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IANS 20 October 2009, 05:02pm IST
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ISLAMABAD: Former Pakistani president Pervez Musharraf has said he wanted to walk out of the failed 2001 Agra summit but was dissuaded from doing so
by a senior official.
His frustration, he told reporters in New York, stemmed from the fact that then Indian prime minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee had twice refused to include a reference to Kashmir in the joint declaration issued after the summit.
According to Musharraf, it was decided between him and Vajpayee that the joint declaration would say that Kashmir was a dispute between India and Pakistan and would be settled through political negotiations but the Indian prime minister backed out of it at the last moment.
A second draft of the joint declaration was prepared with some changes but Vajpayee backed out of that too, Musharraf said.

"I did not like it and wanted to leave right away but could not do so because of the advice of our foreign secretary," The News Tuesday quoted Musharraf as telling reporters in New York, where he is currently on a lecture tour.
"I also wanted to talk to the press about the issue but could not do so either as the press was not allowed to come to the hotel where I was staying and we were not allowed to go to the press due to security reasons," the former military dictator added.
Musharraf, who laid down office last year under an elaborate deal worked out between the Pakistani government, Saudi Arabia, the US and Britain, also sought to distance himself from the 2006 killing of Baloch leader Akbar Khan Bugti, saying he was not running the government but was only head of the state at the time.
He could not be accused of Bugti's killing because there was a (Balochistan) chief minister, a prime minister and others who were running government affairs at that time, Musharraf maintained.

A case has been registered against Musharraf for his alleged role in the Bugti killing. Others named in the first information report (FIR) are former prime minister Shaukat Aziz, North West Frontier Province (NWFP) Governor Owais Ahmad Ghani, former interior minister Aftab Ahmad Khan Serpao and former Balochistan chief minister Jam Yousaf.

However, it is unclear how the police would proceed against Musharraf as he had ignored a Balochistan High Court order to appear before it Oct 7 for a hearing in the case. The court had then ordered that a FIR be registered against the former military dictator.

Musharraf had in July ignored a notice from the Pakistani Supreme Court to appear for a hearing against the emergency he had declared Nov 3, 2007. The court had July 31 declared the emergency unconstitutional.
A respected politician and former chief minister of Balochistan, Bugti was killed by the Pakistani Army Aug 26, 2006 during a massive military operation in the Bhambore Hills, an area between the cities of Kohlu and Dera Bugti in Balochistan.
He had gone into hiding earlier that year after Pakistani forces launched a crackdown on Baloch rebels after rockets were fired in December 2005 during Musharraf's visit to Balochistan.
 
Gen Musharraf is a man who speaks his mind so I am sure he is telling the truth. A true leader and a true patriot.

On the hand, we have Nawaz Sharif who likes to make a joke out of himself on every single issue. I think North & Central Punjab will vote for another party in the next elections.

Nawaz Sharif is an a** - first he left his party alone and cut a deal with Musharraf - then he denied the deal for many years - then he accepts that tehre was a deal and now he is sitting home because of the Saudis.
 
... and cut a deal with Musharraf
“Al rashi wal murtashi kala huma finnar”. The one who accepts the bribe, and the one who offers it, both are going to the hell. If Quran says it than there is no doubt about it. If Nawaz is wrong, so is Musharraf and even more so after he cut a deal with the looters and introduced the NRO not in the love of the country but only to secure and prolong his illegal presidency.
 
It is a shame that NRO is srill not done with, this speaks volumes about our elected leaders and their agenda. it is not to help Democracy flourish but keep power in their hands by a hated rule like NRO, it is not one person but all elected members of GOP.

so what should one so. We should write to our media to stand up to these unscrupolous people and force them to behave better for the betterment of Pakistan.

Musharaf being the milatry man was no less of a neusense as he invented this nro without any regardsd fot Pakistani constitution and fairplay.
 
The man under discussion here is Musharraf, not Nawaz Sharif or Zardari or anyone else. I am not aware of the entire Akbar Bugti killing issue, as most "facts" out there are quite unreliable. However, if rockets were really fired onto the Sui plant, and Musharraf claims there were 400 of them, then sure enough it was the responsibility of the authorities to use all techniques necessary to capture him. If he was killed in the process, than so be it, but it must be proved. We are talking about 400 rockets here, there should be plenty of hard evidence and eye-witness accounts.

On the other hand, every citizen of Pakistan must respect court orders, whether they are from the Balochistan High Court or the Supreme Court. Gen. Musharraf should have done so as well, it is his duty, in my opinion. The case against him, in my eyes, is legitimate. This does not mean I believe him to be a criminal, but simply that he must prove his innocence.

