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Hong Kong customs seize shipment of nine armoured military vehicles from Taiwan bound for Singapore
Sources say it may be one of the biggest seizures of strategic commodities in two decades; details about owner, sender and consignee still being investigated
Nine armoured military vehicles, along with components and accessories, have been confiscated by Hong Kong customs in a routine inspection at the Kwai Chung terminal, marking one of the biggest seizure of strategic commodities in two decades.

Preliminary investigation showed the consignment was being shipped from Taiwan to Singapore, the Post has learned.

“Hong Kong was not its final destination. It is not known why the consignment was unloaded here,” a government source with knowledge of the matter said.
The source said it was possible the containers carrying the military carriers were unloaded by mistake at the terminal with other general goods.

http://m.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/la...customs-seize-shipment-nine-armoured-military
 
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Hong Kong customs seize shipment of nine armoured military vehicles from Taiwan bound for Singapore
Sources say it may be one of the biggest seizures of strategic commodities in two decades; details about owner, sender and consignee still being investigated
Nine armoured military vehicles, along with components and accessories, have been confiscated by Hong Kong customs in a routine inspection at the Kwai Chung terminal, marking one of the biggest seizure of strategic commodities in two decades.

Preliminary investigation showed the consignment was being shipped from Taiwan to Singapore, the Post has learned.

“Hong Kong was not its final destination. It is not known why the consignment was unloaded here,” a government source with knowledge of the matter said.
The source said it was possible the containers carrying the military carriers were unloaded by mistake at the terminal with other general goods.

http://m.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/la...customs-seize-shipment-nine-armoured-military


Interesting news, here is news from Channel News Asia, it says these are Terrex ICVs used by the SAF in routine overseas training and shipped back via commercial means via HK. SAF does conducts regular training in Taiwan, perhaps some mistake in logistical arrangement, these ICVs end up in hands of HK customs.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...r-singapore-delayed-at-hong-kong/3314824.html
9 armoured vehicles bound for Singapore 'delayed' at Hong Kong customs
Posted 24 Nov 2016 16:48 Updated 24 Nov 2016 19:25

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I wonder who will have to pay for this fiasco?
Or will the insurance cover it?
As HK has seized them, do they have any use for them?
 
Singapore’s hypocrisy exposed by seized military vehicles
By Ai Jun (Global Times) 10:08, November 28, 2016

A Singapore-bound cargo ship from Taiwan with armored military vehicles on board was inspected and detained by Hong Kong customs on Thursday last week. The Chinese foreign ministry responded Friday that the "Chinese government is firmly opposed to any forms of official interaction between Taiwan and countries that have diplomatic relations with us, military exchanges and cooperation included." The case is still being verified, but those military vehicles have raised new questions over Singapore's policy toward China.

Given that Singapore is a small country with limited space for military exercises, the nation has to train its troops overseas to maintain a strong defense force. According to the Taipei Times, former Taiwan leader Chiang Kai-shek and then-Singaporean prime minister Lee Kwan Yew ratified a secret agreement called Project Starlight in 1975, under which Singapore can send troops to Taiwan annually for training.

It is to some extent understandable that Singapore did this before it established diplomatic relations with China. But after 1990, the year that formal diplomatic ties were established, it is no longer reasonable for Singapore to continue Project Starlight or any kind of military exchanges with Taiwan.

In 2012, Singapore claimed it would suspend bilateral military cooperation with the island. However the recently detained vessel with its cargo of armored vehicles reveals Singapore's hypocrisy.

For quite some time, Singapore has been pretending to seek a balance between China and the US, yet has been taking Washington's side in reality. Singapore was never a military ally of the US, but has given the green light to US military forces' long-term presence at its Changi Naval Base as well as allowing US Navy Boeing P-8A Poseidon aircraft to operate out of its airbases. This has turned Singapore into a platform for Washington to contain and deter Beijing. Singapore claimed it was not picking sides in the South China Sea disputes, but its remarks about the issue are far from neutral; instead, it has actually complicated and expanded the scale of the case.

