Hong Kong customs seize shipment of nine armoured military vehicles from Taiwan bound for Singapore

[terranMarine]

Nope terrex is still better.

In that case why isn't Singaporean army taking it back right this instant? Surely your military still possess more high tech gadgets which should be far more superior than Chinese stuff , what's stopping your angry military guys now that we have confiscated some garbage?

 

[sinait]

Singaporean military tech that advanced that China needs to reverse engineer it?
We are simply teaching you guys a lesson, if you want them back why not take them back by force?

Relax, why are you taking the words of a Bangla foreign worker as if he represent Singapore, and Singapore don't need any lesson from you.

 

[haidian]

China's rise cannot be contained: Singapore defence minister
Posted 04 Dec 2016 17:12
SINGAPORE: The US presence in the Asia-Pacific should not be for the sole purpose of containing China, either perceived or otherwise, Singapore Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen said during a panel discussion at the Reagan National Defense Forum on Sunday (Dec 4).

"It is neither possible nor strategically necessary to contain China’s rise ... China is now an integral leader of global systems of trade, finance and security. It is clear that China needs the world as much as the world needs China, and I think this interdependence will grow, not diminish,” he said at the forum in Simi Valley, California, attended by US Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter, foreign defence ministers and members of the US Congress.

He added that the rise of China, India and ASEAN are a "virtuous outcome" of the US foreign and defence policies over the last seven decades. "That very fact alone validates the US foreign and defence policies in Asia over the last few decades. But I think this success brings a suite of new challenges as we contemplate US foreign policy moving forward," Dr Ng said.

Asked about potential collaboration between the incoming Donald Trump administration and Taiwan, in the wake of a phone call between the US president-elect and Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen, Dr Ng said it was not Singapore's place to second-guess on the reason for the call.

"The president-elect’s administration team followed up after the phone call to say that they adhere to the one-China policy, as does Singapore and we are very careful and in fact, constructive," Dr Ng said, pointing to instances where Singapore helped advance the one-China policy, such as hosting the Wang-Koo talks in 1993, the 1992 One Consensus meeting and the meeting between Chinese President Xi Jinping and then Taiwanese leader Ma Ying-jeou.

Said the defence minister: "I think there are a lot of benefits of a strong China; being able to provide opportunities for both US and other countries in the world, and I think that there are many areas that you can focus on that are productive."

Dr Ng said that he does not believe, even with any new administration, that the US would reduce its presence in the Asia-Pacific region.

"The US’ presence in the Asia-Pacific region based predominantly on security is unidimensional and structurally brittle… The US needs a multifaceted relationship with countries in Asia," he said. "Singapore looks forward to working with the new administration to continue to allow the US to be a stabilising force in the Asia-Pacific region.”

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...ained-singapore-defence-minister/3340990.html

 

[Beast]

China's rise cannot be contained: Singapore defence minister
Posted 04 Dec 2016 17:12
SINGAPORE: The US presence in the Asia-Pacific should not be for the sole purpose of containing China, either perceived or otherwise, Singapore Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen said during a panel discussion at the Reagan National Defense Forum on Sunday (Dec 4).

"It is neither possible nor strategically necessary to contain China’s rise ... China is now an integral leader of global systems of trade, finance and security. It is clear that China needs the world as much as the world needs China, and I think this interdependence will grow, not diminish,” he said at the forum in Simi Valley, California, attended by US Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter, foreign defence ministers and members of the US Congress.

He added that the rise of China, India and ASEAN are a "virtuous outcome" of the US foreign and defence policies over the last seven decades. "That very fact alone validates the US foreign and defence policies in Asia over the last few decades. But I think this success brings a suite of new challenges as we contemplate US foreign policy moving forward," Dr Ng said.

Asked about potential collaboration between the incoming Donald Trump administration and Taiwan, in the wake of a phone call between the US president-elect and Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen, Dr Ng said it was not Singapore's place to second-guess on the reason for the call.

"The president-elect’s administration team followed up after the phone call to say that they adhere to the one-China policy, as does Singapore and we are very careful and in fact, constructive," Dr Ng said, pointing to instances where Singapore helped advance the one-China policy, such as hosting the Wang-Koo talks in 1993, the 1992 One Consensus meeting and the meeting between Chinese President Xi Jinping and then Taiwanese leader Ma Ying-jeou.

Said the defence minister: "I think there are a lot of benefits of a strong China; being able to provide opportunities for both US and other countries in the world, and I think that there are many areas that you can focus on that are productive."

Dr Ng said that he does not believe, even with any new administration, that the US would reduce its presence in the Asia-Pacific region.

"The US’ presence in the Asia-Pacific region based predominantly on security is unidimensional and structurally brittle… The US needs a multifaceted relationship with countries in Asia," he said. "Singapore looks forward to working with the new administration to continue to allow the US to be a stabilising force in the Asia-Pacific region.”

