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How do you I know if I am an extremist or a moderate?
March 24, 20170229


Asma Razaq |

A few days back, I met my friends in the canteen of my university, where I post-graduated from, in Islamabad. During gossips, one of my friends asked me, “What do you think about the murder of former Governor of Punjab, Salmaan Taseer by his security guard? Was it justifiable or just an act of inhumanity and extremism?” That sensitive question was totally unexpected as all of us were just sharing our job experiences and professional careers.

Mr. Taseer was shot by his security guard Mumtaz Qadri in broad daylight in Islamabad, maintaining that the former had blasphemed, as he sought to reform the blasphemy laws. Qadri was convicted and then hanged last year.

“It was insanely inhuman”, I was loud. My friend, Anjum, who asked me this question, at once started looking straight into my eyes. “You sure?” He asked with a suddenly changed tone. “What if someone utters something impious concerning our God or the Holy Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W)? Shouldn’t we take any immediate action against him so that he could be punished hard for what he did?”

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I was speechless to some extent, but then after rebuilding my confidence, I said, “No one should be allowed to decide what is right and what is wrong and punish others as per his discretion. Could you present even a single verse of the Holy Quran or any example from the Hadith which shows that the convicted of blasphemy should be sentenced to death?”

There are three schools of thoughts in our country: one religiously extremist, second moderate, and the third one is extremely liberal.

The reaction of my friends sitting at the table for tea and light snacks was unbelievable. Their faces had turned red with anger. Two of them, while yelling at me, said, “You are gradually getting away from your religion and its values. You are trying to behave as if you are a liberal Muslim, but the reality is that you have completely forgotten your religious values, emotions, and ethics”.

This behavior of my friends was unexpected. All of them were highly educated. But without thinking even for a single moment, they just expressed what was in their hearts. This was both ridiculous and ironic.

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After going through all what happened during our get-together, I reached a conclusion.

The General Mindsets in Our Society

There are three schools of thoughts in our country: one religiously extremist, second moderate, and the third one is extremely liberal. What I did, put me in the third category, while the behavior of my friends fits them into first. There was no one on the table from the second category.

We are either religiously or liberally extremist, but no one dares to be from the second category that could bring a positive, revolutionary thought in the mindsets of our society.

If we want a reform in self-obtained laws, we are convicted of blasphemy. If we want the courts to decide what is right or wrong about the persons convicted of blasphemy, we are deemed far away from our religion and its values.

This conflict would go on till the emergence of a moderate mindset in society.
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We are either religiously or liberally extremist, but no one dares to be from the second category that could bring a positive, revolutionary thought in the mindsets of our society.
What he asked was absolutely right and no religious extremist have any answer to that except abuses and taunts i put this guy in 2nd category he asked a valid question there's no Ayat in Quran which tells us about the punishment of blasphemer.

This behavior of my friends was unexpected. All of them were highly educated. But without thinking even for a single moment, they just expressed what was in their hearts. This was both ridiculous and ironic
This is what i was talking about in other thread extremism has penetrated deep into every institution of our country.
 
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@Zibago i agree with this one......however can we as mature people try to keep these stupid discussions of extremeism out of pdf now ? many of us waste time and in return dont get any thing from discussing these issues. :-)
 
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@Zibago i agree with this one......however can we as mature people try to keep these stupid discussions of extremeism out of pdf now ? many of us waste time and in return dont get any thing from discussing these issues. :-)

Difficult without a ban, as liberals keep highlighting these issues and fueling the debate to no end. And if they do not, they won't have much else to talk about! Hell bent on removing blasphemy laws and promoting liberal secularism yet they won't care of times sensitivities. Very enthusiastic lot aren't they who kept shut on blasphemy laws when militants were being promoted in the society by their very own yet can't wait for a few, post militancy, years of calm.
 
