How the father of Indian N-bomb stalled strike on Pak nuclear sites

[Zarvan]

Raja Ramanna. (TOI Photo)

MUMBAI: In a strange twist of irony, the person who was responsible for stalling India's plan to bomb Pakistan's nuclear weapons facilities in 1983 was none other than the father of the Indian nuclear bomb, Raja Ramanna. Ramanna himself had confirmed this to TOI on two occasions in private conversations after his retirement as chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission in 1987. He passed away in Mumbai on September 24, 2004.

TOI had carried a report on Tuesday, quoting a CIA document declassified in June, stating that former PM Indira Gandhi may have considered destroying Pakistan's nuclear weapons programme when she returned to office in 1980. Though Ramanna had declined to go into specifics, he had recalled to TOI that in 1983, when he was in Vienna to attend an International Atomic Energy Agency meet, he was "warned" by ex-chairman of the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission Munir Ahmed Khan that if India hit its nuclear facilities, Pakistan would launch a retaliatory strike at BARC, Trombay, in Mumbai, the heart of India's nuclear weapons programme. Ramanna immediately informed Indira about the dangerous consequences of bombing Pakistan's nuclear establishment and the operation was stopped.

The story goes that when Khan was attending the IAEA meet, he received a classified coded message about India's plans through the Pakistani ex-ambassador to Vienna, Abdul Sattar. That night, Khan invited Ramanna for dinner at the Imperial Hotel and the two arch rivals talked for a while. Then the moment arrived when Khan decided to say why he had suddenly called for the dinner meeting: it was not to exchange pleasantries but to deliver a stiff warning about the retaliatory strike on BARC.

Whether Ramanna knew of this plan earlier remains unclear. But the first thing he did on his arrival from Vienna was to rush to Indira. He conveyed to her Khan's warning and succeeded in making her scrap the ide a altogether. In the book 'Nuclear Deception' by Adrian Levy and Catherine Scott-Clark, it is stated that India's plan was code-named 'Osirak Contingency', after the Israeli bombing of the Iraqi nuclear weapons plant at Osirak, 18 miles south of Baghdad, in 1981.According to the book, ex-IAF chief Dilbaug Singh was to have commanded the Pakistani operation and had ordered a Jaguar squadron to practice low-level flying with 2,000-pound bombs - a squadron had been kept on standby at the Jamnagar air force base to carry out the attack at a moment's notice.

Then, when the CIA got hint of India's plans, it alerted the US administration. The US state department then flashed a strong message to India: "The US will be responsive if India persists." Ramanna's message to Gandhi quoting Khan along with the US state department warning made Gandhi evetually scrap the operation, which upset both Indian military planners and Israel.




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[Alpha BeeTee]

And India whines that she wants peace ...
What a stubborn neighbor we got.
This also reinforces the Pakistani claim that Indians have always embraced a false superiority complex when it came to Pakistan.

 

[Zarvan]

And India whines that she wants peace ...
What a stubborn neighbor we got.
This also reinforces the Pakistani claim that Indians have always embraced a false superiority complex when it came to Pakistan.

Important thing is we told India if they try something stupid they will get the answer and we would hit them inside India.

 

[punit]

now Indian media is fully reliable ! TOI no longer Toilet paper !

Raja Ramanna. (TOI Photo)
MUMBAI: In a strange twist of irony, the person who was responsible for stalling India's plan to bomb Pakistan's nuclear weapons facilities in 1983 was none other than the father of the Indian nuclear bomb, Raja Ramanna. Ramanna himself had confirmed this to TOI on two occasions in private conversations after his retirement as chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission in 1987. He passed away in Mumbai on September 24, 2004.

TOI had carried a report on Tuesday, quoting a CIA document declassified in June, stating that former PM Indira Gandhi may have considered destroying Pakistan's nuclear weapons programme when she returned to office in 1980. Though Ramanna had declined to go into specifics, he had recalled to TOI that in 1983, when he was in Vienna to attend an International Atomic Energy Agency meet, he was "warned" by ex-chairman of the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission Munir Ahmed Khan that if India hit its nuclear facilities, Pakistan would launch a retaliatory strike at BARC, Trombay, in Mumbai, the heart of India's nuclear weapons programme. Ramanna immediately informed Indira about the dangerous consequences of bombing Pakistan's nuclear establishment and the operation was stopped.

The story goes that when Khan was attending the IAEA meet, he received a classified coded message about India's plans through the Pakistani ex-ambassador to Vienna, Abdul Sattar. That night, Khan invited Ramanna for dinner at the Imperial Hotel and the two arch rivals talked for a while. Then the moment arrived when Khan decided to say why he had suddenly called for the dinner meeting: it was not to exchange pleasantries but to deliver a stiff warning about the retaliatory strike on BARC.

Whether Ramanna knew of this plan earlier remains unclear. But the first thing he did on his arrival from Vienna was to rush to Indira. He conveyed to her Khan's warning and succeeded in making her scrap the ide a altogether. In the book 'Nuclear Deception' by Adrian Levy and Catherine Scott-Clark, it is stated that India's plan was code-named 'Osirak Contingency', after the Israeli bombing of the Iraqi nuclear weapons plant at Osirak, 18 miles south of Baghdad, in 1981.According to the book, ex-IAF chief Dilbaug Singh was to have commanded the Pakistani operation and had ordered a Jaguar squadron to practice low-level flying with 2,000-pound bombs - a squadron had been kept on standby at the Jamnagar air force base to carry out the attack at a moment's notice.

