How much is it his own making: Imran Khan Down Fall?

[imadul]

When

That means you dont understand English and need help or you are just plain lying.
Do you know imran khans stance on ukraine war? He was also against Russia invasion. It's his principle to be against any military solution. In wake of this chief used the word 'condone' not 'condemn' for russian invasion and he acknowledged Russias security concerns regardless.

When one does not have argument they resort to name calling to pump up their tiny ego.

This is what he said,
“Sadly, the Russian invasion is very unfortunate as thousands of people have been killed, millions made refugees and half of Ukraine destroyed,” he said, stressing the need to address the issue “immediately”.

PTI stated policy was to not to take side in this conflict. Who gave this 22 grade general rights to go against govt policy? And talk on foreign policy? Not his domain.
If he has honor, he should had resign and then differ. But these goon generals consider them above law, constitution, and country. At will they occupy own country by martial law, hang prime ministers, throw governments, puppeteer judges, allot lands to themselves and think they can go scot-free.
لیکن اب تمہیں ٹکر کے لوگ ملے ہیں۔
زرداری اور نواز مافیا نہیں جنکو تم ایک ڈانٹ میں تھلے لگا لیتے تھے۔

This cancer will be removed through chemotherapy.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Sadly, the Russian invasion is very unfortunate as thousands of people have been killed, millions made refugees and half of Ukraine destroyed,” he said, stressing the need to address the issue “immediately”.

And thats imran khans view as well dumbo

PTI stated policy was to not to take side in this conflict.

The statement doesn't contradict neutrality. Because you are eating the other half of his statement where he states we acknowledge russias security concerns. The moment canadian ambassador closed her eyes with fingers crossed. Lol.

 

[imadul]

Reta

And thats imran khans view as well dumbo


The statement doesn't contradict neutrality. Because you are eating the other half of his statement where he states we acknowledge russias security concerns. The moment canadian ambassador closed her eyes with fingers crossed. Lol.

Your janral is a grade 22 defense department employee. It is not his position to give policy statement on foreign policy.
The times for Man donning many caps to destroy Pakistan and its society are at its last throes and people like you won't be able to stop it.
THE END.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

Usman Buzdar caused his downfall. IK would have walked away from worst blunders if he had not tagged onto BUZDAR---.

My younger sister says---if the TURKS have recognized Israel---then why does pakistan have any problem with it. Then it suddenly dawned upon me that the Turks were the last rulers of the area that is palestine---and they have accepted the fact that Jerusalem / palestine are gone.

Any other nation making this an issue are have no right to contest after Turkiyah's admission.

IK had no cause to take a stand on israel. His first priority should have been pakistan and pakistan alone.

IK had no authority to put the existence of pakistan on stake for this stand.

 

[imadul]

Hi,

Usman Buzdar caused his downfall. IK would have walked away from worst blunders if he had not tagged onto BUZDAR---.

My younger sister says---if the TURKS have recognized Israel---then why does pakistan have any problem with it. Then it suddenly dawned upon me that the Turks were the last rulers of the area that is palestine---and they have accepted the fact that Jerusalem / palestine are gone.

Any other nation making this an issue are have no right to contest after Turkiyah's admission.

IK had no cause to take a stand on israel. His first priority should have been pakistan and pakistan alone.

IK had no authority to put the existence of pakistan on stake for this stand.

If Pakistan recognize israel it shall loose its case on kashmir.
Israelite claim palestine because they lived there two millennia ago. Palestinian are living in an open prison.
How this injustice can be accepted because we are weak?

Also Allah has not taken retirement.

وَلَقَدْ كَتَبْنَا فِى ٱلزَّبُورِ مِنۢ بَعْدِ ٱلذِّكْرِ أَنَّ ٱلْأَرْضَ يَرِثُهَا عِبَادِىَ ٱلصَّٰلِحُونَ
Al anbia 21:105
Arberry: For We have written in the Psalms, after the Remembrance, 'The earth shall be the inheritance of My righteous servants.'

Land or earth here refer to Alquds which is our first Qibla.
Psalms/Zabur refers to Alquds as Messenger Daud was king over those lands.

 

[xyxmt]

His was a new dimension, a new voice, and a vision, and he struggled ardently for 17 years to get major triumph in 2013 elections forming KPK government and second largest in NA.
In 2018 he again won KPK, formed Punjab and federal governments with difficult compromises.
First year was spent to know how to govern. He performed well in atrocious conditions of COVID-19 pandemic and resurrected stagnant economy. All this time PMIK outsourced lots of political debt to now so-called NEUTRALS who got more and more control.

IK says he knew about conspiracies for about an year, yet he did not ACT!

Conspiracies CLIMAXED in March-April. He remained undecisive. General Bajwa who was actively shuffling political cards after IK resisted DG ISI appointment loathefully bared his real face during Islamabad Security Dialogue when he flagrantly opposed civil government declared policy on Russia-Ukraine crisis. It was the time IK should have shown mettle and fired double faced General Bajwa.
In coming few weeks Bajwa blockaded few remaining options and gave final order to attack.
IK resisted, but still could not declassify the cipher due to undecisiveness. Courts convened midnight on April 9th, 2022.
IK legal team could not present a forceful case, did not present the cipher and chose to send the cipher separately later rather as an evidence and in its full form.

In the battle of power, weakness and undecisiveness are self inflicted blows while the enemy is a trained ruthless puppet master who uses cold hearted calculation of an assassin to drive the final blow, one is only left to lament.

They control the judiciary and bureaucracy, they always have cases open against all politicians and can bring any judgement any time against any politician as they wish and when they wish. They tell bureaucracy what to do which orders to implement and not. They control the entire election process. He could have fired Bajwa and but order would have disappeared in lala land.

