Hypothetical war scenario between China and India

[Mentee]

@Mentee oye putar Pakistan dae... you started this thread in april 2020 and we read so much hulllah-hulllah by the good Indians about ShooperPauer this or that .... or that China wouldn't dare or there never be war between China and BritishIndia....

But your foresight has been on the mark... the PLA has liberated their territory from the IndianOccupation... albeit not enough/full but freed nevertheless... Chicken'sNeck and Bay-of-Bangal is the real game...

SouthTibet will be freed from IndianOccupation and the SevenSister per default.

Quad?

The good Indians were talking about snatching Tibet away from China... now they have lost Chabhar, Afghanistan as well.

The borders between Pakistan and China will be liberated Ladakh with all historic Budhist territories going back to China!

You keep happy!

Mangus

Pakistan is currently being rallied by a pacifist civil military duo so cant say for sure if we should keep it happy

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Pakistan is currently being rallied by a pacifist civil military duo so cant say for sure if we should keep it happy

Yes. Understood.

You know me and my maximum:

War is Stupid and Only Stupid want War.

However, not defending is even more stupid. I still cann't understand this WoodstockSufism.

Pacifism is a Condition only suited for Japan and Germany... which is actually imposed by the Empire and not per choice.

We must accept the reality that Pak has become a SoftState courtesy the CriminalEnterprise... all actors included.

Lets see how Wheel of Time imposes its Will on Pakistan.

Mangus

 

[Mav3rick]

Would lead to downfall of China because that is exactly what the west wants. In 1962 India wasn't in the American bloc but today its more leaning towards it, the Russians would never back China against India and US will support India for its own reasons, China would get isolated and it would damage its global ambitions for many more decades to come.

Ideally the chinese would want India to be what Canada is today for US , does India want to be that is a different matter, by having that equation with India it hopes to shift power center from the west and bring it to Asia and that puts it in a better position to spread its influence & counter US.

Very aptly put it. I think it would also be better for India to be what Canada is to US and also for the entire region. Asia has the potential to be financially stronger than the US, Canada, Japan, European Union and Australia combined.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

@Mentee @Ace of Spades @Signalian @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan @Verve @HRK @StormBreaker @Blacklight

One of the most important event occured and I haven't found a thread on this very Strategic Declaration... whatsup with PDF?

President Xi visited Tibet and South Tibet .... went to Lasha palace... the timing and duration of the visit... while a Chinese province is affect adversely by floods.... only underscores the import of this Historic visit.

Unlike us Paks, the Chinese never do anything with purpose or planning.

The recent terrorism in Lahore and Dasu ....PakArmy on AF border.

The joint press release from Sino-Pak FMs... DG ISI is now going to the US with Pak NSA.

Yanks even made a new Quad with Pakistan in it...

The New Political Maps of Pakistan show an open border between China and Pakistan in Ladakh... to be decided later on where to draw the line....

The above are just markers to remind a few obvious things.... however, any Chinese enterprise against the good Indians would be meaninglesss if it doesn't permanentaly alters the PowerArchietecture in the Bay of Bangal.

Can ModiRegime now snatch from the Chinese or us Paks what it so pompusly published as its maps showing entire Ladakh and South Tibet as its own?

Will the US help India?

Does India has the capability to push back PLA?

Oddly enough the AsianCentury won't begin without a clear winner in this game.

Regadless, The Greatest Game is in Town and Pakistan is The Heartland!

Mangus

 

[Ace of Spades]

One of the most important event occured and I haven't found a thread on this very Strategic Declaration... whatsup with PDF?

The joint press release from Sino-Pak FMs... DG ISI is now going to the US with Pak NSA.

Yanks even made a new Quad with Pakistan in it...

Will the US help India?

You have raised very important questions and your observation regarding strategic section being quite is right! The members have not been very active lately with whom you can have discussion with; i am very happy to see you back and would start writing up more often.

First impression after Dasu incident was that Chinese weren't happy but FM and DG's visit have been received very positively and there is a strategic consensus so it seems.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1419102734167379970

https://twitter.com/x/status/1419102736621051906

https://twitter.com/x/status/1419102204938448897

https://twitter.com/x/status/1419102097497198594

https://twitter.com/x/status/1419102100357742595

https://twitter.com/x/status/1419101717984014338

Few takeaways from the statements; China wants Pakistan to get to the bottom of the incident. There would probably be a joint working group. CPEC's development should be moved to "high quality" development. Chinese proactive role in afghanistan.

