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like i said infidels always carried out forced conversion... obviously a religion such hendoosim needs force conversion

why else would any one in their right mind accept such a religion.
 
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After Mob Attacks and Trade Boycott, Muslims Being Forced to Convert to Hinduism in Delhi and Haryana Villages
14 May 2020 05:05 PM, IST


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Body of an 80-year-old Muslim woman being taken for cremation by her family who converted to Hinduism in Hissar district of Haryana





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Syed Ali Ahmed | India Tomorrow



NEW DELHI, May 14—After a hate campaign launched by print, electronic and digital media against Muslims in the wake of the coronavirus spread that resulted in mob attacks on Muslims and their trade boycott, Muslims are now being forced to convert to Hinduism in several villages of Haryana as also in villages in Bawana area of Delhi, bordering Haryana’s Sonepat district.


The latest example of the forced conversion has come from Harevali village in Bawana area where all the 12 Muslim families with about 60 members, were forcibly converted to Hinduism on May 6. This is the same village where a Muslim youth Dilshad, who is also known as Mahboob, was beaten mercilessly by youths from all the Hindu communities, April 5 after he had returned from the Tablighi Jamaat mission in Bhopal. The accused, who prepared a video of the assault and circulated it on social media, are now forcing Dilshad to withdraw the police case. A case against the accused have been filed by Dilshad through his advocated Anwar Siddiqui. Siddiqui says that after severely beating Dilshad, the villagers are now trying to convert them to Hinduism. "This is very serious as it is violation of fundamental rights of citizens", says Siddiqui.


A resident of the village on conditions of anonymity told India Tomorrow that five elders of the Muslim families were forcibly taken to the village temple where they were subjected to “shuddhikaran” ( purification) or conversion by making them drink water with drops of “gau mutra”(cow urine) in presence of entire village.


“After these rituals in the temple, Muslim elders were told that they and their family members were Hindus from now onwards and would not practice Islam like performing ‘namaz’ or Salat, observing fast or burying their dead. We were told that we will now cremate or burn the bodies the way the Hindus do in the village”, said a villager.


The villager alleged that the Hindus had asked the village Muslim graveyard into a “gaushala” (cow shed). The Muslims used to bury their dead in the graveyard which is one ‘kila’or five bighas in area, a big property worth several crores of rupees.


The villager said that they did not oppose the “shuddhikaran” because of fear of atrocities from the Hindu villagers. “Though we went through the rituals in the temple, we in our hearts remained committed that we will continue and die as Muslims”, said the villager.


Asked if the Muslims were observing the Ramzan, he said, “We are observing fast and performing ‘namaz’ also inside our houses secretly, without our Hindu neighbours coming to know of it”. He said that the Muslims would take up the issue with the police after the Ramzan and lockdown were over.


Harevali has no mosque. The nearest mosque is at Bawana, six kilometres away from the village. “We used to go to Bawana for performing Friday congregational prayers. But with lockdown in force and congregational prayers not allowed to maintain social distancing, we don’t go to Bawana mosque now”, said the village.


He said, “We have been living in the village since generations. But this has had never happened in the memorable history. During partition days in 1947, a few Muslims had changed their names to Hindu-sounding names for fear. But nobody had asked our elders for conversion. The atmosphere of hate has been created by media giving publicity to fabricated anti-Muslim news stories. The feeling of hate in Hindus against Muslim community has deepened following negative coverage to Markaz Tablighi Jamat and holding it responsible for spread of coronavirus.”


Asked if the Muslims of the village would decide to leave the village if the Hindus bring further pressure and don’t allow them to pray in their houses, another villager said, “We have our agriculture and other landed properties in the village which is coming in the way of migration. We are discussing it among ourselves and some advocates what to do under the circumstances. Migration is the last option. We will use it when all other options fail”.


According to another Harevali villager, Hindus in Nagal village, about three kilometres from Harevali, were forcing half a dozen Muslim families to convert to Hinduism. “Though the Muslim are resisting, the Hindu youths are building pressure on them and threatening that they would not be allowed to live in the village if they don’t convert”. The villagers said that his relatives in Jinjoli village, about six kilometres from Harevali, in Sonepat district in Haryana told him that the local Hindus were also asking them to convert and threatening them of serious consequences in the event of not complying with the diktat.


