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I am a Muslim. Nobody forced me to convert”

You say that like I care what they think. They're wrong as well.

Quaid e Azam was a man, he wasn't a prophet, angel or a god.
Well, guess what, a number of parents will not care what you think. If the child violates a value too close to their heart, he or she will get disowned. Especially if the child is an adult.

You can live life on your terms but then you need to pull your weight. The girl in question, that Andhra girl, has not even completed her education. If her husband dumps her after impregnating her, she has nothing to support herself.
 
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Well, guess what, a number of parents will not care what you think. If the child violates a value too close to their heart, he or she will get disowned. Especially if the child is an adult.

And I'll call those so called parents immature children as well. It takes more than blood to be a parent, it takes unconditional love. If your love is conditional, you don't deserve to be a parent.

You can live life on your terms but then you need to pull your weight. The girl in question, that Andhra girl, has not even completed her education. If her husband dumps her after impregnating her, she has nothing to support herself.
You're assuming that he'll dumb her, simply to make the situation seem as bad as possible; you're basically using misdirection.

The girl has said that the husband will support her completing her education, and from what I can tell, the husband has already been doing as such.
 
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And I'll call those so called parents immature children as well. It takes more than blood to be a parent, it takes unconditional love. If your love is conditional, you don't deserve to be a parent.
Unconditional love does not exist. Its an idealist's fantasy. You cann't violate something very core to your parent and expect them to love you. Humans become parents, characters out of novel and Gods don't.

You're assuming that he'll dumb her, simply to make the situation seem as bad as possible; you're basically using misdirection.

The girl has said that the husband will support her completing her education, and from what I can tell, the husband has already been doing as such.

No, I am not assuming she will be dumped. All I am saying is that she is not capable of carrying her own weight and she is seeking freedom to choose her life. Doesn't work that way.

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she is ends up in a soup by being dumped by her husband or her husband's family she has nothing to carry her for she has not even completed her education. You cann't live by your own rules at the cost of your parents. If you want to live by your own rules, learn to carry your weight -- thats all I am saying. She certainly has not.
 
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Unconditional love does not exist. Its an idealist's fantasy. You cann't violate something very core to your parent and expect them to love you. Humans become parents, characters out of novel and Gods don't.
Oh spare me your teenage angst. If you put conditions on the love you hold for your child, you've proven that you don't deserve to be a parent, it's that simple.


No, I am not assuming she will be dumped. All I am saying is that she is not capable of carrying her own weight and she is seeking freedom to choose her life. Doesn't work that way.

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she is ends up in a soup by being dumped by her husband or her husband's family she has nothing to carry her for she has not even completed her education. You cann't live by your own rules at the cost of your parents. If you want to live by your own rules, learn to carry your weight -- thats all I am saying. She certainly has not.

It's like hitting my head against a brick wall. You're, once again, assuming that she'll get dumb, even AFTER you've said that you aren't assuming that at all.

If the husband keeps his words, your entire point will become worthless, but that's a conversation to be had, if it actually happens. There is zero point to even make this argument right now, if ever.
 
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Oh spare me your teenage angst. If you put conditions on the love you hold for your child, you've proven that you don't deserve to be a parent, it's that simple.
Yeah right! Are you going to unconditionally love your child if she desecrates Quran or says unpleasant things about your prophet Or elopes with a Jew or Hindu? Which one will you prefer if you have to make a choice between your religion and your child? I know many people will perfer one over another. For many, their religion is ahead of a Child, especially if that child is doing something which is abhorant to them.

It's like hitting my head against a brick wall. You're, once again, assuming that she'll get dumb, even AFTER you've said that you aren't assuming that at all.

If the husband keeps his words, your entire point will become worthless, but that's a conversation to be had, if it actually happens. There is zero point to even make this argument right now, if ever.
Tut, tut!
Proof by lack of imagination, right? Its not the question of husband 'dumbing' [sic]. Husband may die and husband's family may not accept her. Can she pull her weight then? Or her and her child's? World is not so simple and can screw you many ways. Infact you are missing a major point, which is 'Does she have capability to carry her self on her own?'. Nope!


Anyways, this discussion is meaningless.
 
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Yeah right! Are you going to unconditionally love your child if she desecrates Quran or says unpleasant things about your prophet Or elopes with a Jew or Hindu? Which one will you prefer if you have to make a choice between your religion and your child? I know many people will perfer one over another. For many, their religion is ahead of a Child, especially if that child is doing something which is abhorant to them.
Slippery slop argument, but I'll play along. My love for my child would be unconditional. I would be mad, but my love wouldn't be superseded by such actions. Besides, there is a difference between making a personal decision, made in a respectful manner, and one that was made through disrespect.

did that woman desecrate holy hindu scriptures? Did she disrespect hindu gods or beliefs? No she did not. She simply converted from one religion to another, and does NOT want to live with her parents. Yet, her parents are forcing her to renounce her new faith, and force her to live with them.

Your comparison is as foolish as your logic.

Pick your battles more wisely, because you've lost this one.

Tut, tut!
Proof by lack of imagination, right? Its not the question of husband 'dumbing' [sic]. Husband may die and husband's family may not accept her. Can she pull her weight then? Or her and her child's? World is not so simple and can screw you many ways. Infact you are missing a major point, which is 'Does she have capability to carry her self on her own?'. Nope!

Anyways, this discussion is meaningless.
All of these are slippery slop arguments, which have no basis in fact. You're making assumptions.

The fact that you need to use your imagination, shows a lot about your thought process. You literally had to make this up, in order to try and prove your point.

In the end, you have made zero logical arguments, instead choosing to present fantastical ones.

If you're already a father, than you're a disgrace. If you want to become a father, I hope no woman is stupid enough to give you a child, unless and until you change your mindset.
 
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