What's new

Illegal migration to China hollows north’s towns in Vietnam

TaiShang

ELITE MEMBER
Joined
Apr 30, 2014
Messages
27,848
Reaction score
70
Country
China
Location
Taiwan, Province Of China
Illegal migration to China hollows north’s towns

VietNam News
Update: July, 19/2018

Default60665708PM.jpg

Quoàng Thị Vương in Thèn Sin Commune, Tam Đường District, the northern mountainous province of Lai Châu who had illegal immigrated to China seeking for a job returned to her hometown and earned the new livelihood. — VNA/VNS Photo Việt Hoàng

Viet Nam News

LAI CHÂU — Many young people in the northern mountainous provinces of Lai Châu, Phú Thọ and Lào Cai have rushed illegally across the border to China, leaving their parents and children behind in the hopes of finding a well-paid job to improve their lives.

Most are living in poverty, and are lured across the border by brokers’ promises of jobs. Because of their illegal status, many are forced to work overtime and receive little to no payment in slave-like conditions. Some are even tortured by employers, police have said.

Figures from Lào Cai Province’s Police Department showed that more than 4,940 people have illegally crossed the border to China for work in the first three months of this year.

The situation is similar in Lai Châu Province, from which more than 2,000 people have moved illegally to China. As many as 46 people registered for family visit visas to China since the start of this year and have not returned.

Unlike Lai Châu and Lào Cai provinces, Phú Thọ does not share a border with China, but many residents nevertheless travel there in search of work. An average of nearly 500 people are reported to work illegally in China each year. Most were from remote areas of Hạ Hoà, Đoan Hùng, Tân Sơn, Thanh Sơn and Yên Lập districts.

Colonel Lò Văn Bích, deputy director of Lai Châu Province’s Police Department, told Vietnam News Agency that many people trusted brokers who promised to help them get jobs in China. They followed brokers, who were usually locals, to the border area of Lạng Sơn, Lào Cai or Quảng Ninh, and went to China via trails or rivers to avoid being caught by border guards.

Villages haunted by poverty

In Si Ma Cai District in Lào Cai Province, many rice fields are left uncultivated, covered with wild weeds, and in many houses there are only elderly people and children.

Giàng A Vảng, a 73-year-old H’Mông man in Cán Cấu Village said his son and daughter-in-law went to China for work, leaving four children at home for him to take care of.

“They did not want to leave, but we were so poor and the crop from the rice field was not enough to feed eight members,” he said.

Vảng said some villagers returned from China and said jobs were available and well-paid, so they decided to leave. They had no visas or working permits.

Vảng’s son is among 100 people who have illegally travelled to China since February.

Hảng A Tủa, chairman of Cán Cấu Commune’s People’s Committee, said that there are no jobs available for young people, while the soil contains limestone and is so nutrient-poor that it is difficult to cultivate crops on it.

In addition, Chinese employers do not require skilled labourers. Thus, many Vietnamese seize their chance to escape from poverty.

Nguyễn Hữu Hưởng, chairman of Sán Chải Commune’s People’s Committee, said in the first five months of this year, 480 people from the commune, aged between 30 and 40, sought illegal work in China. Some returned home every two weeks, and others once or twice a year.

More than 100 people left children at home alone, increasing the rate of drop-outs from schools, especially among secondary students, he said.

Reports from the commune’s secondary schools showed that 20 per cent of the total 355 students were usually absent from class.

Giàng Seo Phừ, a 13 year-old-boy, was playing the role of parent to five little kids. His parents, Giàng Seo Trá and Ly Thị Dở, went to China in February. The boy dropped out of school months ago. He spends his time picking wild vegetables, trapping mice and cooking meals for the kids.

There’s nothing valuable in the ragged and shattered house, which was covered by old awnings.

Phừ said he and his five siblings had not had a happy day with full meals since his parents left for work. The parents planted rice and corn in the small field once a year, but the yield was not enough to feed everyone.

He said he could return to school one day, when his parents got enough money.

Default(1)43482139PM.jpg

Lê Văn Sơn and his wife in Lương Sơn Commune, Yên Lập District, Phú Thọ Province have to take care of their grandchildren as their daughter-in-law was arrested for illegally immigrating to China for a job. — VNA/VNS Photo Việt Hoàng

Painful regrets

Desperate to leave poverty, many have ignored all warnings of the dangers that might befall them in China. Some have been disabled or killed at their workplaces.

Chảo Láo Sử, 27, was one of the lucky people who survived the bus accident that killed more than 20 people on the way to China in March 2015. Soon after he graduated from the Irrigation University in 2014, Sử followed local people to China with the hope of finding a well-paid job.