Incidents of conversion have been reported from several other villages in Haryana. According to reports, 260 members of 40 Muslims families in Bidhmira village of Hissar converted to Hinduism on May 8. Reports say that the Muslim-convert-Hindus performed the last rites of an 80-year-old Muslim woman as per Hindu religious customs. Earlier, 35 members of six families living in Dhanoda Kalan village in Jind district converted to Hinduism after the death of one of their elders.

Thank God for Pakistan!
 
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India is on the verge of a civil war.... the consequences will be unimaginable for the world.... it’s not if India will
Implode ... it’s when and how....world needs to be prepared for the civil war .



Nice dreams..the point is muslims are in isolated pockets...they are too few to wage a civil war...kashmir with full muslim.population hindustan ki kuch nai ukhad sakha...what can these muslims do?anyway muslims enjoy more freedom in india than pakistan...why should they wage a war in india?you dreams will remain only as dreams
 
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Nice dreams..the point is muslims are in isolated pockets...they are too few to wage a civil war...kashmir with full muslim.population hindustan ki kuch nai ukhad sakha...what can these muslims do?anyway muslims enjoy more freedom in india than pakistan...why should they wage a war in india?you dreams will remain only as dreams


Well to RSS bakht glass of cow piss looks like a delicious coffee.....

what can I say about your state of mind.
 
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After Mob Attacks and Trade Boycott, Muslims Being Forced to Convert to Hinduism in Delhi and Haryana Villages
14 May 2020 05:05 PM, IST


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Body of an 80-year-old Muslim woman being taken for cremation by her family who converted to Hinduism in Hissar district of Haryana


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Syed Ali Ahmed | India Tomorrow



NEW DELHI, May 14—After a hate campaign launched by print, electronic and digital media against Muslims in the wake of the coronavirus spread that resulted in mob attacks on Muslims and their trade boycott, Muslims are now being forced to convert to Hinduism in several villages of Haryana as also in villages in Bawana area of Delhi, bordering Haryana’s Sonepat district.


The latest example of the forced conversion has come from Harevali village in Bawana area where all the 12 Muslim families with about 60 members, were forcibly converted to Hinduism on May 6. This is the same village where a Muslim youth Dilshad, who is also known as Mahboob, was beaten mercilessly by youths from all the Hindu communities, April 5 after he had returned from the Tablighi Jamaat mission in Bhopal. The accused, who prepared a video of the assault and circulated it on social media, are now forcing Dilshad to withdraw the police case. A case against the accused have been filed by Dilshad through his advocated Anwar Siddiqui. Siddiqui says that after severely beating Dilshad, the villagers are now trying to convert them to Hinduism. "This is very serious as it is violation of fundamental rights of citizens", says Siddiqui.


A resident of the village on conditions of anonymity told India Tomorrow that five elders of the Muslim families were forcibly taken to the village temple where they were subjected to “shuddhikaran” ( purification) or conversion by making them drink water with drops of “gau mutra”(cow urine) in presence of entire village.


“After these rituals in the temple, Muslim elders were told that they and their family members were Hindus from now onwards and would not practice Islam like performing ‘namaz’ or Salat, observing fast or burying their dead. We were told that we will now cremate or burn the bodies the way the Hindus do in the village”, said a villager.


The villager alleged that the Hindus had asked the village Muslim graveyard into a “gaushala” (cow shed). The Muslims used to bury their dead in the graveyard which is one ‘kila’or five bighas in area, a big property worth several crores of rupees.


The villager said that they did not oppose the “shuddhikaran” because of fear of atrocities from the Hindu villagers. “Though we went through the rituals in the temple, we in our hearts remained committed that we will continue and die as Muslims”, said the villager.


Asked if the Muslims were observing the Ramzan, he said, “We are observing fast and performing ‘namaz’ also inside our houses secretly, without our Hindu neighbours coming to know of it”. He said that the Muslims would take up the issue with the police after the Ramzan and lockdown were over.


Harevali has no mosque. The nearest mosque is at Bawana, six kilometres away from the village. “We used to go to Bawana for performing Friday congregational prayers. But with lockdown in force and congregational prayers not allowed to maintain social distancing, we don’t go to Bawana mosque now”, said the village.


He said, “We have been living in the village since generations. But this has had never happened in the memorable history. During partition days in 1947, a few Muslims had changed their names to Hindu-sounding names for fear. But nobody had asked our elders for conversion. The atmosphere of hate has been created by media giving publicity to fabricated anti-Muslim news stories. The feeling of hate in Hindus against Muslim community has deepened following negative coverage to Markaz Tablighi Jamat and holding it responsible for spread of coronavirus.”


