IAF strikes Balakot. Wins and Wins

[MastanKhan]

@Irfan Baloch
The case is of being stuck between a rock and a hard place.
To be able to shoot down the IAF, the RoE also needs to ensure that the wreckage falls INSIDE Pakistan. However, the doctrine that the IAF was hoping to achieve with standoff weapons is to be able to hit a target inside Pakistan without crossing the IB so keeping its assets safe whilst claiming a grey area of only attacking terrorist strongholds.
During the 3-4 minutes when the aircraft came in, launched maybe 1-2 poorly targeted weapons and then bugged out there was no way to ascertain that a weapon has been fired.
Was a counterattack done at that time then it would have made an impact BUT there was no indication that an attack was ever made - and now that there is the time to respond has gone by.

Oddly enough, if the weapons had hit anything - a seminary full of children or civilians - we would have had the optics to show the world; but dead trees arw nothing to show. So just like Uri, the Indian government and media can brainwash their target bloodthirsty populous a.k.a potential voters whilst allowing the narrative to flood the Internet while we really have nothing to show for it nor a reasonable stance to counterattack for which we need to get support.
No friend or ally will back us when all that was hit was trees; so the incompetence of the IAF has actually gone in their favor.

The ISPR isn’t helping its cause because I can tell they are trying to shoot a narrative under pressure without getting all the info.
Technically the tweets should have been from a PAF representative of the ISPR after gathering facts.. magar
Jab qismat phooti ho tu kya karien.

@AgNoStiC MuSliM @Horus
@WebMaster

Perhaps a narrative release is required on PDF presence elsewhere trying clearly explain the limitations and response.

Hi,

@Oscar---what a cowardly statement---. That is indeed what was expected of you---.

 

[Riz]

DG ISPR account should be suspended for a moment guy needs to take a break he is becoming a joke now

Please some should tell Govt and DGISPR that arranging visits of the journalists taking them and showing them the attack sites is a shameful practice... You are the army a nuclear power country please behave and act like ruthless force... Dont think about what damn fuking world powers will say.. Just pound everything be it with biological, chemicals, nuclear, conventional werheads whenever someone challenge our sovereignty... Being a ruthless is key of survival .. Just learn a little bit from Israel..they love their lives but we every Pakistani is ready for die for the country.. Show the world what we are dont defame us please.. Enough is Enough

 

[Indian Libertarian]

Please some should tell Govt and DGISPR that arranging visits of the journalists taking them and showing them the attack sites is a shameful practice... You are the army a nuclear power country please behave and act like ruthless force... Dont think about what damn fuking world powers will say.. Just pound everything be it with biological, chemicals, nuclear, conventional werheads whenever someone challenge our sovereignty... Being a ruthless is key of survival .. Just learn a little bit from Israel..they love their lives but we every Pakistani is ready for die for the country.. Show the world what we are dont defame us please.. Enough is Enough

Pakistan will cease to exist if it does something utterly stupid like that. Some people criticize Pakistani generals for their bad decisions, but that would be like signing a contract to go to hell. What you don’t understand is that Israel isn’t a ruthless force. It carefully plans every move. That’s what India is emulating. If Pakistan did so I think it would be much more peaceful.

 

[CHACHA"G"]

The fact that India crossed LOC and dropped something in KPK is beyond forgive-able. Its breaking-in, though they have not robbed you after - but India did break in.

Also you do not want to fix new behaviours in your enemy that next time they can orchestrate another Pulwama and pound you with bombs because they are judge, jury and executor. Remember there is still no evidence of Pakistan's involvement or anybody from Pakistan involved.

and people here telling if PAF or our SAMs shoot them down they will fell inside IOK , and we cannot do that,,,,,,, One need to lie too much to him/her self …….
India without and prove did what it did and we were very about where jet will fell. lmao
But I am happy , Ask why , my answer is .
One more thing proven to be false , one more wrongly said and sold narrative , which said it is not the machine but man behind the machine...……. lol this activity from IAF proved It is both the machine and the man...….. As according to Quran , Which order us to keep our Horses (a machine of war that to in desert and that too 1400 years ago , imagine this) Ready.. …...