The accident killed three villagers who were accompanying him to China. Sử returned home with only one hand left.

“I had a very expensive lesson. I should not bet my life for that,” he said.

Nguyễn Hoàng Thanh of Phú Thọ Province’s Lệnh Khanh Commune died in an accident after only three months of work in China.

Phạm Thị Hồng, mother of Thanh, said he was the breadwinner of the family. He chose to work illegally with hope of making more money.

Tòng Văn Giót, in Than Uyên District’s Mường Cang Commune, could not sleep well since he got the information that his son had gone missing while trying to illegally migrate to China for work.

Giót suffered from a stroke and found it hard to walk around. After several months, he has not received any information about his son, or his remains.

Support needed

Colonel Bích, deputy director of Lai Châu Province’s Police Department said the police have been dealing with agents and individuals who smuggled people across the border.

The police have encouraged those who worked in China illegally and returned home to tell their stories to local people as a way of educating them about the risks illegal migrants face.

Nùng Văn Nim, deputy director of the province’s Department of Labour, Invalids and Social Affairs said the department encouraged local people to work abroad legally, and increased information about the laws of labour export for people in border areas.

In Lào Cai Province’s Si Ma Cai District, the police would come to the houses of local residents who wished to get work visas.

The authorised agencies at localities have been asked to simplify legal immigration procedures. They would create policies for those who wanted to work in China in the upcoming time to ensure their rights.

The province will enhance negotiation and sign agreements on labour management between the province and China’s bordering provinces to create a legal corridor for Vietnamese labourers. So far, more than 300 labourers have been working for a Chinese electronic assembly company with the monthly salary of 1,700 yuan (US$258).

Đinh Văn Thơ, deputy director of the provincial Department of Labour, Invalids and Social Affairs said that the department planned to create 60,000 jobs for local people in the period of 2016-20. — VNS


Read more at http://vietnamnews.vn/society/46205...hollows-norths-towns.html#PIHqHclOJvR6mWA6.99

***

Is Vietnam becoming China's Mexico (instead of Canada)?

I believe so.

@Viva_Viet , @sweetgrape , @Kai Liu , @Kiss_of_the_Dragon , @dy1022 , @AndrewJin , @Jlaw , @Mista
 
. .
We should build a wall as well:enjoy:
If not due to brainwashing and the natural barrier of terrain, I believe those indians will definitely cross the border to look for jobs here in China, because indians are even poorer than those from the jungle.
 
.
We should build a wall as well:enjoy:
If not due to brainwashing and the natural barrier of terrain, I believe those indians will definitely cross the border to look for jobs here in China, because indians are even poorer than those from the jungle.

indians are there already .
 
.
Nowhere Indochinese can feel at home like in Guangxi or Guangdong, because it is engraved in the genes!
hee%20hee.gif


Pretending to find its future with the sanskrit or malay and muslim dominated cultures of South East Asian nations (ASEAN) is a joke!

Therefore, the only way for Indochina is to follow the path of the European Union, with an integration in some future North East Asian Union (covering China, Taiwan, the Koreas, Japan)!


See below:
DNA is everything bro, I see that we are on the same wavelength!
Indeed, the ecosystems dictate the selection of genes. Since China (excluding the North) and Indochina (excluding the South) both share the same type of geological and biological ecosystems (humid subtropical rainforest over karstic geomorphologic landscapes, with bamboo forests), both people have developed convergent genetic solutions through Darwinian selection.

Just one example: both Chinese and Indochinese people enjoy the delicate fragrance of the jackfruits and durians. But western imperialist invaders, that never encountered these delicacies during the last milleniums, simply didn't select the right genes, and their neural systems will simply detect and falsely missclassify the rich molecules of these fruits! As their brains will trigger alerts likening the molecules to putrefaction... :rofl::rofl::rofl:
Meaning that cohabitation with ethnic Europeans is simply impossible, ending with reckless bans of these fruits, if one is to live under western occupation like in South East Asia (i.e. Singapore).

Same goes for most food and everyday life products like nước mắm, Chinese coriander, bamboo shoots, camphor based balms, etc. etc...
24.gif
beat.gif



koppen_world_map_cwa_cfa-png.458984

▲ Both people live in Humid subtropical climate.

