How To Stop Attacks On Military Bases By Those Wearing Fake Uniforms

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

Both for Pakistan and Afghanistan---I don't understand how difficult it is to maintain security of the base against those entering in fake uniform.

The base entrance must have a machine gun placement overlooking a wider area beyond the entrance.

Anyone military detail entering into the base must park outside of the base gate in a designated fenced area----.

That area must have gun racks---. Everyone must disembark from the trucks and put their guns on the rack with the magazines out of the rifle.

Form a line and walk towards the entrance with their ID's---. One at a time---and at about 25 yards from the entrance---lift their shirts up so that there are no bombs strapped----and then walk into a holding area in line----.

Once they are recognized and acknowledged---they go back and pick up their rifles----in the meantime the dogs can look into the back of the trucks.

There must be a designated RED LINE---any person or vehicle crossing it would be shot at first and asked questions later---.

Any vehicle in that zone---the door will open immediately and driver and passenger would disembark with their weapons held upwards---and same with those in the back of the vehicle----.

There will be no gathering of those getting off the vehicle---but they would double towards the gun rack to put that weapon on the rack----.

This practice would be fully enforced at night time----.

Another important thing to do would be to keep a watch for those coming behind that vehicle---possibly terrorists---who want to find an opportune moment to strike at those entering the base----.

Police check posts on the road en-route to the base----should not confront the travelling force--but rather call the information in to the base asap---unless there are enough troops at the check post to control and confront the party going in---.

The terrorists don a uniform and so conveniently walk / ride into a base and that is not funny anymore.


The only reason I am starting a thread here on this board is to raise a little awareness regarding security issues at the bases in pakistan. Otherwise I would not do anything to further enhance this board----. If the management disagrees with my comments---they can delete this thread.

We all know that the base security management at our assets suck real bad.

 

[yugocrosrb95]

Just implant a NFC chip.

 

[C130]

Just implant a NFC chip.

 

[wiseone2]

Hi,

Both for Pakistan and Afghanistan---I don't understand how difficult it is to maintain security of the base against those entering in fake uniform.

The base entrance must have a machine gun placement overlooking a wider area beyond the entrance.

Anyone military detail entering into the base must park outside of the base gate in a designated fenced area----.

That area must have gun racks---. Everyone must disembark from the trucks and put their guns on the rack with the magazines out of the rifle.

Form a line and walk towards the entrance with their ID's---. One at a time---and at about 25 yards from the entrance---lift their shirts up so that there are no bombs strapped----and then walk into a holding area in line----.

Once they are recognized and acknowledged---they go back and pick up their rifles----in the meantime the dogs can look into the back of the trucks.

There must be a designated RED LINE---any person or vehicle crossing it would be shot at first and asked questions later---.

Any vehicle in that zone---the door will open immediately and driver and passenger would disembark with their weapons held upwards---and same with those in the back of the vehicle----.

There will be no gathering of those getting off the vehicle---but they would double towards the gun rack to put that weapon on the rack----.

This practice would be fully enforced at night time----.

Another important thing to do would be to keep a watch for those coming behind that vehicle---possibly terrorists---who want to find an opportune moment to strike at those entering the base----.

Police check posts on the road en-route to the base----should not confront the travelling force--but rather call the information in to the base asap---unless there are enough troops at the check post to control and confront the party going in---.

The terrorists don a uniform and so conveniently walk / ride into a base and that is not funny anymore.


The only reason I am starting a thread here on this board is to raise a little awareness regarding security issues at the bases in pakistan. Otherwise I would not do anything to further enhance this board----. If the management disagrees with my comments---they can delete this thread.

We all know that the base security management at our assets suck real bad.

keep a single physical point for entrance
have multi-level checking

last it helps not to be funding wackos

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Hi,

Both for Pakistan and Afghanistan---I don't understand how difficult it is to maintain security of the base against those entering in fake uniform.

The base entrance must have a machine gun placement overlooking a wider area beyond the entrance.

Anyone military detail entering into the base must park outside of the base gate in a designated fenced area----.

That area must have gun racks---. Everyone must disembark from the trucks and put their guns on the rack with the magazines out of the rifle.

Form a line and walk towards the entrance with their ID's---. One at a time---and at about 25 yards from the entrance---lift their shirts up so that there are no bombs strapped----and then walk into a holding area in line----.

Once they are recognized and acknowledged---they go back and pick up their rifles----in the meantime the dogs can look into the back of the trucks.

There must be a designated RED LINE---any person or vehicle crossing it would be shot at first and asked questions later---.

Any vehicle in that zone---the door will open immediately and driver and passenger would disembark with their weapons held upwards---and same with those in the back of the vehicle----.

