IHS Jane's epic failure : Soumar running on a turbojet engine !

[SOHEIL]

Analysis: Iranian cruise missile unveiling raises questions about range - IHS Jane's 360

To achieve this range in a domestically produced cruise missile Iran would need an engine with a similar performance to the R95-300 turbofan used in the original Kh-55. However, it is highly unlikely that Iran is capable of producing such an engine.

It is even harder to produce a small turbofan engine for a cruise missile than it a standard-sized engine due to the smaller components and higher pressures and temperatures involved. Indeed, there are only five known manufacturers that currently make small turbofans that could be used in cruise missiles: Williams International in the United States (F107 and F112); Pratt & Whitney Canada (PW600); AMNTK Soyuz (R95-300) and NPO Saturn (36MT) in Russia; and Motor Sich in Ukraine (MS400). It is unclear if China's turbofan-powered cruise missiles use domestically produced engines or ones imported from Russia or Ukraine.

An alternative explanation is that the Iranians dispensed with the turbofan used on the original Kh-55 and fitted the Soumar with a far simpler and cheaper turbojet engine.

Seems IHS Jane's master experts can't identify a low bypass turbofan engine :

 

[-SINAN-]

Analysis: Iranian cruise missile unveiling raises questions about range - IHS Jane's 360







Seems IHS Jane's master experts can't identify a low bypass turbofan engine :

TurboFan without a fan.

 

[SOHEIL]

TurboFan without a fan.

!?

 

[Draco.IMF]

Analysis: Iranian cruise missile unveiling raises questions about range - IHS Jane's 360







Seems IHS Jane's master experts can't identify a low bypass turbofan engine :

Soheil, if you say Janes article is false just tell us what exactly is wrong and what is right.
If you refute something just make clear what the facts are.

 

[Arminkh]

For the people who don't know what a turbofan engine is:

It has a core where the power is generated which in turn spins the shaft. The shaft spins a secondary turbine which may be in front of the engine or around the core in other designs. This turbine is responsible to generate bypass flow around the core which is the main drive force of the engine.

 

[SOHEIL]

Soheil, if you say Janes article is false just tell us what exactly is wrong and what is right.
If you refute something just make clear what the facts are.

Completely clear !

low bypass turbofan engine

 

[Draco.IMF]

For example:

Turbofan of NPO Saturn used in Kh-59 tactical air launched missile

How far is Iran with cruise missiles?
Ranking please (Including USA/China/Russia/India/Pakistan/Israel/France/Germany/UK...)
"Conspiracy Theory"

 

[SOHEIL]

How far is Iran with cruise missiles?
Ranking please (Including USA/China/Russia/India/Pakistan/Israel/France/Germany/UK...)

 

[Arminkh]

For example:

Turbofan of NPO Saturn used in Kh-59 tactical air launched missile

How far is Iran with cruise missiles?
Ranking please (Including USA/China/Russia/India/Pakistan/Israel/France/Germany/UK...)
"Conspiracy Theory"

Iran has just recently revealed its land attack cruise missiles. So there is no much info about them.

 

[The SC]

For example:

Turbofan of NPO Saturn used in Kh-59 tactical air launched missile

How far is Iran with cruise missiles?
Ranking please (Including USA/China/Russia/India/Pakistan/Israel/France/Germany/UK...)
"Conspiracy Theory"

How can you rank a sanctioned nation with others?

 

[-SINAN-]

For the people who don't know what a turbofan engine is:

It has a core where the power is generated which in turn spins the shaft. The shaft spins a secondary turbine which may be in front of the engine or around the core in other designs. This turbine is responsible to generate bypass flow around the core which is the main drive force of the engine.

Oh god.... it couldn't been more wrong....

For the people who don't know what a turbofan engine is, just watch this video.

Attention, this is a high bypass engine...as you can see from the bypass ratios.

Also change the topic to:
SOHEIL's epic failure : Soumar running on a turbojet engine !

Let me ask from our experts ( @Abii @Zarvan @AUz )

What is the type of this engine ?

Ohh, i get it.

That's a TurboJet engine..not a TurboFan.

What you are seeing is the low pressure compressor of a TurboJet.

In the TurboFan engines, there would be a a fan before the low pressure compressor, and bypass duct happens to be after the Fan... without a fan, compressor will simply suck all of the air into the engine, that's why A fan is being used to divert some of the airflow into the bypass.

If you photoshop a fan to the entrance , problem will be solved.

Are you gonna swear at me.

Proved your Ignorance :

Good job, by posting another turbofan engine's pic....

What you posted is Ukrainian, Motor Sich's P95TM-300 TurboJet.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Р95-300
"korotkoresursny turbojet engine. It also has the designation "Product 95". Designed for installation on subsonic aircraft"

P95TM-300 is the modified version of P95-300.

I guess, i don't have to say which one looks like yours.
The Russian-Ukrainian joint venture will build engines for missiles in 2012 | Encyclopedia of safety

Gonna swear at me now ?

Edit: Before you say, that red thingy is not a fan but just a simple cover.

Why nobody is swearing at me ??

 

[SOHEIL]

Oh god.... it couldn't been more wrong....

For the people who don't know what a turbofan engine is, just watch this video.

Attention, this is a high bypass engine...as you can see from the bypass ratios.

Also change the topic to:
SOHEIL's epic failure : Soumar running on a turbojet engine !









Why nobody is swearing at me ??

You don't have any picture from the Engine's exhaust !?

 

[SOHEIL]

@Sinan

Soumar :

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Р95-300

Разработчик: АМНТК «Союз»

Изготовитель: «Мотор Сич»

Год освоения: 1982

Применение: Х-55, Х-35, Х-59М

малоразмерные одновальные ТРДД тягой 300-380 кгс

R95-300

Developer: AESTC "Union"

The manufacturer: "Motor Sich"

Year of development: 1982

Application: X-55, X-35, X-59M

small-sized single-shaft turbofan thrust of 300-380 kg

Турбореактивные двигатели для БПЛА / Взлёт 2006 04

In another forum somebody said :

R95-300 is turbofan ... but P95-300 is turbojet !!!



Failure ... P = R in russian

 

[-SINAN-]

@Sinan

Soumar :

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R95-300

Developer: AESTC "Union"

The manufacturer: "Motor Sich"

Year of development: 1982

Application: X-55, X-35, X-59M

small-sized single-shaft turbofan thrust of 300-380 kg

Турбореактивные двигатели для БПЛА / Взлёт 2006 04

A take it back...this is a Turbo fan engine.....

Турбореактивные двигатели для БПЛА / Взлёт 2006 04

You should have just post this pic....

 

[SOHEIL]

A take it back...this is a Turbo fan engine.....
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Турбореактивные двигатели для БПЛА / Взлёт 2006 04

You should have just post this pic....

Sorry but this is not R95-300