13856937667z8abqdo-jpg.458982

▲ Both people enjoy the delicate fragrance of the jackfruits.

c3874b04fac874e-jpg.458985

▲ Both people enjoy the delicate fragrance of the durians.

image_4041_2-slow-loris-jpg.458986

▲ Both people enjoy the sight of the Bee Monkey or Nycticebus coucang at dusk.

cool_thumb.gif
 
.
We should build a wall as well:enjoy:
If not due to brainwashing and the natural barrier of terrain, I believe those indians will definitely cross the border to look for jobs here in China, because indians are even poorer than those from the jungle.
True. Better watch out as Indian multiply 10x more than Chinese. Curry boys will rape and **** up your city as they are doing now in HK.

Illegal migration to China hollows north’s towns

VietNam News
Update: July, 19/2018

Default60665708PM.jpg

Quoàng Thị Vương in Thèn Sin Commune, Tam Đường District, the northern mountainous province of Lai Châu who had illegal immigrated to China seeking for a job returned to her hometown and earned the new livelihood. — VNA/VNS Photo Việt Hoàng

Viet Nam News

LAI CHÂU — Many young people in the northern mountainous provinces of Lai Châu, Phú Thọ and Lào Cai have rushed illegally across the border to China, leaving their parents and children behind in the hopes of finding a well-paid job to improve their lives.

Most are living in poverty, and are lured across the border by brokers’ promises of jobs. Because of their illegal status, many are forced to work overtime and receive little to no payment in slave-like conditions. Some are even tortured by employers, police have said.

Figures from Lào Cai Province’s Police Department showed that more than 4,940 people have illegally crossed the border to China for work in the first three months of this year.

The situation is similar in Lai Châu Province, from which more than 2,000 people have moved illegally to China. As many as 46 people registered for family visit visas to China since the start of this year and have not returned.

Unlike Lai Châu and Lào Cai provinces, Phú Thọ does not share a border with China, but many residents nevertheless travel there in search of work. An average of nearly 500 people are reported to work illegally in China each year. Most were from remote areas of Hạ Hoà, Đoan Hùng, Tân Sơn, Thanh Sơn and Yên Lập districts.

Colonel Lò Văn Bích, deputy director of Lai Châu Province’s Police Department, told Vietnam News Agency that many people trusted brokers who promised to help them get jobs in China. They followed brokers, who were usually locals, to the border area of Lạng Sơn, Lào Cai or Quảng Ninh, and went to China via trails or rivers to avoid being caught by border guards.

Villages haunted by poverty

In Si Ma Cai District in Lào Cai Province, many rice fields are left uncultivated, covered with wild weeds, and in many houses there are only elderly people and children.

Giàng A Vảng, a 73-year-old H’Mông man in Cán Cấu Village said his son and daughter-in-law went to China for work, leaving four children at home for him to take care of.

“They did not want to leave, but we were so poor and the crop from the rice field was not enough to feed eight members,” he said.

Vảng said some villagers returned from China and said jobs were available and well-paid, so they decided to leave. They had no visas or working permits.

Vảng’s son is among 100 people who have illegally travelled to China since February.

Hảng A Tủa, chairman of Cán Cấu Commune’s People’s Committee, said that there are no jobs available for young people, while the soil contains limestone and is so nutrient-poor that it is difficult to cultivate crops on it.

In addition, Chinese employers do not require skilled labourers. Thus, many Vietnamese seize their chance to escape from poverty.

Nguyễn Hữu Hưởng, chairman of Sán Chải Commune’s People’s Committee, said in the first five months of this year, 480 people from the commune, aged between 30 and 40, sought illegal work in China. Some returned home every two weeks, and others once or twice a year.

More than 100 people left children at home alone, increasing the rate of drop-outs from schools, especially among secondary students, he said.

Reports from the commune’s secondary schools showed that 20 per cent of the total 355 students were usually absent from class.

Giàng Seo Phừ, a 13 year-old-boy, was playing the role of parent to five little kids. His parents, Giàng Seo Trá and Ly Thị Dở, went to China in February. The boy dropped out of school months ago. He spends his time picking wild vegetables, trapping mice and cooking meals for the kids.

There’s nothing valuable in the ragged and shattered house, which was covered by old awnings.

Phừ said he and his five siblings had not had a happy day with full meals since his parents left for work. The parents planted rice and corn in the small field once a year, but the yield was not enough to feed everyone.

He said he could return to school one day, when his parents got enough money.

Default(1)43482139PM.jpg

Lê Văn Sơn and his wife in Lương Sơn Commune, Yên Lập District, Phú Thọ Province have to take care of their grandchildren as their daughter-in-law was arrested for illegally immigrating to China for a job. — VNA/VNS Photo Việt Hoàng

Painful regrets

Desperate to leave poverty, many have ignored all warnings of the dangers that might befall them in China. Some have been disabled or killed at their workplaces.