I see NSA and DG's visit to US in this context CPEC and afg, not just Afghanistan as some may presume. USA is at the point where they are realizing that they are betting on wrong horse; hence the cold shoulder to India when it comes to Afghanistan; any new statements regarding Indian quad against china? US's being a bit too quite with developments in Afg!! After two decades and trillions pumped? There is more to it...

Things are in consolidation mode; SCO, central asia, afghanistan a strategic triangle. And that's where some bradars are being spoilers and the rebuttal of their presence in Afg by talib. Pakistan is the heartland and for once Pakistan is playing her cards very right...

I have a feeling at some level there is consensus that's starting to develop between joint west and china; and hence the frustration from gangaland and her stooges in Afg/Pak. Geo-economic partnerships instead of geo-strategic. The coordinated attack on Bitcoin from US and china wasn't a coincidence. Terms are being rearranged, waters are being tested. Persistence and clarity is a must at this point and for once i have feeling Pakistan would come out of it victorious.

Regarding ladakh; tibet and Pakistan's apparent quietness on Kashmir seems to be the chinese strategy rather than Pakistan's. Extra fronts are being taken care of while china is keeping the gangadeshis at their toes. Exactly what they did with Pakistan by diluting Pakistan's attention towards east Pakistan and later tried by engaging Pakistan on western border. Once this is taken care of; I see major developments. It's all consolidation for now....

US's involvement would come down to the terms they would agree with China; CPEC, digital Yuan, digital currency. And by the optics and instinct; i have a feeling US is realizing that India can't deliver. Expect a big push for weapon sale to India from US. IF that goes through; that would be the beginning of it or the end of it; last nail in the coffin. Add russian intervention once that happens; lots is coming. The game is starting to get interesting.

@Mentee @Blacklight @HRK

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

You have raised very important questions and your observation regarding strategic section being quite is right! The members have not been very active lately with whom you can have discussion with; i am very happy to see you back and would start writing up more often.

First impression after Dasu incident was that Chinese weren't happy but FM and DG's visit have been received very positively and there is a strategic consensus so it seems.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1419102734167379970

https://twitter.com/x/status/1419102736621051906

https://twitter.com/x/status/1419102204938448897

https://twitter.com/x/status/1419102097497198594

https://twitter.com/x/status/1419102100357742595

https://twitter.com/x/status/1419101717984014338

Few takeaways from the statements; China wants Pakistan to get to the bottom of the incident. There would probably be a joint working group. CPEC's development should be moved to "high quality" development. Chinese proactive role in afghanistan.

I see NSA and DG's visit to US in this context CPEC and afg, not just Afghanistan as some may presume. USA is at the point where they are realizing that they are betting on wrong horse; hence the cold shoulder to India when it comes to Afghanistan; any new statements regarding Indian quad against china? US's being a bit too quite with developments in Afg!! After two decades and trillions pumped? There is more to it...

Things are in consolidation mode; SCO, central asia, afghanistan a strategic triangle. And that's where some bradars are being spoilers and the rebuttal of their presence in Afg by talib. Pakistan is the heartland and for once Pakistan is playing her cards very right...

I have a feeling at some level there is consensus that's starting to develop between joint west and china; and hence the frustration from gangaland and her stooges in Afg/Pak. Geo-economic partnerships instead of geo-strategic. The coordinated attack on Bitcoin from US and china wasn't a coincidence. Terms are being rearranged, waters are being tested. Persistence and clarity is a must at this point and for once i have feeling Pakistan would come out of it victorious.

Regarding ladakh; tibet and Pakistan's apparent quietness on Kashmir seems to be the chinese strategy rather than Pakistan's. Extra fronts are being taken care of while china is keeping the gangadeshis at their toes. Exactly what they did with Pakistan by diluting Pakistan's attention towards east Pakistan and later tried by engaging Pakistan on western border. Once this is taken care of; I see major developments. It's all consolidation for now....

US's involvement would come down to the terms they would agree with China; CPEC, digital Yuan, digital currency. And by the optics and instinct; i have a feeling US is realizing that India can't deliver. Expect a big push for weapon sale to India from US. IF that goes through; that would be the beginning of it or the end of it; last nail in the coffin. Add russian intervention once that happens; lots is coming. The game is starting to get interesting.

@Mentee @Blacklight @HRK

Oye Putar Pakistan dae,

We have a border with China in Ladakh... the final line will be drawn when the milestones are reached.

From Shanghai to Islamabad via Sri Nagar.

Frankly, we are at delicate moment in emerging Global Power Architecture... we need to tread carefully as PakState both within and without. @The Eagle

It is easy to talk Geoeconomics on TeeVee but to execute the GeoeconomicPlan require a bit more... perhaps much more.

