Top 11 FACTS, which if you mentioned, will make you sectarian on PDF....
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1. Iran pushed the infected pilgrims into Pakistani border despite Pak government asking them not to do so (as said by PM Khan and FM Shah Mahmood Qureshi)
2. According to latest Intelligence reports; People are still being allowed to cross Pakistani border from Iran UNDETECTED by some POWERFUL people sitting in Islamabad and Balochistan bureaucracy ...Refer to below article which I posted but got deleted by BIASED moderator, terming it as old news....such bullshit. This is newly published article.
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1649091/world
3. Most of the corona virus cases, almost 70%, which appeared in Pakistan are linked to Iran (as said by PM Khan)
4. Iran is a HIGHLY SECTARIAN country, which tricks Pakistani Shias into fighting for her, using them as cannon fodders and trying to create a proxy force in Pakistan as well just like they have in Lebanon and Syria. Just recently Turkish forces killed a lot of Pakistani Shias who were fighting against Turkiye on behalf of Iran.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pakistanis-are-fighting-against-turkey.655368/
5. Iran proudly claims it has employed Pakistanis as proxy force....
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/liwa-zanibiyoun.649191/
6. Iran tried to spy on Kuwaiti delegation which came in Pakistan for business purpose and used Pakistani bureaucrat for that, making Pakistan embarrassed in front of whole world...
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/thef...f-kuwaiti-delegations-wallet-stealing.579555/
7. Iran harbored Kulbhushan Jadhav, trained and supported him in his activities against Pakistan.
8. Iran used Pakistani man for spying in Germany, again embarrassing Pakistan...
https://www.thelocal.de/20170327/pakistani-jailed-in-germany-for-spying-for-iran
9. Iran sent her drone for spying on Balochistan and then PAF blew it in the sky.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/paf-jf-17-shoots-down-uav-from-iran.502557/
10. Iran used Uzair Baloch for spying on Pak military academies.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/uzai...ing-for-iranian-intelligence-agencies.522382/
11. Heck, even local target killers in Karachi had Iranian link, from attacking
Mufti Taqi Usmani, Pakistan's top religious scholar to attacking random potential targets...
If law-enforcement’s radar was already up, it was the attempt on Mufti Taqi Usmani that sent alarm bells ringing.
https://www.samaa.tv/latest-news/20...he-neighbouring-country-that-cannot-be-named/
Shocking disclosures: Target-killer served as diplomat’s translator
https://www.samaa.tv/news/2016/10/a...consul-generals-translator-nabbed-in-karachi/
Ah, yet another myopic view of a complex situation. Just what I need.
Let's break this down.
1.) Always FIRST hold your own government responsible. We knew that thousands of Pakistani pilgrims were in Iran when the outbreak happened. What preparations did we make? Hardly any --- it was all too little, too late.
Now, the Iranian side. It seems absolutely true that Iran, under severe US sanctions --- which are against any norms of humanity --- was struggling under the worst days of its own outbreak, with very little resources compared to China. China kept a few hundred students with the world's largest cash reserves --- we cannot expect Iran to keep a few thousand of our pilgrims when it is under the world's worst sanctions.
2.) Failure of Pak's government to make adequate arrangements in time and enforcing the border entry ban properly.
3.) Yes, they did. I don't see how this is Iran's "fault" when they are our citizens and Iran is under immense pressure with sanctions. First and foremost, your own country has to take care of you.
4.) Iran uses proxies just like we use proxies. When you want to recruit assets, you use whatever works --- if Iran has found that the sectarian card works for radicalized Shia youth, then of course it will use that angle. India, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan all have used proxies for decades. I would argue that Pakistan has suffered very little through Iranian proxies compared to the utter destruction of state and society caused by militants (and their secret sympathizers) caused by Wahabbi/Salafi Sunni militants. But I hate to get into that argument because it suggests an either/or type approach, whereas I believe that we should all exist in harmony.
5.) See above.
6.) Of course --- that is how espionage works. We would try the same, as would India or Saudi Arabia. I'm trying to find how/why this makes Iran more evil.
7.) There is no evidence that Iran trained and supported Kulbashan even though he did use an Iranian city for his cover business identity. Though, as we have been caught with our pants down with Mossad and CIA-trained (and Saudi funded) militants causing violence in Iran, it should not be considerably surprising that Iran would also host an anti-Pak element. This is how offensive intel ops work.
8.) A Pakistani man
agreed to spy for Iran, embarrassing himself and our country --- though we have much bigger embarrassments to worry about. Again, an intel agency will use any willing person as an asset to achieve their own goals. Nothing about this makes Iran more evil than any other country.
9.) Wow, how nice of the PAF to protect our borders! I wish the PAF blew American drones out of the sky, which actually killed Pakistani citizens in the tribal areas (sometimes militants, sometimes innocent), the helicopters that killed our troops at a FATA checkpost/FOB and the helicopters that brought DEVGRU in for the Osama mission (all actions that caused the loss of lives) VS. a surveillance drone. But you're right, Iran did send a drone in the area where there was known militant activity against Iran preparing for a cross-border attack from Pakistani Balochistan. They should not have done this.
10.) Iran did use Uzair Baloch, but this again falls into the relatively normal category of intel ops neighbors conduct on each other. Is it right? Of course not! But it's not extraordinary or unique.
11.) These are proxy wars with target killers hired by Iranian and Saudi-backed outfits.
I think it's impossible to view anything in a vacuum. Iran has been looking out for its interests. We have been overly attached to Saudi Arabia --- and now we're seeing the results of this as they grow closer to India --- at the expense of our neighbor. Our ex COAS is serving in Saudi for God's sake --- obviously the Iranians will feel insecure!
I believe the damage done by all 11 of these Iranian actions pales in comparison to the damage done by:
a.) Saudi weaponized Islamic ideology that spawned everyone from LeJ to TTP (all Sunni outfits)
b.) 5-6 decades of horrible rule, whether civil or military, with no effort to balance foreign relations and push much-needed domestic reform.
Please understand that I am NOT denying the facts you have presented --- I am just adding
context to them. If there is cancer spreading in your body (
takfeeri interpretations of Islam and the violence and intolerance they have brought), it would be foolish to blame someone for a minor cut or bruise. We have much bigger problems to worry about. We should improve relations with Iran, dissociate a bit with Saudi, and re-calibrate our entire posture based on a Iran-Turkey-Russia-China bloc. The Gulf states, especially the House of Saud, are just American puppets who are in bed with the Zionists. Even with the might of the American military and the cleverness of Israeli intelligence, they still fear Iran --- all alone and under sanctions. I pray that you expand your horizons, and if you truly care about Pakistan --- focus on the cancer, not on minor cuts.
Just my 2c. I'm a Sunni btw. My first name is one that Shias generally don't ever keep (as those who know me on this forum can attest) --- but that doesn't cloud my thinking. I agree with you that sectarianism is backward and is destroying our country and our religion. The answer is in greater cooperation, not greater antagonism. Thanks for reading!