Chảo Láo Sử, 27, was one of the lucky people who survived the bus accident that killed more than 20 people on the way to China in March 2015. Soon after he graduated from the Irrigation University in 2014, Sử followed local people to China with the hope of finding a well-paid job.

The accident killed three villagers who were accompanying him to China. Sử returned home with only one hand left.

“I had a very expensive lesson. I should not bet my life for that,” he said.

Nguyễn Hoàng Thanh of Phú Thọ Province’s Lệnh Khanh Commune died in an accident after only three months of work in China.

Phạm Thị Hồng, mother of Thanh, said he was the breadwinner of the family. He chose to work illegally with hope of making more money.

Tòng Văn Giót, in Than Uyên District’s Mường Cang Commune, could not sleep well since he got the information that his son had gone missing while trying to illegally migrate to China for work.

Giót suffered from a stroke and found it hard to walk around. After several months, he has not received any information about his son, or his remains.

Support needed

Colonel Bích, deputy director of Lai Châu Province’s Police Department said the police have been dealing with agents and individuals who smuggled people across the border.

The police have encouraged those who worked in China illegally and returned home to tell their stories to local people as a way of educating them about the risks illegal migrants face.

Nùng Văn Nim, deputy director of the province’s Department of Labour, Invalids and Social Affairs said the department encouraged local people to work abroad legally, and increased information about the laws of labour export for people in border areas.

In Lào Cai Province’s Si Ma Cai District, the police would come to the houses of local residents who wished to get work visas.

The authorised agencies at localities have been asked to simplify legal immigration procedures. They would create policies for those who wanted to work in China in the upcoming time to ensure their rights.

The province will enhance negotiation and sign agreements on labour management between the province and China’s bordering provinces to create a legal corridor for Vietnamese labourers. So far, more than 300 labourers have been working for a Chinese electronic assembly company with the monthly salary of 1,700 yuan (US$258).

Đinh Văn Thơ, deputy director of the provincial Department of Labour, Invalids and Social Affairs said that the department planned to create 60,000 jobs for local people in the period of 2016-20. — VNS


Read more at http://vietnamnews.vn/society/46205...hollows-norths-towns.html#PIHqHclOJvR6mWA6.99

***

Is Vietnam becoming China's Mexico (instead of Canada)?

I believe so.

[]


And you are proud of this?
 
.
Ethnic minority groups living in mountainous regions constitute the majority of the poor in Vietnam. They try to escape the hardship by seeking jobs in the city yes even in China. The rice fields can feed their families. Why making joke on them? There is nothing to laugh.

Should the people laugh at Chinese migrants in Vietnam, Indonesia or elsewhere?
 
.
And you are proud of this?

No. I am worried about it. But, the news is telling and deviates radically from the narrative shared by non-native Vietnamese here on this forum.

However, I tend to believe that Vietnam becoming China's Mexico is a 100 times better option than India becoming one. And someone will have to.
 
. .
If they want to work, China should welcome them. Like the article said, government should create some migrant worker policy to eliminate human traffickers and make sure the migrants aren't abused.
 
.
Trump wall 2.0
No need. Just use armed patrols. Shoot first ask questions later

If they want to work, China should welcome them. Like the article said, government should create some migrant worker policy to eliminate human traffickers and make sure the migrants aren't abused.
Lol, it's not up to Chinese government to take care of viets..I think the US should take them in
 
.
No. I am worried about it. But, the news is telling and deviates radically from the narrative shared by non-native Vietnamese here on this forum.

However, I tend to believe that Vietnam becoming China's Mexico is a 100 times better option than India becoming one. And someone will have to.
what makes you believes Vietnam to become Mexico?

Let me guess it is your dream. You can stick your worry into elsewhere. well, NOT the narrative shared by non-native Vietnamese here but it is your hatred that makes you blind. as usual found among Chinese nationalists.
 
.
Let me guess it is your dream. You can stick your worry into elsewhere. well, NOT the narrative shared by non-native Vietnamese here but it is your hatred that makes you blind. as usual found among Chinese nationalists.

Alas bro, all those above who have expressed anti-asian and anti-indochina opinions have only disclosed their true colors as western paid poster trolls falsely masquerading behind Chinese flags, afraid of an emerging and ever more powerful North East Asia.
Not surprising the same gang was exposed lately, on other thread letting loose a spate of invectives when North Korea was warming its ties with China!

Recently, these same U.S. agents have been caught red handed in Ho Chi Minh ville, ploting anti-Chinese riots!