We shall discuss this in a separate, dedicated thread. Marker.

Tibet is the Palm of China ... the Five Fingers need reattachment... both from historic and Global Power Architecture perspective. We should explore this further....

For China Pakistan is shaping to be its Arm with Hand.

And China is shaping to be Pakistan's Body.

I am fully aware that such an Observation is un-nationalistic... might even appear denegrating. I assure you that is not so.

Pakistan can NEVER develop or become prosperous with the current system designed for the CriminalEnterprise.

For Geoeconomics to bear fruit Pak must become a SolidState and not the current existences of SoftState.

It is the Game of Go that Pakistan must learn from China.

Pres. Xi visiting South Tibet is monumental... it cann't be understated. Marker.

The good Indians were overeager in overselling themselves to the Empire led CombinedWest. All them huggocracies, selfies and Quading...

Deafening voices against Pakistan and shrieking silence against China by the BritishIndia have shown the impotance of the Quading Enterprise with Gangetic state as the Fronline against the Dragon. @StormBreaker

However, this is not enough for truly AsianCentury or Revival of AsianCivilisation. The Centre of Gravity is always one... never two. @Verve @newb3e

As we live in a someone else's world... carrying Hole in OurSouls... artificial creations of the Colonial drawing boards... need to be redrawn.

The idea was that the BritishIndia would keep China out and Pakistan down... never thought of CPEC!!!

PakState/Gov so far has been too appologetic about OurExistence. This needs to change.

Pakistan must operationalise Timur system... to declare the extent of its Full Spectrum Deterence... this is the only way to start the journey of coming out black hole we find ourselves in.

Besides, the ThirdActor Dymancis are leaving Pakistan little choice in Greater ME. @Blacklight @PanzerKiel

BritishIndia can have ICBMs and Pakistan cannot?

You are either a NuclearState or you are not. Because it is not about the bomb....

The Greatest Game is in Town and Pakistan is The Heartland!

As you know... a GreatPower can only become a GreatPower when it dismantles a Challenger.

There is no space for two GreatPowers in Asia...

Xi's visit is an Annoucement/Declaration of Sovereignity on the occupied parts of China... currently adiminstered by the GangeticState.

We should remember JK will be liberated when China wants it to be so...

From Shanghai to Islamabad via Sri Nagar... is a Chinese requirement... so we shouldn't be taking any credit just yet.

Will Modi now visit SouthTibet?

Will he invite DalaiLama to his house?

The good Indians always love to think of themselves as great strategists... but always end up.. well....

The current Chinese strategy of sucking the good Indians into the abyss by subtle movements has paid dividends....

Luckily, the good Indians have Rafale this time... so PLA be worried!!

The dead horse of SAARC is now hanging around the Gangetics' neck... and China has formed a new SouthAsianBlock... Modi is welcome to join the club under Xi's leadership!

All of above is all fancy/dandy and good... but we should NEVER underestimate the Gangetics.... they are going to vent their paralysis against China through terrorism in Pakistan.

Dasu is a litmus test for not only SinoPakAxis but also for the Gangetics-n-Partners... ​

Geoeconomics is BigBoys Game... at least we Paks are now seeing/sensing the Value of Pakistan.

Gawadar is the new Sumarqund!

Mangus

 

[Shazzad123]

Well here is what I think will happen:

1- China will start by launching a massive AI/Cyber attack on India's 3rd grade infrastructure. Within first 6-hours, most of indian civilian communication systems and essential infrastructure will stop working. Within 10 hours all Military communications will be dead.
2- Within first 6-hours, China will destroy all indian satellites.
3- Within first few minutes, China will launch 'Hypersonic' missiles at all Indian nuclear sites. Most of the indian nuclear sites will be destroyed. Those remaining will not be able to communicate.
4- Within first few minutes, China will launch 'Hypersonic' and other missiles to destroy most of indian storage facilities including fuel.
5- Within 24 hours, China will gain Air Superiority. Within one week, most of Indian Airforce will be destroyed.
6- Within 48 hours, all indian border military infrastructure will be destroyed.
7- PLA will then launch massive Ground and naval offensive. Within 48 hours, most of Northern india will be under the control of China. Within 7-days, New Delhi will be under the Chinese Control.
8- In Coordination with Pakistan, all J&K will be conquered by Pakistan along with Indian Punjab.
9- Chinese Naval forces will disrupt Indian Navy to the extent that it remains ineffective.