 

[Dark-Destroyer]

wow again ..... comparing official communication (recorded) with random sources.......
bezzati karane me maza aata hai kya

Official communication from who India lol the joke of south Asia son carry on feciating on the train station wipe your *** then come and talk here

 

[Zhukov]

Strange thing is why nothing was shot at Indian Planes.
Even Syrians Start Shooting at Israeli Planes at missiles the moment they enter Syrian Airspace. News are followed much after. And Lebanon Border to Damascus distance is hardly 30 Km from where Israel does its incursions.
I always Follow Syrian war. And it always follow the pattern. Before the news of Official Statements come from Syria or Israel. AA Batteries Fire and AA Missiles fires are Reported by Civilians.
Either Syrians Succeed to down Israeli JEts and Missiles is another story. But they do respond and almost always down one of incoming Bogeys if not prevent the incoming attack.
And they operate Fixed Mounted Vintage 1950s and 1960s Soviet Systems like S75 Dvina S125 Neva and S200 Gammon.
Pakistan have much Modern Medium Range Sams including Buk based HQ16 Sams and Short Range Spada 2000 and HQ-7 and a Much modern Airforce.

Dont know what to say. Did we left Kashmir region totally Exposed which is the most crucial area. As it is so close to all major Military Installations like Abbottabad, Wah, Kamra, Islamabad, Texla. And all these regions are prone to Air Attacks in Specific. Land incursion is almost impossible from Kashmir Region.
Are we too busy defending the Industrial Zones of Punjab and Sindh leaving KPK and Vicinity of Federal TErritories exposed?

 

[zaynwarraich]

Strange thing is why nothing was shot at Indian Planes.
Even Syrians Start Shooting at Israeli Planes at missiles the moment they enter Syrian Airspace. News are followed much after. And Lebanon Border to Damascus distance is hardly 30 Km from where Israel does its incursions.
I always Follow Syrian war. And it always follow the pattern. Before the news of Official Statements come from Syria or Israel. AA Batteries Fire and AA Missiles fires are Reported by Civilians.
Either Syrians Succeed to down Israeli JEts and Missiles is another story. But they do respond and almost always down one of incoming Bogeys if not prevent the incoming attack.
And they operate Fixed Mounted Vintage 1950s and 1960s Soviet Systems like S75 Dvina S125 Neva and S200 Gammon.
Pakistan have much Modern Medium Range Sams including Buk based HQ16 Sams and Short Range Spada 2000 and HQ-7 and a Much modern Airforce.

Dont know what to say. Did we left Kashmir region totally Exposed which is the most crucial area. As it is so close to all major Military Installations like Abbottabad, Wah, Kamra, Islamabad, Texla. And all these regions are prone to Air Attacks in Specific. Land incursion is almost impossible from Kashmir Region.
Are we too busy defending the Industrial Zones of Punjab and Sindh leaving KPK and Vicinity of Federal TErritories exposed?

Think the other way around. We could have lured the prey in to tear it into pieces afterwards and international powers could be side lined by clearly showing to the world that they initiated the breach.
Positivity is what is required as of this point...

 

[Dubious]

Perhaps a narrative release is required on PDF presence elsewhere trying clearly explain the limitations and response.

From what had happened that day to today...I would say it was well played.
1) Indians come into our air space ...It is called violation of LOC and breach of international law, which automatically made Indian a threat to international peace and security.
2) Indians aired it made sure every stone and rock on the planet knew of it...so we dont need to prove who violated our airspace/ international law and threatened our security...even then we gave them an olive branch of peace.
3) Had we shot down their planes then...they would have cried on world stage with some lie or another...
4) When they did that they triggered another international convention...Right to self defence

Pakistan will respond and exercise its right to self-defence in accordance with the provisions of international law and UN Charter,”

5) Now we dont have to proof that india violated our airspace and security...ON TOP OF THAT we get free access to self defence without needing to answer to anyone!
6) We get to air this on international stage. I dont see how blaming our institutes helps when all played out as planned!