Court expels overseas Vietnamese for disturbing social order

July, 21/2018

HCM City – The HCM City People’s Court yesterday convicted US citizen Nguyen William Anh for disturbing social order and ordered him deported for joining a crowd that caused disorder on June 10 in HCM City.

At the court, William admitted his criminal actions and expressed his regret.

“I very much regret joining the protest. In the future, I would like to come back to Việt Nam and contribute my knowledge to the country,” he said.

The court said the defendant is a US citizen and has no right to join a protest in Việt Nam. His action was illegal and caused serious impact on social order, it said.

The charge of disturbing social order can carry a two- to a seven-year jail sentence.

However, the court decided to expel him from the country, saying that this was the first time William had violated the law and that he had expressed regret for what he had done.

William, born in 1985, began studying for his master’s degree in Singapore in 2016, and often read news on social media about Việt Nam, according to the indictment.

Through the social media, he learned about a protest in HCM City on June 10 to protest a proposed law on Special Administrative Economic Zones and the Law on Cyber Security.

William contacted the accounts of “Vi Trần” and “Anthony T. Nguyen” on the “Đô thành Sài Gòn” Facebook fanpage to find out how he could join the protest in Việt Nam.

He said that he would join the protest without identification and was ready to fight back and escape if he encountered authorities, according to the court.

William entered Việt Nam on June 9 as a tourist at HCM City’s Tân Sơn Nhất International Airport.

On June 10, William joined the crowd in causing disorder in Hoàng Văn Thụ Park in the city’s Tân Bình District, the indictment said. He took photos and posted them on his Facebook and Twitter accounts.

At the Nam Kỳ Khởi Nghĩa - Lý Chính Thắng intersection in District 3, authorities parked four pick-up trucks to stop the crowd on June 10.

William directly asked authorised forces to remove specialised vehicles to allow the crowd to pass, according to the indictment.

When his request was not met, William climbed on a specialised vehicle and called on the crowd to cross, but his effort failed.

Authorised forces recorded his acts on video, which acted as evidence of William’s disturbing social order, according to the indictment.

The city police issued emergency arrest warrants on June 12 for William, followed by a decision to place William in temporary custody and a first-time extension of temporary custody on June 14.

After collecting files and evidence, the municipal police on June 15 issued a decision on commencing criminal proceedings against and temporarily detaining William for disturbing social order. — VNS

https://vietnamnews.vn/society/4621...s-vietnamese-for-disturbing-social-order.html


r

▲ American convict William Anh Nguyen: Only missing a toothbrush moustache.

5.gif
 
.
Court expels overseas Vietnamese for disturbing social order

July, 21/2018

HCM City – The HCM City People’s Court yesterday convicted US citizen Nguyen William Anh for disturbing social order and ordered him deported for joining a crowd that caused disorder on June 10 in HCM City.

China is the key for the VCP's (hence, Vietnam's) security. Without China, VCP will be toppled via soft (yet bloody) means.

Deep down, real Vietnamese know it. The opinion of the few on this board does not reflect the reality on the ground.

They are flocking into China in droves, like Mexicans flocked to the US. Of course, China is more capable of managing the flow.

Legally, too, they are flocking into China as tourists and students, which is good for bottom-up regionalism.

That's the reality and proven by empirical data.
 
.
China is the key for the VCP's (hence, Vietnam's) security. Without China, VCP will be toppled via soft (yet bloody) means.

Deep down, real Vietnamese know it. The opinion of the few on this board does not reflect the reality on the ground.

They are flocking into China in droves, like Mexicans flocked to the US. Of course, China is more capable of managing the flow.

Legally, too, they are flocking into China as tourists and students, which is good for bottom-up regionalism.

That's the reality and proven by empirical data.
you are a bad comedian. oh I believe have said already sometimes ago. How can China a protector of VCP?

man, you are a joke.

since hundreds of years, Vietnam´s army is trained to take on China, stopping the northerner´s multiple invasion attempts. the foreign armies from French, America, Japan to Mongol, Manchu, Siam, Khmer come and go. some more than one time, but we will never see most of them as enemy again in our life. The PLA attacked Vietnam in 1979 and in the years after, although VCP is as communist as CCP. how do you explain it?

there is no direkt flight between Vietnam and US yet. it is expensive and time intensive to get to the US. but thing is going to change. multiple Vietnam airliners will start serving direkt flights by 2019.

it is better if Vietnam and China cooperate, if not, Vietnam will go alone, as always the case.
 
.
Back
Top Bottom