 

[MastanKhan]

If Pakistan recognize israel it shall loose its case on kashmir.
Israelite claim palestine because they lived there two millennia ago. Palestinian are living in an open prison.
How this injustice can be accepted because we are weak?

Also Allah has not taken retirement.

وَلَقَدْ كَتَبْنَا فِى ٱلزَّبُورِ مِنۢ بَعْدِ ٱلذِّكْرِ أَنَّ ٱلْأَرْضَ يَرِثُهَا عِبَادِىَ ٱلصَّٰلِحُونَ
Al anbia 21:105
Arberry: For We have written in the Psalms, after the Remembrance, 'The earth shall be the inheritance of My righteous servants.'

Land or earth here refer to Alquds which is our first Qibla.
Psalms/Zabur refers to Alquds as Messenger Daud was king over those lands.

Son,

It is the Will of Allah that the israelis have taken over the region---( in your mind, you are having a hard time accepting that Allah has rejected The Muslims and made the jews succeed over the ).

Are you forgetting that nothing happens without the will of Allah.

Kashmir has nothing to do with Israel.

Palestinians have chosen to live in situation they are in.

They had many options and yet they failed at every step.

 

[baqai]

An experiment which went horribly wrong, should have learned from Altaf fiasco but they had to create another player against PPP and PMLN to try and keep balance of power, Jamat-e-Islami no longer makes a cut when it comes to mass popularity

 

[Enigma SIG]

Of course he made mistakes.

He should have castrated the mafia nexus (establishment/bureaucracy/waderas) the moment he came to power. But he chose to do let time wear them out which as time would tell us is on the mafia's side.

 

[Crystal-Clear]

He never had a majority, he lost his allies and his coalition fell apart.

 

[maithil]

Not his fault. Pakistan’s military can not tolerate any person completing his term. That would be a bad precedence for their future.That would give hope to budding democrats. They don't want that. Imran Khan is trying to upend that equation.

 

[Crystal-Clear]

Ukraine is irrelevant. Up until Nov 2021, the army backed IK's government actively and directly, most critically by supplying them allies in parliament to give them their thin majority and to pass bills. IK lost their confidence in November due to the DG ISI appointment controversy, and then the people who'd been trying to remove him just had to make sure that enough "wickets fell" as PTI used to say in the past, and then IK stood no chance in parliament. Despite having tried everything he could to avoid it.

It's really that simple, Imran would have us engage in lengthy mental gymnastics about a plot, US involvement, a cypher, etc. Tbh, I don't know what for example US involvement might have changed? Who did they pay off exactly? Opposition were against him since day one and the army backed off support due to the DG ISI thing, so what value do these conspiracies add to the above?​

Why dont we just make a commission and investigate cypher? After all president of PAKISTAN ask for it. Rora kon daal raha ?
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I say make it public ek hi baar mey sara qissa mukey ,imran jhuta ha to samney aajani baat .

 

[insight-out]

Of course he made mistakes. But hindsight is 2020. He made some bad decisions, but he thought they were right at the time. Holding him responsible for his own ouster is akin to victim blaming.

He was a victim of a crime. He was betrayed by the army leadership and judiciary. When you are betrayed by the very people who are supposed to uphold the law, then there is really not much you can do.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Reta
Your janral is a grade 22 defense department employee. It is not his position to give policy statement on foreign policy.
The times for Man donning many caps to destroy Pakistan and its society are at its last throes and people like you won't be able to stop it.
THE END.

I think you are forgetting the state decides foreign policy..not necessarily an elected guy.

 

[Black.Mamba]

He never had a majority, he lost his allies and his coalition fell apart.

Yes, this is how it was executed here. Different methods are adopted in different regions of the world depending on the ground realities; in some places, it is directly executed by the military in some others it is the opposition, sometimes it is both and sometimes it is some third factor. Regime change can also be imposed on a country by foreign actors through invasion, overt or covert interventions, or coercive diplomacy.

The points you should ponder upon:

1. Over a dozen parties with extremely opposing philosophies coming on one page, how so? (joining hands with your mother & grandfather's killers/enablers is a new low)

2. Taking over the country at the crossroads of economic crisis and bankruptcy

3. As the saying goes, when your enemy is making a mistake don't interrupt them. Supposedly IK's tenure was extremely poor and it would have been a final nail in the coffin for PTI yet they made sure to breathe a new life into it.

4. Courts opening on midnight even on petition of unknown individuals while the petitions of government being rejected at around 2.30 PM on pretext of "after office hours"

So If your answer is all of this is done to benefit themselves against corruption cases. First of all, congratulations that you have admitted to their corruption, secondly their cases weren't getting anywhere in the last 40 years - in most cases, the IOs, witnesses, judges, and prosecutors all develop sudden cardiac problems before passing away or they get unlimited reliefs from court just like NS sitting in London and no court is daring to ask his guarantor about the guarantee he furnished before the honorable court.

You should also ponder upon:

1. Does the US have a history of orchestrating a regime change?
2. Does our politicians, bureaucrats, generals, and judges have assets in the US or in its major allies?
3. Which countries do these officers eventually settle into after retirement?
4. Does the US have a history of asking us to "do more" above and beyond the usual or even sometimes what is considered legal or according to diplomatic norms?
5. What is the most appropriate forum to investigate the regime change claim?
6. What is the status of any investigation in this regard, so much so is there even any investigation going on?
7. Four back to back benches were made in the span of 24 hours to deliberate upon the Mariam safdar's passport return, was there even a single bench formed to investigate regime change?