Then, when the CIA got hint of India's plans, it alerted the US administration. The US state department then flashed a strong message to India: "The US will be responsive if India persists." Ramanna's message to Gandhi quoting Khan along with the US state department warning made Gandhi evetually scrap the operation, which upset both Indian military planners and Israel.




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does Pakistan has any Plane which can hit Mumbai? how many times PAF managed to hit Maharashtra in 1965 and 71 wars.

 

[Zarvan]

now Indian media is fully reliable ! TOI no longer Toilet paper !


does Pakistan has any Plane which can hit Mumbai? how many times PAF managed to hit Maharashtra in 1965 and 71 wars.

We have planes and we can do that without any issue Sir.

 

[al_asad_al_mulk]

Indira Gandhi considered military strike on Pakistan’s nuclear sites: CIA document
Such a consideration by the then Indian Prime Minister was being made when the US was in an advanced stage of providing its fighter jets F-16 to Pakistan

Returning to power in 1980, the then Prime Minister Indira Gandhi had considered a military strike on Pakistan’s nuclear installations to prevent it from acquiring weapons capabilities, a declassified CIA document has claimed. Such a consideration by the then Indian Prime Minister was being made when the US was in an advanced stage of providing its fighter jets F-16 to Pakistan, says the September 8, 1981, document titled ‘India’s Reaction to Nuclear Developments in Pakistan’, which was prepared by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). A redacted version of the 12-page document was posted on the CIA website in June this year, according to which the then Indian government led by Gandhi in 1981 was concerned about the progress made by Pakistan on its nuclear weapons programme and believed that Islamabad was steps away from acquiring a nuclear weapon. The US had the same assessment.
“In the extreme case, if Indian concerns increase over the next two or three months, we believe the conditions could be ripe for a decision by Prime Minister Gandhi to instigate a military confrontation with Pakistan, primarily to provide a framework for destroying Pakistan’s nuclear facilities,” the then highly sensitive CIA report claimed. At the time of writing of the report, the CIA said Gandhi had not taken any such decision in that regard. According to the report, as Pakistan was in an advanced stage of producing plutonium and highly enriched uranium for use in nuclear weapons, Gandhi evidently responded to the threat by authorising Indian nuclear test preparations. “In February (1981), excavation was begun in the Thar desert to permit the underground explosion of an Indian test device on short notice,” the CIA said, adding that in May, preparations had been completed by India for a 40-kiloton nuclear test. The CIA said India reportedly was to explode the device about one week after the expected Pakistani test. “Evidently, the Indian Government calculated that a Pakistani nuclear explosion per se would not constitute a national security threat, and that the damage to India’s image of pre-eminence in the region could be minimised by a resumption of the peaceful nuclear explosive (PNE) programme,” the CIA said. “Prime Minister Gandhi probably has not made a decision to exercise a military option against Pakistan. In the extreme case, if India’s concern about deliveries of F-16s to Pakistan increases before the optimum time for exercising the military option (in October or November according to one report), the conditions could be ripe for Prime Minister Gandhi to carry out the contingency strike plan,” it said. “Our best estimate, however, is that India will follow a wait and see strategy,” the report added.
Indira Gandhi considered military strike on Pakistan’s nuclear sites: CIA document | The Indian Express

 

[syedali73]

Being a nuclear scientist himself, he was aware of the consequences. Though the same message was delivered to Bharatis through several other platforms.

 

[punit]

We have planes and we can do that without any issue Sir.

which ones sir ! and now many times PAF managed to attack Mumbai in 65 and 71 wars !

 

[Manas]

" Then, when the CIA got hint of India's plans, it alerted the US administration. The US state department then flashed a strong message to India: "The US will be responsive if India persists. "

So it was the American pressure which stopped India from bombing Pakistani nuke sites .

Bloody American was always gave covert support for Pakistani nuclear program in the 1980s otherwise Pakistan could have never acquired nucleate weapon capability like Iran .

 

[Echo_419]

And India whines that she wants peace ...
What a stubborn neighbor we got.
This also reinforces the Pakistani claim that Indians have always embraced a false superiority complex when it came to Pakistan.

Now the Indian media has become reliabel

 

[Rajput_Pakistani]

which ones sir ! and now many times PAF managed to attack Mumbai in 65 and 71 wars !

In 1983, Pakistan have got hold of then latest F-16, which can reach Bombay.

 

[Zarvan]

" Then, when the CIA got hint of India's plans, it alerted the US administration. The US state department then flashed a strong message to India: "The US will be responsive if India persists. "

So it was the American pressure which stopped India from bombing Pakistani nuke sites .

Bloody American was always gave covert support for Pakistani nuclear program in the 1980s otherwise Pakistan could have never acquired nucleate weapon capability like Iran .

They could have done nothing they needed us in Afghanistan and we by 1984 had completed the work and bomb was ready

 

[punit]

In 1983, Pakistan have got hold of then latest F-16, which can reach Bombay.

by flowing all over Gujarat ?

 

[untitled]

by flowing all over Gujarat ?

Yup trombhoy is reachable

The route we take is up to us

 

[punit]

Yup trombhoy is reachable

The route we take is up to us

do try !