Sabar ka phal meetha hota hai

Stones are rolling:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/paki...ce-of-indian-aggression.604462/#post-11216970

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Hi,

NPR is a national public radio in the the US---this morning news discusses both the scenarios---for them the success or no success of attack was not the issue---the issue was---intentionally crossing LOC was an " ACT OF WAR "---plain and simple---.

Pakistani boys and men can whimper---bi-tch and moan all they want---.

The strike being successful or not---a threat of war was declared before the strike---and the strike was carried on---.

I do not have any doubts that the Paf would retaliate---.

But guess what---it has given Iran ideas to strike pakistan as well.

well we can rule out Iran for now
yes?

 

[MastanKhan]

From what had happened that day to today...I would say it was well played.
1) Indians come into our air space ...It is called violation of LOC and breach of international law, which automatically made Indian a threat to international peace and security.
2) Indians aired it made sure every stone and rock on the planet knew of it...so we dont need to prove who violated our airspace/ international law and threatened our security...even then we gave them an olive branch of peace.
3) Had we shot down their planes then...they would have cried on world stage with some lie or another...
4) When they did that they triggered another international convention...Right to self defence

5) Now we dont have to proof that india violated our airspace and security...ON TOP OF THAT we get free access to self defence without needing to answer to anyone!
6) We get to air this on international stage. I dont see how blaming our institutes helps when all played out as planned!

Sabar ka phal meetha hota hai

Stones are rolling:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/paki...ce-of-indian-aggression.604462/#post-11216970

Hi,

You are incorrect---.

The enemy has already shown intent to strike at will---.

Once the enemy makes that claim---any incursion across LOC or boundary line is looked as an ACT OF WAR---.

And again---they should have been shot down the first time they came---because that was after Declaration of Intent to cause damage---that was an Act Of War---.

You children need to learn to defend your country better---

@Irfan Baloch --- I am just so tired of hitting my head against the walls---can you try to make these kids understand better---thank you.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Hi,

You are incorrect---.

The enemy has already shown intent to strike at will---.

Once the enemy makes that claim---any incursion across LOC or boundary line is looked as an ACT OF WAR---.

And again---they should have been shot down the first time they came---because that was after Declaration of Intent to cause damage---that was an Act Of War---.

You children need to learn to defend your country better---

@Irfan Baloch --- I am just so tired of hitting my head against the walls---can you try to make these kids understand better---thank you.

brother dont

relax yourself

forget the titles and forget trying to convince
start drinking like me. with or without extra stuff in it.

I agree with you. I think the first missed opportunity gave Indians false hope and they got baited into another attack resulting in their loss.

we only posts comments here. I know its frustrating to see ill thought comments but I put it down to excitement and communication barrier

 

[Dubious]

I think the first missed opportunity gave Indians false hope and they got baited into another attack resulting in their loss.

and that was our win...

Overconfidence killed them in cricket and now on a different level!

start drinking like me. with or without extra stuff in it.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

and that was our win...

Overconfidence killed them in cricket and now on a different level!

yes sir thats my assessment

 

[Dubious]

And again---they should have been shot down the first time they came---because that was after Declaration of Intent to cause damage---that was an Act Of War---.

You children need to learn to defend your country better---

I think our forces knew that about Indians and let them waltz out ....After all we needed to study the enemy!

I am just so tired of hitting my head against the walls

Relax kero uncle have some nutella sandwich...

 

[MastanKhan]

Pakistan will cease to exist if it does something utterly stupid like that. Some people criticize Pakistani generals for their bad decisions, but that would be like signing a contract to go to hell. What you don’t understand is that Israel isn’t a ruthless force. It carefully plans every move. That’s what India is emulating. If Pakistan did so I think it would be much more peaceful.

Hi,

We won't---but you would cease to exist---.

Read my article on nuclear holocaust on this forum---how it will progress and what would it do to india---.

The world would end as it existed---.