All in all, 70% of India will fall to China within 7 to 10 days.

Lol China isn't that great at achieving half of this

Indians aren't going to sit back and continue watching

 

[chinasun]

Speaking of isolation, under the opposition of the United States, Belt and Road Initiative has joined 124. who has more friends than China?

 

[chinasun]

China loves peace, and there will be no war between China and India. The problem can only be solved through negotiation. No country will go to war with China on land.

 

[GumNaam]

No country will go to war with China on land.

hold my glass of cow urine, I'll be right back...
- surrendera modi

 

[StormBreaker]

Oye Putar Pakistan dae,

We have a border with China in Ladakh... the final line will be drawn when the milestones are reached.

From Shanghai to Islamabad via Sri Nagar.

Frankly, we are at delicate moment in emerging Global Power Architecture... we need to tread carefully as PakState both within and without. @The Eagle

It is easy to talk Geoeconomics on TeeVee but to execute the GeoeconomicPlan require a bit more... perhaps much more.

We shall discuss this in a separate, dedicated thread. Marker.

Tibet is the Palm of China ... the Five Fingers need reattachment... both from historic and Global Power Architecture perspective. We should explore this further....

For China Pakistan is shaping to be its Arm with Hand.

And China is shaping to be Pakistan's Body.

I am fully aware that such an Observation is un-nationalistic... might even appear denegrating. I assure you that is not so.

Pakistan can NEVER develop or become prosperous with the current system designed for the CriminalEnterprise.

For Geoeconomics to bear fruit Pak must become a SolidState and not the current existences of SoftState.

It is the Game of Go that Pakistan must learn from China.

Pres. Xi visiting South Tibet is monumental... it cann't be understated. Marker.

The good Indians were overeager in overselling themselves to the Empire led CombinedWest. All them huggocracies, selfies and Quading...

Deafening voices against Pakistan and shrieking silence against China by the BritishIndia have shown the impotance of the Quading Enterprise with Gangetic state as the Fronline against the Dragon. @StormBreaker

However, this is not enough for truly AsianCentury or Revival of AsianCivilisation. The Centre of Gravity is always one... never two. @Verve @newb3e

As we live in a someone else's world... carrying Hole in OurSouls... artificial creations of the Colonial drawing boards... need to be redrawn.

The idea was that the BritishIndia would keep China out and Pakistan down... never thought of CPEC!!!

PakState/Gov so far has been too appologetic about OurExistence. This needs to change.

Pakistan must operationalise Timur system... to declare the extent of its Full Spectrum Deterence... this is the only way to start the journey of coming out black hole we find ourselves in.

Besides, the ThirdActor Dymancis are leaving Pakistan little choice in Greater ME. @Blacklight @PanzerKiel

BritishIndia can have ICBMs and Pakistan cannot?

You are either a NuclearState or you are not. Because it is not about the bomb....

The Greatest Game is in Town and Pakistan is The Heartland!

As you know... a GreatPower can only become a GreatPower when it dismantles a Challenger.

There is no space for two GreatPowers in Asia...

Xi's visit is an Annoucement/Declaration of Sovereignity on the occupied parts of China... currently adiminstered by the GangeticState.

We should remember JK will be liberated when China wants it to be so...

From Shanghai to Islamabad via Sri Nagar... is a Chinese requirement... so we shouldn't be taking any credit just yet.

Will Modi now visit SouthTibet?

Will he invite DalaiLama to his house?

The good Indians always love to think of themselves as great strategists... but always end up.. well....

The current Chinese strategy of sucking the good Indians into the abyss by subtle movements has paid dividends....

Luckily, the good Indians have Rafale this time... so PLA be worried!!

The dead horse of SAARC is now hanging around the Gangetics' neck... and China has formed a new SouthAsianBlock... Modi is welcome to join the club under Xi's leadership!

All of above is all fancy/dandy and good... but we should NEVER underestimate the Gangetics.... they are going to vent their paralysis against China through terrorism in Pakistan.

Dasu is a litmus test for not only SinoPakAxis but also for the Gangetics-n-Partners... ​

Geoeconomics is BigBoys Game... at least we Paks are now seeing/sensing the Value of Pakistan.

Gawadar is the new Sumarqund!

Mangus

Pakistan doesn’t deserve your time and art unfortunately !

“The Hijacked Land”

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Pakistan doesn’t deserve your time and art unfortunately !

“The Hijacked Land”

Oye Shahzade,

I understand your feelings...

But mujay hae Hukmae Azan......

Chin up you... Zulm cann't last forever.

Mangus