How Olympic sacred torch protected, mobs subdued

[gpit]

As the Olympic sacred torch passed Kazakhstan, Turkey, Russia, UK, and should be entering France now. There are a lot of pictures showing how the security force - "blue guards", reportedly Chinese Kungfu masters, heroically subdued the mobs and successfully protected the torch.

Reportedly, France will dedicate 3000 security personals to protect the torch.

Hats off to the "blue guards":

In Turkey:

In London:

In London:

Hats off to the constables of London: mobs subdued (all following pictures)

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Sad that the Flame is to be heroically protected.

Hardly sacred, unless of course one takes the hocus pocus of the theatre lady's antics as sacred!

 

[gpit]

As a Tibet mob showed his ugly and violent face in an attempt to steal the sacred torch by brutally beating the torch bearer, a handicapped girl, with a blind boy pushing the wheelchair behind...

Confronting the devil with an iron will, she bravely protected the torch with her feeble body whole heartedly ...

Justice eventually prevailed. The evil crumbled with a thud ...

Standing ovation to our heroine of Olympics...

Let it be remembered in Olympic history: her name is Jing Jing. She said:"Want the torch? Unless you step on my dead body!" She is 27, a fencer on wheelchair. She got her leg amputated in May, 1989....

 

[EagleEyes]

Is it for money or protest? Unless you roll in some tanks..and helicopters.. dont bother.

 

[gpit]

That is why the Chinese and peace-loving people worldwide hate violent Tibetan mobs.

That is why human scums worldwide love violent Tibetan mobs.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

True, they are peace loving, so long as the peace is as dictated by them!!

 

[roadrunner]

True, they are peace loving, so long as the peace is as dictated by them!!

I think your views on China and Tibet are very hypocritical Salim.

You obviously seem to believe that Tibet is not a part of China. The same could be said (with even greater certainty) that Kashmir is not a part of India. There is more injustice in the India-Kashmir issue than in the China-Tibet issue, since

• The India-Kashmir issue is less than a hundred years old
• The Kashmiris were promised a plebiscite

There has been no recent distinct history between Tibet and China, and definitely no plebsicite was promised them. Both these make the India-Kashmir issue much worse than China-Tibet.

If you support India on its Kashmir issue but not China on Tibet, then you're showing double standards.

 

[Awesome]

Sad that the Flame is to be heroically protected.

Hardly sacred, unless of course one takes the hocus pocus of the theatre lady's antics as sacred!

It's well known the entire anti-Chinese part of the world was out to show one down to China by damaging this run.

It was a question of national pride. By these failed attempts not only did China make a fool of this part of the world, but also showed that these fringe lunatics belong to a group of people who would cowardly attack crippled people and hurt innocent sportsmen in the run.

China and Olympics have practically been made synonymous. Not just for now, but even in the future.

 

[Logic note]

It's well known the entire anti-Chinese part of the world was out to show one down to China by damaging this run.

It was a question of national pride. By these failed attempts not only did China make a fool of this part of the world, but also showed that these fringe lunatics belong to a group of people who would cowardly attack crippled people and hurt innocent sportsmen in the run.

China and Olympics have practically been made synonymous. Not just for now, but even in the future.

No one hates China .. ITS THE POLICIES of an autocratic regime against its own people which is questioned .
Olympics is used as tool by this regime to justify this ideology , now it depends on you if you want to support this tyrant regime or stand up to the principles , for which the entire Pakistan fought for .

 

[roadrunner]

No one hates China .. ITS THE POLICIES of an autocratic regime against its own people which is questioned .
Olympics is used as tool by this regime to justify this ideology , now it depends on you if you want to support this tyrant regime or stand up to the principles , for which the entire Pakistan fought for .

Just because India slaps the illusion of a democratic state onto itself, doesn't mean that a democratic regime's actions are any better than an autocratic one's. The autocratic one being China on Tibet, the "democratic" one being India on Kashmir - the central government in India might be democratic, but the Kashmiris never had the option to choose to which country they belonged to. This behaviour is a democracy acting autocratically to define its borders.

I'm curious how you justify India's stranglehold on Kashmir, yet criticize China's position on Tibet. China signed the 17th agreement with the consent of the Tibetan government in 1951. Officially then, Tibet became part of China at this time. You cannot argue that the 17th agreement did not represent the viewpoint of the people, since the annexation of Kashmir into the Indian Constitution was not done with the will of the people. If you cannot justify this, you too are showing a double standard.

Or do you support plebiscite in Kashmir? If so, fine, if not, hypocrisy. Nothing more.

 

[Malang]

Just because India slaps the illusion of a democratic state onto itself, doesn't mean that a democratic regime's actions are any better than an autocratic one's.

are you a Pakistani?

and why is India not a democracy?

The autocratic one being China on Tibet, the "democratic" one being India on Kashmir - the central government in India might be democratic, but the Kashmiris never had the option to choose to which country they belonged to. This behaviour is a democracy acting autocratically to define its borders.
I'm curious how you justify India's stranglehold on Kashmir, yet criticize China's position on Tibet. China signed the 17th agreement with the consent of the Tibetan government in 1951. Officially then, Tibet became part of China at this time. You cannot argue that the 17th agreement did not represent the viewpoint of the people, since the annexation of Kashmir into the Indian Constitution was not done with the will of the people. If you cannot justify this, you too are showing a double standard.

Do you support freedom for Kashmir? and not for Tibet I presume.. Is this hypocrisy?

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

RR,

You are for Pak inspired Kashmir.

What about Freed Tibet?

Come on chum, dying to hear form you!

Expose your hypocritical mortality.

Please do!

 

[roadrunner]

RR,

You are for Pak inspired Kashmir.

What about Freed Tibet?

Come on chum, dying to hear form you!

Expose your hypocritical mortality.

Please do!

This is the difference. Kashmir was forcibly annexed into India without the consent of the people. Yet you cry foul when China does the same in Tibet (I'm assuming Tibet was forcibly annexed by China). This is a double standard.

For me, I do not have any opinion on Tibet or China. I DO have an opinion about Kashmir. Both of you have opinions on both Kashmir and Tibet and have expressed them. If you can follow this, you will realize I'm not being a hypocrite, but you are being one.

I should add that the Kashmiris were legally promised plebiscite through international law. The Tibetans have never been promised this. Therefore, if one claims the Kashmiris do deserve a plebiscite, the Tibetans do not, then this would be acceptable since it does not argue against international law.

 

[gpit]

No one hates China .. ITS THE POLICIES of an autocratic regime against its own people which is questioned .

Very imperialistic, isn't it?

Now, on your side, if you attempt to impose you political system on those countries that have different systems, better first show the others that yours are stronger, better. Otherwise don' t even pitifully bother. Secondly, even if you have a better system, that doesn't necessarily mean it will be the same goodness when the others adopt it.

One Sweden forumer once posted that some Indians are imperialistic. Frankly I was not quite there, because imperialists normally gave people an impression of from strong society and military..., not that with 40% illiteracy, huge amount of death due to negligence, etc..

Olympics is used as tool by this regime to justify this ideology , now it depends on you if you want to support this tyrant regime or stand up to the principles , for which the entire Pakistan fought for .

Host city for 2008 Olympics is democratically bid/voted among members of international society.

If it is to "support tyranny", this is the democratic decision of the world.

Why don't you India participate in the Olympic bidding to show that your type of democracy can prevail? And to justify your ideology?

 

[gpit]

Free Tibet - but where is the Tibet? Ask those brainwashed:

twHzXN3kNTs[/media] - Free Tibet, wait, where is Tibet?