It should be expected that a small country like Singapore has its own tactics of survival in games of major powers. The country, which used to know its boundaries, is losing its balance now. Its measures to contain China are becoming obvious. The military equipment seized by Hong Kong authorities this time further adds to the suspicion that Singapore might be working against the "one China" principle.

It should be understood that if public opinion about Singapore changes in China, it will turn into a huge blow to bilateral ties, result in a possible adjustment to Beijing's foreign policies and profoundly impact Singapore's economy.
 
As HK has seized them, do they have any use for them?

We don't have any use for them.

According to the One Country Two Systems policy, we have autonomy in everything except for defence and foreign relations. And this is defence equipment, so Beijing will have to decide what to do with it.

HK Police force is already well equipped, I don't think these will have much purpose there.
 
China urges Singapore to strictly adhere to one-China policy
(Xinhua) 21:03, November 28, 2016

BEIJING, Nov. 28 (Xinhua) -- China Monday urged Singapore to strictly adhere to the one-China policy after nine Singaporean armored vehicles, reportedly used in military drills in Taiwan, were seized by Hong Kong customs last week.

"The Chinese side has lodged representations with the Singaporean side," Foreign Ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang said at a daily news briefing, adding that China has demanded that Singapore abide by the laws of Hong Kong and cooperate with the government of Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (HKSAR) in handling the matter.

Geng said the Chinese government strongly opposes any official interactions between Taiwan region and any country that has established diplomatic relations with China, including military exchanges and cooperation.

"We demand that the Singaporean government adhere to the one-China policy strictly and sincerely," said the spokesman.
 
Singapore’s refusal to halt military ties with Taiwan ‘prompted Beijing response to seizure of military vehicles’

Military observer says China repeatedly offered to host Singapore exercises on Hainan, to no avail

Choi Chi-yuk | SCMP
PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 29 November, 2016, 3:55pm
UPDATED : Tuesday, 29 November, 2016, 11:03pm

Beijing’s response to the seizure of Singapore’s military vehicles in Hong Kong may stem from its frustration over failed attempts to have the city state sever its military ties with Taiwan, an analyst has said.

Beijing had previously offered the southern island of Hainan to Singapore as an alternative location to conduct its military training exercises, but Singapore repeatedly turned down the offer under pressure from the United States, according to Macau-based military expert Antony Wong Dong.

Regarding the nine Singapore-bound armoured military vehicles impounded in Hong Kong last week, Wong Dong said Beijing had years ago tried to convince Singapore to replace its “Starlight Project” military training bases in Taiwan with alternatives on Hainan Island, but to no avail.

“The mainland side promised to provide the Singaporean military with a closer and larger place in Hainan [than that used in Taiwan] for military exercises, but Singapore rejected the offer,” Wong said.

Singapore rejected the offer because of strong opposition from the Pentagon, which was concerned that Washington’s military secrets could be leaked as Singapore uses American weapon systems, he said.

The Starlight Project dates back to early 1974, when the late Singaporean Premier Lee Kuan Yew signed a secret deal with his Taiwanese counterpart Chiang Ching-kuo during a visit to Taiwan.

Based on that confidential agreement, Singapore has sent nearly 20,000 troops to Taiwan for training on a yearly basis. Joint military exercises went on even after Singapore shifted its formal diplomatic relations from Taiwan to mainland China in 1990.

Singapore is the only country that sends its troops to Taiwan for training.

The military training programme came to light for the first time in early 2007, when two Singaporean soldiers died and nine others were injured as a result of a fighter jet accident during the annual Han Kuang exercises in Taiwan.

Speculations were rife then that Beijing had asked visiting top Singaporean military leaders to stop the training programme in Taiwan, while offering Hainan as an alternative location.

Five years later, relations between Taiwan and Singapore plunged to another low point when Taipei’s de facto envoy to the city state was sacked and a secret visit by Taiwan’s Defence Minister to Singapore came to light.