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...ained-singapore-defence-minister/3340990.html

Damage control by Singapore after they host USN LSS Freedom in changi naval base.

Next thing I hope they do is to stop letting USN to use changi naval base as a staging ground for the groundless operation freedom of navigation in SCS.

 

[royalharris]

Singapore is very "smart' to change their tones fluently

 

[nang2]

Just arrogant. Plain arrogant. Why would anyone think he has the right to "contain" another country, let alone the capability?!

 

[925boy]

This is the same Singapore that was receiving APCs from Taiwan,that China seized.hmmm.

 

[Pangu]

They shld also open Changi naval base to China naval vessels, then we call it even.

 

[MULUBJA]

China's good days are over and shall be marginalized like europe. It will have some money but looses its importance and edge in manufacturing because of emergence of other powers.

 

[TaiShang]

China's good days are over and shall be marginalized like europe. It will have some money but looses its importance and edge in manufacturing because of emergence of other powers.

I think it is quite difficult to marginalize China. How can you do that when China is your largest trade partner? The AIIB experience has in fact shown how China has become a more relevant country than, perhaps, the US in terms of ensuring development and connectivity across Eurasia and beyond.

And what makes you believe that "old days" were actually the "good days?"

We learn in class that old days were in fact very bitter days.

 

[MULUBJA]

I think it is quite difficult to marginalize China. How can you do that when China is your largest trade partner? The AIIB experience has in fact shown how China has become a more relevant country than, perhaps, the US in terms of ensuring development and connectivity across Eurasia and beyond.

And what makes you believe that "old days" were actually the "good days?"

We learn in class that old days were in fact very bitter days.

Old dys were good days because china developed at a very high rate it has come down significantly. Foreign exchage reserve is down and many predictes china's dwnfall.

 

[TaiShang]

Old dys were good days because china developed at a very high rate it has come down significantly. Foreign exchage reserve is down and many predictes china's dwnfall.

There was high growth, for sure. But it was quite painful with lots of negative externalities. People suffered and sacrificed to make it happen. For once, the growth was high but the benchmark basis was quite low. The 1990s 10% generated less GDP than 6.5% does today.

Besides, the infrastructure was quite incomplete. There was no HSR. No super mega hyper cities/clusters that China does have now.

China did not have national and international champions. It did not have billion dollar Tencent or Baidu. It did not have DJI. It did not have world's largest IT and CT company, Huawei, at that time.

China did not have many things.

Foreign exchange reserve is down is good news because, in line with the decrease in foreign reserves, sovereign wealth funds (which is the largest in the world) are increasing in number and return.

China is exceptional. Many predicted its fall many times over the last two decades. In fact, based on the Indian experience, China was not supposed to be where it is today.

China was supposed to be India 2.0.

Obviously, history worked for you and China quite differently.

 

[cirr]

Old dys were good days because china developed at a very high rate it has come down significantly. Foreign exchage reserve is down and many predictes china's dwnfall.

You have been totally and utterly brainwashed by Western propaganda.

Chances of containing a China that is capable of the following are extremely remote.

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[Shinigami]

China is exceptional. Many predicted its fall many times over the last two decades. In fact, based on the Indian experience, China was not supposed to be where it is today.

China was supposed to be India 2.0.

Obviously, history worked for you and China quite differently.

in what way is china comparable to the "indian experiance"? the 2 countries could not be any more different
china is a country of 98% single race and ethnicity, wheras india is multiracial, multiethnic and is a stronghold for every relegion there is
china has a strong central government that implement its policies immediately, india has a weak and diluted federal power structure where decisions take time
china can build roads over properties of millions with impunity and it effects the lives of billions for the better, india cannot do that
i could go on

 

[TaiShang]

in what way is china comparable to the "indian experiance"? the 2 countries could not be any more different
china is a country of 98% single race and ethnicity, wheras india is multiracial, multiethnic and is a stronghold for every relegion there is
china has a strong central government that implement its policies immediately, india has a weak and diluted federal power structure where decisions take time
china can build roads over properties of millions with impunity and it effects the lives of billions for the better, india cannot do that
i could go on

Historically, India was better situated (had a better infra and higher GDP when compared to China when the two countries were established) as it had better development fundamentals.

The rest that you list above are the results of poor governance, management, planning, strategizing... not the effect.

Your government was supposed to correct those negativities. You missed the creative destruction and construction period. You missed the coarse and explosive development period. Now you want to leapfrog to development without setting up the fundamentals.

China's development was not a walk in the park; in fact, it had to be involved in major power competition very early on, including a head to head confrontation with the US in Korea and a proxy war in Vietnam.