Hyuga Carrier Strike Group --- on the Hunt !

[Aepsilons]

read my reply at #29

Best not to respond to trolls. Carry on, my friend.

Pay no need to detractors, bhai @GR!FF!N .

 

[GR!FF!N]

Best not to respond to trolls. Carry on, my friend.

you are right..by the way,how many Izumo Carriers Japan is Going to procure??also,I'm interested about Japan's SealIft Capabilities.please highlight Japan's Force Projection to distant shores.

 

[Skull and Bones]

F-35s are only going to add more teeth to Japanese navy.

 

[Aepsilons]

you are right..by the way,how many Izumo Carriers Japan is Going to procure??also,I'm interested about Japan's SealIft Capabilities.please highlight Japan's Force Projection to distant shores.

2 are planned. 1 is operational , and the 2nd one will be launched soon.

you are right..by the way,how many Izumo Carriers Japan is Going to procure??also,I'm interested about Japan's SealIft Capabilities.please highlight Japan's Force Projection to distant shores.

For comparative analysis, note that the Hyuga is literally half the size of the Izumo Class:

 

[GR!FF!N]

2 are planned. 1 is operational , and the 2nd one will be launched soon.

what about Force Projection Capability????

 

[Aepsilons]

F-35s are only going to add more teeth to Japanese navy.

F-35Bs have already been tested on the Izumo. That is verified information.

It is not a matter of "if" the Izumos will be fitted with F-35Bs, but when.

 

[antonius123]

wrong.the reason is J-15's weight.its way too heavy to launch using Ski Jump.India launched much smaller Mig-29K from Viky with full load,using Ski Jump.you're comparing Queen Elizabeth??its going to use F-35B,a VTOL/STOVL aircraft.don't know about Hyuga,but it is speculated that Izumo is going to carry same aircraft,while J-15 will have to wai for a Catobar Carrier.

The same. J-15 weight is fine according to its role, the problem is J-15 is intended for a/c using CATOBAR.

If you can compare J-15's TWR is not worse than that of Mig-29, thats how you should judge whether it is weight is to much or not.

F-35B STOVL performance is more limited compared to F-35C designed to be launched using CATOBAR.
F-35B STOVL fit to LHD, with limited mission.

J-15 launched from Liaoning will be at disadvantage againts F-18 launched from Nimitz, but still very potent againts any helicopter from LHD.

read my reply at #29

LOL. You dont answer my question at all at #29 but evading instead.

That question is the point of my argument.

Should I repeat again my question ?

 

[Aepsilons]

what about Force Projection Capability????

In addition to the larger capacity, the flight of JDS Izumo deck has 5 helicopter landing spots enabling simultaneous landings or take-offs. On deployments JS Izumo will carry a typical complement of 14 helicopters, seven ASW helicopters and two SAR helicopters. In addition, the ship will be able to transport 500-600 marines, 50 trucks and supplies, and tanks as well.

Some analysts have speculated the Izumo will be adapted to carry F-35B (STOVL) and V-22 Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft.

Once commissioned, these Izumo-class vessels will more than double the current anti-submarine, anti-ship, and amphibious assault capabilities of the Chinese Navy, over the current force consisting of two helicopter carriers, operating the Shirane-class helicopter carrying destroyers, accommodating 9-10 helicopters.

 

[GR!FF!N]

The same. J-15 weight is fine according to its role, the problem is J-15 is intended for a/c using CATOBAR.

You can compare J-15's TWR is not worse than that of Mig-29.

F-35B STOVL performance is more limited compared to F-35C designed to be launched using CATOBAR.
F-35B STOVL fit to LHD, with limited mission.

J-15 launched from Liaoning will be at disadvantage againts F-18 launched from Nimitz, but still very potent againts any helicopter from LHD.

point 1...J-15's TWR may be fine.but according to China's own sources,J-15 can be launched with full internal fuel if they carry only 2 Short Ranged AAMs,while MIG-29K launched from Viky can fly with full internal fuel along with full weapons load.I'm not saying J-15 is bad,but their capability is very limited for now.plus,PLAN didn't induct to use J-15 against helos,but against Enemy Jet Fighters.

About F-35B,it can be launched with Full Fuel load along with 7000 kg of weapons,not bad at all,though inferior to F-35C,which carry some 9500 kg of weapons.but they're designed to operate that way,J-15 is not.