There will be no gathering of those getting off the vehicle---but they would double towards the gun rack to put that weapon on the rack----.

This practice would be fully enforced at night time----.

Another important thing to do would be to keep a watch for those coming behind that vehicle---possibly terrorists---who want to find an opportune moment to strike at those entering the base----.

Police check posts on the road en-route to the base----should not confront the travelling force--but rather call the information in to the base asap---unless there are enough troops at the check post to control and confront the party going in---.

The terrorists don a uniform and so conveniently walk / ride into a base and that is not funny anymore.


The only reason I am starting a thread here on this board is to raise a little awareness regarding security issues at the bases in pakistan. Otherwise I would not do anything to further enhance this board----. If the management disagrees with my comments---they can delete this thread.

We all know that the base security management at our assets suck real bad.

What you listed has been implemented for a long time now; if it hadnt, you'd be hearing an attack on Military bases every day. There are slips every now and then, because terrorists are adapting. They distract, and pounce for the opportunity, meanwhile security personnel are confused on whos who.

 

[GoldenRatio1618]

put leaser line of detection control around the base like 300 meters to 1km if any threat approaching with weapons it detect and send quick alert to every men deployed there..

 

[MastanKhan]

What you listed has been implemented for a long time now; if it hadnt, you'd be hearing an attack on Military bases every day. There are slips every now and then, because terrorists are adapting. They distract, and pounce for the opportunity, meanwhile security personnel are confused on whos who.

Hi,

Seems like it was not implemented at Badabar---not implemented at kamra----not implemented at GHQ.

The terrorist may adapt----but then there are basics to security-----. If the basics are not followed right to a T---there will be problems----.

 

[Humble Analyst]

Hi,

Both for Pakistan and Afghanistan---I don't understand how difficult it is to maintain security of the base against those entering in fake uniform.

The base entrance must have a machine gun placement overlooking a wider area beyond the entrance.

Anyone military detail entering into the base must park outside of the base gate in a designated fenced area----.

That area must have gun racks---. Everyone must disembark from the trucks and put their guns on the rack with the magazines out of the rifle.

Form a line and walk towards the entrance with their ID's---. One at a time---and at about 25 yards from the entrance---lift their shirts up so that there are no bombs strapped----and then walk into a holding area in line----.

Once they are recognized and acknowledged---they go back and pick up their rifles----in the meantime the dogs can look into the back of the trucks.

There must be a designated RED LINE---any person or vehicle crossing it would be shot at first and asked questions later---.

Any vehicle in that zone---the door will open immediately and driver and passenger would disembark with their weapons held upwards---and same with those in the back of the vehicle----.

There will be no gathering of those getting off the vehicle---but they would double towards the gun rack to put that weapon on the rack----.

This practice would be fully enforced at night time----.

Another important thing to do would be to keep a watch for those coming behind that vehicle---possibly terrorists---who want to find an opportune moment to strike at those entering the base----.

Police check posts on the road en-route to the base----should not confront the travelling force--but rather call the information in to the base asap---unless there are enough troops at the check post to control and confront the party going in---.

The terrorists don a uniform and so conveniently walk / ride into a base and that is not funny anymore.


The only reason I am starting a thread here on this board is to raise a little awareness regarding security issues at the bases in pakistan. Otherwise I would not do anything to further enhance this board----. If the management disagrees with my comments---they can delete this thread.

We all know that the base security management at our assets suck real bad.

I think this was due a long time so thank you for starting this thread. Multi layered gate in conjunction with CCTV will assure the security, raise the morale of the troops and will fail the attempts.

keep a single physical point for entrance
have multi-level checking

last it helps not to be funding wackos

So please stop the Wackos support.

 

[untitled]

How about a dedicated intelligence unit whose sole job is to hunt for terrorist sympathizers within the military. Such big brother tactics are necessary within our armed forces nowadays.

 

[thrilainmanila]

Dawn back in 2008/2009 did a report and it showed that army uniforms are sold openly in market places, since the documentary the uniforms have changed and i'm not sure if the same stuff still goes on, but its not like the terrorists have to look far to disguise themselves.

 

[MastanKhan]

How about a dedicated intelligence unit whose sole job is to hunt for terrorist sympathizers within the military. Such big brother tactics are necessary within our armed forces nowadays.

Hi,

Thank you---that is above and beyond at what takes place at the gate----.

You have to look at it---who man's the team at the Gate-----. The team needs to manned by at least a 2nd LT rotated between upto the rank of a Major in charge----.

Th reason for officers is that they are not intimidated and in their presence---the troops are a lot more vigilant.

The guideline has to be that no vehicle stops close to the gate----. Distance must be maintained at all costs----.

The gate needs to know if any detail is coming in at night time---and all procedures need to be followed.

