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MiG-21 phaseout hit by fighter jet shortage
They have a poor safety record. But the Indian Air Force (IAF) is reluctant to phase out its old Soviet era warhorse MiG-21 due to the delay in inducting new and modern fighter jets.

Dubbed 'flying coffins' for their frequent crashes, only 150-160 of the over 450 single-engine MiG-21s with the IAF are still in service. A large number have been lost in accidents during peace time.

"The main problem with MiG-21s is that they are very old and the on-board systems have become obsolete," a highly-placed IAF official told IANS. The official himself has flown the combat aircraft.

But because it faces a shortage of fighter squadrons, the IAF cannot afford to phase out the ageing MiG-21s. If it does that, it would diminish its force level drastically.

The IAF, the world's fourth largest air force, currently has a fighter squadron strength of 33.5 against the sanctioned 39.

"We have a shortage of fighter squadrons. Also, the delay in the delivery of indigenous Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) and in the acquisition of MMRCA (Medium Multi Role Combat Aircraft) is pushing further the phasing out of MiG-21s. After all, we need to maintain a minimum force level," another IAF commander said.

The Indian government has issued tenders for acquisition of 126 medium multi-role combat aircrafts but the acquisition has been delayed due to time consuming procedures which include submitting of bids, technical evaluation of proposals from global military suppliers and field trials. The first aircraft would conservatively be inducted only by 2020, according to defence ministry sources.The assessment is that the retirement of the five squadrons of MiG-21s will diminish the IAF's conventional edge over its adversaries.

The current deadline for the retirement of MiG-21s is 2011. But this is likely to be pushed back further due to the slow pace of procurement and indigenisation process.

"The MiG-21s have a serviceability of 80 per cent. We have good maintenance facilities for MiG-21s. Otherwise we would have been forced to retire them," said the official.

Since 1993, the IAF has lost over 260 aircraft during peace time. Of these 107 were its vintage warhorse MiG-21s. Fifteen of them crashed in the last five years, leaving seven pilots dead.

The latest crash took place September 11 when a MiG-21 went down in Bathinda in Punjab, killing the pilot.

The MiG-21s, inducted in 1964, proved their worth in the 1971 war with Pakistan and again in 1999 during the Kargil conflict, also with Pakistan. The IAF inducted its first MiG-21 from the erstwhile Soviet Union five years after their induction into the Soviet Air Force. Thereafter some 450 MiG-21 jets were inducted in the IAF to bolster its strength.

The indigenous LCA (light combat aircraft) project has been marred with delays because of the inability of military research bodies to provide engines with right configuration for the aircrafts.
 
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They are prone to accidents because of wrong parts. If they can be operational with proper parts in place then why to phase them out.....
 
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The Indian government has issued tenders for acquisition of 126 medium multi-role combat aircrafts but the acquisition has been delayed due to time consuming procedures which include submitting of bids, technical evaluation of proposals from global military suppliers and field trials. The first aircraft would conservatively be inducted only by 2020, according to defence ministry sources.The assessment is that the retirement of the five squadrons of MiG-21s will diminish the IAF's conventional edge over its adversaries.
The current deadline for the retirement of MiG-21s is 2011. But this is likely to be pushed back further due to the slow pace of procurement and indigestion process.

First MMRCA aircraft Inducted by 2020 at best.
You have got to be kidding me.

10 years+ , to buy a plane.

Get your facts straight
even if delays are rampant.
The conservative date for induction will be 2014

but most likely will begin by 2012 according to schedule.

India will have Squadrons of PAK-fa and FGFA by 2020

MIG-21 Bisons will also be in service till 2020
 
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upgrate the radar and weapon system,cooperate with AWACS,mig-21 is still useful:cheesy:

It was a mistake on the part of the corrupt political leaders to have purchased wrong spares for the planes. If they would have purchased the correct ones the glory of Mig 21 would have still been there which have served far better in all the wars which India has fought.
 
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This is stupid, it has already taken a lot of lives & still they don't want to ground it, Hats for the pilots who sit in these machines & moreover there are only a few cases in which pilot survived the MiG-21 crash & there have been some Bison Crashes as well, are they waiting for whole MiG-21 fleet to crash :hitwall:
They must at least think about lives of the pilots
 
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This is stupid, it has already taken a lot of lives & still they don't want to ground it, Hats for the pilots who sit in these machines & moreover there are only a few cases in which pilot survived the MiG-21 crash & there have been some Bison Crashes as well, are they waiting for whole MiG-21 fleet to crash :hitwall:
They must at least think about lives of the pilots

You cannot ground just like that , There must be an alternative...
 
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This is stupid, it has already taken a lot of lives & still they don't want to ground it, Hats for the pilots who sit in these machines & moreover there are only a few cases in which pilot survived the MiG-21 crash & there have been some Bison Crashes as well, are they waiting for whole MiG-21 fleet to crash :hitwall:
They must at least think about lives of the pilots

you need not to worry abt our pilots..
 
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You cannot ground just like that , There must be an alternative...

If i m not wrong there have been like 300 crashes, these crashes are more than enough to make an AF think about alternative( no offense though), they seriously need to think how many lives have been wasted, anyways hope for the best.

@ War Lock
Don't rant plz...
 
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If i m not wrong there have been like 300 crashes, these crashes are more than enough to make an AF think about alternative( no offense though), they seriously need to think how many lives have been wasted, anyways hope for the best.

@ War Lock
Don't rant plz...

The main reason for the crashes are the wrong parts being inducted into the systems. So if this problem can be resolved then there is no point of grounding them
 
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If i m not wrong there have been like 300 crashes, these crashes are more than enough to make an AF think about alternative( no offense though), they seriously need to think how many lives have been wasted, anyways hope for the best.

@ War Lock
Don't rant plz...

Hope u are kidding... If 300 would have crashed, this thread wouldnt have been opened as there wouldnt be any Mig-21 's to ground..lol... but anyway, Yeah we need to look into it... well But 24-30 have crashed for sure...
 
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Hope u are kidding... If 300 would have crashed, this thread wouldnt have been opened as there wouldnt be any Mig-21 's to ground..lol... but anyway, Yeah we need to look into it... well But 24-30 have crashed for sure...

writing mistake... :D
sorry
 
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The main reason for the crashes are the wrong parts being inducted into the systems. So if this problem can be resolved then there is no point of grounding them

I m not questioning abilites of 21, of course its a great machine if its reliable & as aimarraul said still a great A/C with upgraded radars
Bison can give a hard time to F-16A :agree:
 
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I m not questioning abilites of 21, of course its a great machine if its reliable & as aimarraul said still a great A/C with upgraded radars
Bison can give a hard time to F-16A :agree:

Along with Su 30 MKI in the backdrop waiting for their chance....:D
 
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