You said it is not a matter of "if", but now you said it is a speculation?

Who is the analysts? BoQ77?

Trolling,eh???

Japan’s new DM was inquiring about F-35Bs a couple of months ago during a visit to the U.S. Could the JMSDF be considering putting the STOVL F-35 on-board this magnificent ship? It has been speculated. Given China’s fast-pace carrier ship-building program, odds are that Japan will decide to do exactly that. Match China’s carrier power-projection capabilities. If not they could lose control of their vital sea lanes.

Japan puts helicopter carrier Izumo on sea trials | global aviation report

However it’s described, Japan’s Izumo will be its naval centrepiece | The Strategist

Japanese ‘Helicopter Destroyer’ Stirs Regional Tensions - USNI News

In addition to the larger capacity, the flight of JDS Izumo deck has 5 helicopter landing spots enabling simultaneous landings or take-offs. On deployments JS Izumo will carry a typical complement of 14 helicopters, seven ASW helicopters and two SAR helicopters. In addition, the ship will be able to transport 500-600 marines, 50 trucks and supplies, and tanks as well.

Some analysts have speculated the Izumo will be adapted to carry F-35B (STOVL) and V-22 Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft.

Once commissioned, these Izumo-class vessels will more than double the current anti-submarine, anti-ship, and amphibious assault capabilities of the Chinese Navy, over the current force consisting of two helicopter carriers, operating the Shirane-class helicopter carrying destroyers, accommodating 9-10 helicopters.

you misunderstood,though thanks for the info..

I was asking about sealift capability of JMSDF,like LSTs,LSDs etc,which can transport Tanks,Equipments and Soldiers to distant shores.I'm asking for this for the obvious reason.

 

[Aepsilons]

I was asking about sealift capability of JMSDF,like LSTs,LSDs etc,which can transport Tanks,Equipments and Soldiers to distant shores.I'm asking for this for the obvious reason.

Thanks for the clarification, buddy. I'll provide that info for you.

 

[KAL-EL]

Super sweet pics @Nihonjin1051

 

[antonius123]

point 1...J-15's TWR may be fine.but according to China's own sources,J-15 can be launched with full internal fuel if they carry only 2 Short Ranged AAMs,while MIG-29K launched from Viky can fly with full internal fuel along with full weapons load.I'm not saying J-15 is bad,but their capability is very limited for now.plus,PLAN didn't induct to use J-15 against helos,but against Enemy Jet Fighters.

About F-35B,it can be launched with Full Fuel load along with 7000 kg of weapons,not bad at all,though inferior to F-35C,which carry some 9500 kg of weapons.but they're designed to operate that way,J-15 is not.

Nobody deny J-15 has no limitation, as I also point it several times.

But the point here is: J-15 againts what? if J-15 can easily fire down Helicopter launched from LHD. Thats the point that you miss.

F35B is not only can lift less load than F35C, but it is also heavier than F35C, so its capability will be limited.

Although J-15 doesnt carry full weapon, but it still can bring adequate weapon to face mig-29K adequately in air engagement, and it is believed that J-15 capability is above mig29K.


J-15 can defeat F-35B in limited conflict: Chinese analyst｜Politics｜News｜WantChinaTimes.com

As the F-35B consumes more fuel than the J-15, it has a combat radius of only 500 kilometers while the latter has a radius of 1,000 kilometers, as the F-35B, with its vertical take-off capability, is heavier than the US Navy's F-35C.

 

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LST Osumi Class

 

[antonius123]

Trolling,eh???

Japan’s new DM was inquiring about F-35Bs a couple of months ago during a visit to the U.S. Could the JMSDF be considering putting the STOVL F-35 on-board this magnificent ship? It has been speculated. Given China’s fast-pace carrier ship-building program, odds are that Japan will decide to do exactly that. Match China’s carrier power-projection capabilities. If not they could lose control of their vital sea lanes.

Japan puts helicopter carrier Izumo on sea trials | global aviation report

However it’s described, Japan’s Izumo will be its naval centrepiece | The Strategist

Japanese ‘Helicopter Destroyer’ Stirs Regional Tensions - USNI News

That is still speculation.

 

[BoQ77]

LOL.

You forget these:

and this:

Yes. China is #2

Japan can't match up against the superpower navy of India...

India #3