And once the detail is cleared to move in---eyes need to be kept open to see if anyone wants to sneak behind.


Let me give you an example----my brother in law opened up a large store in a big city pakistan----. It got robbed one night---. He had 3 guards all outside----. Robbers came in a brand new car at 4 in the morning----2 guys came out---hands stretched out in anticipation to shake the hands and exchange greetings----the moment they got close----pulled out guns on the armed guards---and robbed the place and gone in minutes.

Next night---the guards are back at the same place in a similar manner----. I found out about a week later---.

I told him that you are doing it all wrong----you don't need guards outside----outside guards are vulnerable---. You keep them inside of the store---you already have video cameras---if someone comes in to break in---at least your guards will have the time to call the police---they can make noise from inside to warn those outside----.

Next item was---instruct the guards not to shake hands with anyone---that is not what their job is.

Remember the BBC reporter outside Osama Bin Laden compound---how he got close to the gate---he had his hand stretched out----the young policeman---did not any better to refse it---he took has hand away from the gun and shook it thus allowing the Reporter to get closer with the camera following right behind.

There is no magic to security----just simple basics---. But the thing is just like in car sales----simple basics need to be repeated twice a week---

For a salesman---once on a friday before the start of the big weekend---and then on monday---to re-start the week.

Security precautions need to be repeated again and again---all of us have a tendency to be lax after awhile.

 

[iPhone]

Incompetence. That's the only reason why attacks on military bases were not stopped, time after time. There should have been only one attack on the military base in Pakistan, the GHQ.

Army was caught off guard during that attack, did not understand the true capability of the ttp, it's reasonably understandable. But then attack after attack? Kamra, and the navy, and the navy ships, then more bases, millions of dollars worth aircraft destroyed and went up in smoke.

And then this year we see another attack on a military base where we lost so many good men and an exceptionally bright young officer.

After the GHQ attack, security around these bases should have been heavily top notch. Every attack should have been thwarted and obliterated without any exceptions. But only thing we saw in the aftermath was more incompetence resulting in more deaths and more destruction of important assets.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Most military bases have to be removed from city center to outskirts

> 1 KM zone for tracking people entering or exiting
> Availability of APC / Stand by
> Towers
> Electrical Fences
> Special Forces ID badges

 

[Maarkhoor]

Attacks on high value military targets always carried out by insider info and help a person serving their observing each and every thing for years must know the weak points so he may tell anybody intentionally or unintentionally which prove fatal for the security.
Many our high value military installations very close to people moving them away in a complete isolated area fenced far away surroundings anybody comes to this that area can be easily picked out.

 

[django]

Hi,

Both for Pakistan and Afghanistan---I don't understand how difficult it is to maintain security of the base against those entering in fake uniform.

The base entrance must have a machine gun placement overlooking a wider area beyond the entrance.

Anyone military detail entering into the base must park outside of the base gate in a designated fenced area----.

That area must have gun racks---. Everyone must disembark from the trucks and put their guns on the rack with the magazines out of the rifle.

Form a line and walk towards the entrance with their ID's---. One at a time---and at about 25 yards from the entrance---lift their shirts up so that there are no bombs strapped----and then walk into a holding area in line----.

Once they are recognized and acknowledged---they go back and pick up their rifles----in the meantime the dogs can look into the back of the trucks.

There must be a designated RED LINE---any person or vehicle crossing it would be shot at first and asked questions later---.

Any vehicle in that zone---the door will open immediately and driver and passenger would disembark with their weapons held upwards---and same with those in the back of the vehicle----.

There will be no gathering of those getting off the vehicle---but they would double towards the gun rack to put that weapon on the rack----.

This practice would be fully enforced at night time----.

Another important thing to do would be to keep a watch for those coming behind that vehicle---possibly terrorists---who want to find an opportune moment to strike at those entering the base----.

Police check posts on the road en-route to the base----should not confront the travelling force--but rather call the information in to the base asap---unless there are enough troops at the check post to control and confront the party going in---.

The terrorists don a uniform and so conveniently walk / ride into a base and that is not funny anymore.


The only reason I am starting a thread here on this board is to raise a little awareness regarding security issues at the bases in pakistan. Otherwise I would not do anything to further enhance this board----. If the management disagrees with my comments---they can delete this thread.

We all know that the base security management at our assets suck real bad.

Excellent post @MastanKhan , the folks at GHQ could surely enhance perimeter security, at times it has been a joke , I can still recall an incident in I believe Dargai where jawans where performing morning calisthenics and some suicide bomber without even a uniform walked up to them and detonated his vest martyring 42 jawans, bloody outrageous the lack of any perimeter security, heads should have rolled yet a single lesson was not learnt.kudos