Singapore reportedly considered once again whether to shift its military training from Taiwan to Hainan when Beijing renewed their offer. Once again, the talks between Beijing and Singapore were fruitless.

Singapore, however, has gradually reduced the number of Starlight personnel sent to Taiwan for training in recent years to as few as 3,000, but there are still at least three military bases in Taiwan for use by the project.

Wong said that although there were occasionally joint military drills between the People’s Liberation Army and its Singaporean counterparts, the level was much lower than that of the Starlight Project.

Oh Ei-sun, a senior fellow with the S Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore, said Beijing was becoming less tolerant of Taiwan’s ties and cooperation with other countries now the self-ruled island was under the administration of Tsai Ing-wen and her independence-leaning Democratic Progressive Party.

“Taiwan’s space for international manoeuvreing has been increasingly constrained under the DPP administration, which maintains an ambiguous position on the 1992 consensus,” Oh said.

The 1992 consensus is an understanding between Beijing and Taiwan that there is only one China, but each side could have its own interpretation of what constitutes “China”.

Lee Chih-hong, a research fellow at the Longus Institute for Development and Strategy in Singapore, said present circumstances showed the row between Beijing and Singapore was inevitably escalating as both sides stuck to their own points of view.

“Singapore’s Foreign Minister Vivian Balakrishnan insists that Beijing has known of Project Starlight for a long time and that Singapore has always stuck to the one-China policy,” Lee said.

“What Balakrishnan said is aimed at refuting Chinese media and the Chinese foreign ministry’s accusations about Singapore’s failure to abide by the one-China principle.”


Additional reporting by Catherine Wong and Minnie Chan

This article appeared in the South China Morning Post print edition as:
Beijing frustrated by Singapore snub to train in Hainan


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Beijing is turning on the screws .... and why not.
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We don't have any use for them.

According to the One Country Two Systems policy, we have autonomy in everything except for defence and foreign relations. And this is defence equipment, so Beijing will have to decide what to do with it.

HK Police force is already well equipped, I don't think these will have much purpose there.

Back in early Mao times this would have been a good catch and put to use.

These days the seized vehicles will probably just be melted down as suggested by Global times.
 
Singapore’s refusal to halt military ties with Taiwan ‘prompted Beijing response to seizure of military vehicles’

Military observer says China repeatedly offered to host Singapore exercises on Hainan, to no avail

Choi Chi-yuk | SCMP
PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 29 November, 2016, 3:55pm
UPDATED : Tuesday, 29 November, 2016, 11:03pm

Beijing’s response to the seizure of Singapore’s military vehicles in Hong Kong may stem from its frustration over failed attempts to have the city state sever its military ties with Taiwan, an analyst has said.

Beijing had previously offered the southern island of Hainan to Singapore as an alternative location to conduct its military training exercises, but Singapore repeatedly turned down the offer under pressure from the United States, according to Macau-based military expert Antony Wong Dong.

Regarding the nine Singapore-bound armoured military vehicles impounded in Hong Kong last week, Wong Dong said Beijing had years ago tried to convince Singapore to replace its “Starlight Project” military training bases in Taiwan with alternatives on Hainan Island, but to no avail.

“The mainland side promised to provide the Singaporean military with a closer and larger place in Hainan [than that used in Taiwan] for military exercises, but Singapore rejected the offer,” Wong said.

Singapore rejected the offer because of strong opposition from the Pentagon, which was concerned that Washington’s military secrets could be leaked as Singapore uses American weapon systems, he said.

The Starlight Project dates back to early 1974, when the late Singaporean Premier Lee Kuan Yew signed a secret deal with his Taiwanese counterpart Chiang Ching-kuo during a visit to Taiwan.

Based on that confidential agreement, Singapore has sent nearly 20,000 troops to Taiwan for training on a yearly basis. Joint military exercises went on even after Singapore shifted its formal diplomatic relations from Taiwan to mainland China in 1990.

Singapore is the only country that sends its troops to Taiwan for training.