As for the Agra summit, it turned out to be much ado about nothing. Can't say it was disappointing, I was too young to even realize the gravity of it all, but surely better results were expected. I believe the current PM of India, Mr. Manmohan Singh, is a much more reasonable man. He won't give-up Kashmir outright, it would be foolish to expect that, but he seems a man willing to make intelligent compromises. If only we could have another Agra summit now.
 
One call from USA has made Nawaz Sharif to surrender to Zardari or talk to him. The nation needs a leader like Musharraf.
 
“Al rashi wal murtashi kala huma finnar”. The one who accepts the bribe, and the one who offers it, both are going to the hell. If Quran says it than there is no doubt about it. If Nawaz is wrong, so is Musharraf and even more so after he cut a deal with the looters and introduced the NRO not in the love of the country but only to secure and prolong his illegal presidency.

Tell me one politician who is not going to hell. My support for Gen. Musharraf is always there because he is far better than others in the lot of our leaders.

How do you know he secured that deal for his presidency. That deal happened when popularity for NS was at bottom low. Till early 2007, Musharraf was more popular than both BB and NS.
 
How do you know he secured that deal for his presidency. That deal happened when popularity for NS was at bottom low. Till early 2007, Musharraf was more popular than both BB and NS.
If the deal was not to prolong his illegitimate presidency than what else was it for? Why he had to cut deal with the looters and criminals whom you claim all will go to hell.

How do you know that NS popularity was bottom low? The only way of knowing about the popularity of a political party or its leader (s) is through fair and free elections and that is it. Musharraf was never popular but powerful, and that too only because of the uniform he had. Once the uniform gone, so was his power and what you call 'popularity'. Ask him to come back and take part in the elections, than we will see where he and his popularity stand.
 
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One call from USA has made Nawaz Sharif to surrender to Zardari or talk to him. The nation needs a leader like Musharraf.
One such call from Washington made Musharraf to sell his country to the US as well. At least NS had guts to ignore not one but several such calls to go ahead and test a nuclear device.
 
Musharraf had India on one boarder and USA at the other and saved Pakistan when USA called and ask "Are you with us or ? stone age"
Zardari is selling Pakistan , wait for US auditors to come Pakistan every six months and see if all the demands are met or aid should be blocked, Never Happened during Musharraf time.
 
Musharraf had India on one boarder and USA at the other and saved Pakistan when USA called and ask "Are you with us or ? stone age"
Zardari is selling Pakistan , wait for US auditors to come Pakistan every six months and see if all the demands are met or aid should be blocked, Never Happened during Musharraf time.
For your information, no such conversation ever took place; the American officials have openly refuted this non-sense. It was all fabricated by Musharraf and Aziz so they could sell it to the Pakistani public. As far as the audit is concerned, my dear, the F-16 Blk 52 deal ....ring some bell? Please go back to the older posts and find yourself the humiliating conditions attached with that deal. Who was in the president's house when that deal was made? It was also Musharraf who allowed the Americans to enter in the country and bring whatever they want to without any security clearances etc.
 
One such call from Washington made Musharraf to sell his country to the US as well. At least NS had guts to ignore not one but several such calls to go ahead and test a nuclear device.

Read. There was recently a news paper article (in Dawn or News) where its stated that Nawaz was under huge pressure from US to cancel the tests. The military persuaded him otherwise. This comes from a military personnel's biography who was familiar with the nuclear programme.
 
Read. There was recently a news paper article (in Dawn or News) where its stated that Nawaz was under huge pressure from US to cancel the tests. The military persuaded him otherwise. This comes from a military personnel's biography who was familiar with the nuclear programme.
Please give me the reference so I could read. It may be right though Musharraf or any of the top military folks never mentioned this which is kind of strange since if that is true, they would have spoken to grab the credit. At any rate, the point remains that NS did not bow down to the US pressure.
 
For your information, no such conversation ever took place; the American officials have openly refuted this non-sense. It was all fabricated by Musharraf and Aziz so they could sell it to the Pakistani public.

Its easily conceivable the Americans would have resorted to cheap threats when they were in a total mood to move the bull dozer over Afghanistan. They hadn't even bothered to go the UN to get the invasion approved.

In any case this was eventually going to become our war even if we were to stay out of it in the beginning. The Taliban would have kept sneaking into Pak territory and invited attacks from the Americans. Also the ideology that the Taliban represent has to be defeated since this was creeping into our society even before 9/11. The later events merely helped to expose this undercurrent in our social fabric.
 

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