" theory checks out is if all of them were inert. But then how do you explain 4x bombs exploding 100-200m off target?
 
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Spice-2000 is compatible only with 2000lbs bombs. Kindly show me a 2000lbs bomb with the IAF that has less than 500lbs of explosive in it.

The only way the "hole" theory checks out is if all of them were inert. But then how do you explain 4x bombs exploding 100-200m off target?

We dont know how much they used in there .20 % missed as per IAF .
But we strongly believe that the camp took some hit .Otherwise what is these much security issue PA is facing there to avoid Reuters there.
Suppose that has 500lbs in there .
What if the ammunition design in such a way that it will affect only limited area that to the ground .?
AFA we know IAF dont have us type JDAMs.
And our establishments knows how to design duumb bombs
 
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We dont know how much they used in there .20 % missed as per IAF .
But we strongly believe that the camp took some hit .Otherwise what is these much security issue PA is facing there to avoid Reuters there.
Suppose that has 500lbs in there .
What if the ammunition design in such a way that it will affect only limited area that to the ground .?
AFA we know IAF dont have us type JDAMs.
And our establishments knows how to design duumb bombs


plenty of local interviewed by international press reported only damage to some trees. Satellite imagery was also quoted by international press and they accepted what ISPR said on first day.
No one taken to local hospitals, no funerals reported from local area.


But anyways we understand you are desperate and need some solace, you are free to find solace in lies. We can't stop you.
 
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We dont know how much they used in there .20 % missed as per IAF .
But we strongly believe that the camp took some hit .Otherwise what is these much security issue PA is facing there to avoid Reuters there.
Suppose that has 500lbs in there .
What if the ammunition design in such a way that it will affect only limited area that to the ground .?
AFA we know IAF dont have us type JDAMs.
And our establishments knows how to design duumb bombs
As I said somewhere else, if PA officially denies the very existence of JeM, yet it will obviously allow foreign media inside a JeM run Madrassa...because proving India wrong is more important than saving its own face, right?

Again, please don't spin theories without backing them up. 4x 500lbs explosives going off inside a closed structure is no joke, there is no bomb that "directs" the explosive towards the ground. I'll reiterate, the only way your story checks out is if the bombs were inert. Which again raises so many questions of its own.
 
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2000 pounds is entire missile weight not explosives .Weight of body casing is veryhigh for PGM
Corect ..are you suggesting vibranium wasnt used in those houses..trust me anything above 50kg will blow these to pieces thanks to vibranium nothing happened
 
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Amazing vibranium with militants 2000 pounds proof bunkers..aljazeera confirms it
 
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