The military training programme came to light for the first time in early 2007, when two Singaporean soldiers died and nine others were injured as a result of a fighter jet accident during the annual Han Kuang exercises in Taiwan.

Speculations were rife then that Beijing had asked visiting top Singaporean military leaders to stop the training programme in Taiwan, while offering Hainan as an alternative location.

Five years later, relations between Taiwan and Singapore plunged to another low point when Taipei’s de facto envoy to the city state was sacked and a secret visit by Taiwan’s Defence Minister to Singapore came to light.

Singapore reportedly considered once again whether to shift its military training from Taiwan to Hainan when Beijing renewed their offer. Once again, the talks between Beijing and Singapore were fruitless.

Singapore, however, has gradually reduced the number of Starlight personnel sent to Taiwan for training in recent years to as few as 3,000, but there are still at least three military bases in Taiwan for use by the project.

Wong said that although there were occasionally joint military drills between the People’s Liberation Army and its Singaporean counterparts, the level was much lower than that of the Starlight Project.

Oh Ei-sun, a senior fellow with the S Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore, said Beijing was becoming less tolerant of Taiwan’s ties and cooperation with other countries now the self-ruled island was under the administration of Tsai Ing-wen and her independence-leaning Democratic Progressive Party.

“Taiwan’s space for international manoeuvreing has been increasingly constrained under the DPP administration, which maintains an ambiguous position on the 1992 consensus,” Oh said.

The 1992 consensus is an understanding between Beijing and Taiwan that there is only one China, but each side could have its own interpretation of what constitutes “China”.

Lee Chih-hong, a research fellow at the Longus Institute for Development and Strategy in Singapore, said present circumstances showed the row between Beijing and Singapore was inevitably escalating as both sides stuck to their own points of view.

“Singapore’s Foreign Minister Vivian Balakrishnan insists that Beijing has known of Project Starlight for a long time and that Singapore has always stuck to the one-China policy,” Lee said.

“What Balakrishnan said is aimed at refuting Chinese media and the Chinese foreign ministry’s accusations about Singapore’s failure to abide by the one-China principle.”


Additional reporting by Catherine Wong and Minnie Chan

This article appeared in the South China Morning Post print edition as:
Beijing frustrated by Singapore snub to train in Hainan


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Beijing is turning on the screws .... and why not.
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This is good quality reporting. Under new boss, SCMP is getting a better analytical paper, as it seems.

On topic, the tightening up of Taiwan's space by the Mainland is being vividly felt. Green's leader got beaten today by angry people when he was leaving the 立法院。
 
Sg netizens got heated debate on this issue. Many curse the government for this embarrassing incident, most feel that their PM should have kept quite about the SCS issue, there's even an opposition party member call on the government to apologize to China. I feel there is a division between the leadership & the people in the relationship with China.... I think their leadership has gone downhill after the death of Lee Kuan Yew, lack of tactful statesmanship & strategic foresight.
 
Sg netizens got heated debate on this issue. Many curse the government for this embarrassing incident, most feel that their PM should have kept quite about the SCS issue, there's even an opposition party member call on the government to apologize to China. I feel there is a division between the leadership & the people in the relationship with China.... I think their leadership has gone downhill after the death of Lee Kuan Yew, lack of tactful statesmanship & strategic foresight.

Like the Philippines, we can just wait until the next Singapore administration comes into power.

The problem I think is that the Western narrative has won over a lot of ethnic Chinsese outside of the Mainland.

Even back in 1997 when I was still a kid, I remember when some of my older family members were worried about "Chinese tanks rolling down the street" after the 1997 Hong Kong handover.

Of course that all turned out to be bullsh*t, now that we have the benefit of hindsight. But it's tempting to believe in it at the time.

The important thing is to think logically, and act pragmatically. Like it was said in the Book of Han over 2000 years ago, "seek truth from facts".

And the reality is that the entire world now recognizes the PRC as the legitimate representative of China. Backing the ROC over the PRC is a losing proposition in every scenario, whether economic, military, diplomatic, etc.
 

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