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If you see **** and don't get a Erection than you are extremist
If you see **** and did get Erection than you are not ..:partay:


Don't watch **** its bad for your innocent mind:astagh:
 
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Difficult without a ban, as liberals keep highlighting these issues and fueling the debate to no end. And if they do not, they won't have much else to talk about! Hell bent on removing blasphemy laws and promoting liberal secularism yet they won't care of times sensitivities. Very enthusiastic lot aren't they who kept shut on blasphemy laws when militants were being promoted in the society by their very own yet can't wait for a few, post militancy, years of calm.
So wr should stay silent on biggest issue of Pakistan i.e extremism and radicalization?

If you see **** and don't get a Erection than you are extremist
If you see **** and did get Erection than you are not ..:partay:


Don't watch **** its bad for your innocent mind:astagh:
Ok :-(
 
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Wait until things are calmer a bit. Stayed silent when your liberal buddies were busy promoting the militants, what's the rush now?
ironically "Altaf Hocaine" who killed 1000s of people in Karachi was never labeled as Secular terrorist by any intellectual
BLA and BRA also get alot of support from liberals they call them Freedom fighters
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Wait until things are calmer a bit. Stayed silent when your liberal buddies were busy promoting the militants, what's the rush now?
Eh?In laal masjid or are you talking about Taliban?
 
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So wr should stay silent on biggest issue of Pakistan i.e extremism and radicalization?


Ok :-(
my friend this secualrism and liberalism is itself an extremism...the original definition of liberalism is no where found among the so called liberals of this world....i have seen the original definition of liberalism as a core concept of islam which promotes equality and peace and liberty for others to keep following their religion under rule of islam...but these west minded brainwashed idiots have a "keera" in brain to blow air over an issue which is nowhere to be found i.e referring to many people who brag about pak being unjust to m-non muslim minority while there is nothing such

ironically "Altaf Hocaine" who killed 1000s of people in Karachi was never labeled as Secular terrorist by any intellectual
BLA and BRA also get alot of support from liberals they call them Freedom fighters
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ahahaha chaa gaye
 
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my friend this secualrism and liberalism is itself an extremism...the original definition of liberalism is no where found among the so called liberals of this world....i have seen the original definition of liberalism as a core concept of islam which promotes equality and peace and liberty for others to keep following their religion under rule of islam...but these west minded brainwashed idiots have a "keera" in brain to blow air over an issue which is nowhere to be found i.e referring to many people who brag about pak being unjust to m-non muslim minority while there is nothing such


ahahaha chaa gaye
To me liberalism means what Mushara promoted during his enlightened moderation campaign something which is in west called libertarianism but we cant have a libertarian approach in Pakistan be ause we cant tolerate certain things they have to be eliminated e-g intolerant behaviour against certain communities

Lol dont call Islam Liberal in Pakistan Mullahs will issue fatwas they think Liberalism means atheism :F
 
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To me liberalism means what Mushara promoted during his enlightened moderation campaign something which is in west called libertarianism but we cant have a libertarian approach in Pakistan be ause we cant tolerate certain things they have to be eliminated e-g intolerant behaviour against certain communities

Lol dont call Islam Liberal in Pakistan Mullahs will issue fatwas they think Liberalism means atheism :F
look there r sensible and insensible mulla.....many we see r just freaked out ppl who due to lack of patience issue fatwa on others as kafir and all.....they r hot minded....they r not even worthy of being alim/mufti who cant control anger.....calling others kafir baselessly means he himself is kafir....
 
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look there r sensible and insensible mulla.....many we see r just freaked out ppl who due to lack of patience issue fatwa on others as kafir and all.....they r hot minded....they r not even worthy of being alim/mufti who cant control anger.....calling others kafir baselessly means he himself is kafir....
The problem is non sense mullahs resort to violence easily we see banners calling for ban on Ahmdais in Army,govt institution,declaring them traitors in school books i mean that has to be countered

Kuch masjid kay andar kafir kuch masjid kay bahar kafir ,muslim mulk mein aksar kafir ,kafir kafir mein bhi kafir,kafir kafir tu bhi kafir :D
 
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