Asked if the Muslims of the village would decide to leave the village if the Hindus bring further pressure and don’t allow them to pray in their houses, another villager said, “We have our agriculture and other landed properties in the village which is coming in the way of migration. We are discussing it among ourselves and some advocates what to do under the circumstances. Migration is the last option. We will use it when all other options fail”.


According to another Harevali villager, Hindus in Nagal village, about three kilometres from Harevali, were forcing half a dozen Muslim families to convert to Hinduism. “Though the Muslim are resisting, the Hindu youths are building pressure on them and threatening that they would not be allowed to live in the village if they don’t convert”. The villagers said that his relatives in Jinjoli village, about six kilometres from Harevali, in Sonepat district in Haryana told him that the local Hindus were also asking them to convert and threatening them of serious consequences in the event of not complying with the diktat.


Incidents of conversion have been reported from several other villages in Haryana. According to reports, 260 members of 40 Muslims families in Bidhmira village of Hissar converted to Hinduism on May 8. Reports say that the Muslim-convert-Hindus performed the last rites of an 80-year-old Muslim woman as per Hindu religious customs. Earlier, 35 members of six families living in Dhanoda Kalan village in Jind district converted to Hinduism after the death of one of their elders.

Thank God for Pakistan!
The post can be a bit misleading as there are many muslim groups like mewati muslims who converted from Rajputs they kept the muslim names but much of their practises related to hinduism as well as there are many tribes in India who are listed as muslims for example the Bhils who retain many of their practices of their hindu counterparts . These groups are much more in target for conversion and due to economic impetus and a bit threat these groups are converting.
 
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Sometimes it's hard to sympathize with Indian Muslims when they blurt out stuff like ' First we are Indian then we are Muslim'. I have personally known hundreds like this.

If they didn't choose to live in Pakistan during 1947, can we really assume they are willing to put up a fight this time?

Maybe they will prove me wrong, this is merely what I've gathered from the Indian Muslims I know.
 
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Sometimes it's hard to sympathize with Indian Muslims when they blurt out stuff like ' First we are Indian then we are Muslim'. I have personally known hundreds like this.

If they didn't choose to live in Pakistan during 1947, can we really assume they are willing to put up a fight this time?

Maybe they will prove me wrong, this is merely what I've gathered from the Indian Muslims I know.
How is their view now a days? Are they NRI or living in India?
 
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How is their view now a days? Are they NRI or living in India?

The ones I'm speaking of are all NRIs (Non Resident Indians).

Not much has changed in terms of their opinions. NRIs are a different breed because whose in power in Delhi doesn't really effect their lives directly, most of these people are born abroad and will mostly stay abroad for most of their lives so take their opinions with a pinch of salt.

A few claim that BJP is all bark and nothing really mateilizes on the ground (I.e. no real oppression). Just hot air to get Sanghi votes.

Others say that as long as their states are free from BJP influence they don't care what's going down in Delhi.

Some others are indifferent and some claim that modi is merely clearing India of 'outsiders'.

Take into account that NRIs are rich, and from what I know Rich people do not face any problem ever no matter what caste, creed or religion you maybe. RSS can't/won't lynch you if you are rich.
 
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kashmir with full muslim.population hindustan ki kuch nai ukhad sakha...what can these muslims do?
This is what I am worried about- Just a shift from what can they do to what can India do for them (Off course Indian part of Kashmir will never leave the union) would make so much more sense. There has to be a middle ground or some ways to reign in the separatist thinking into a more integration mindset. The BJP/RSS way of thinking-"Might is right" is not helping.
 
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Nice dreams..the point is muslims are in isolated pockets...they are too few to wage a civil war...kashmir with full muslim.population hindustan ki kuch nai ukhad sakha...what can these muslims do?anyway muslims enjoy more freedom in india than pakistan...why should they wage a war in india?you dreams will remain only as dreams

Not a dream, reality more likely. You already have the ocean coming your way and now imagine a full attack from Pakistan with Allah's help on its side.

Soon sanghi, soon. You will see what a Muslim Warrior is when he can fight back. :sniper:

"Two hundred yards further the full force of the fire, artillery, Maxims and rifles, had burst on them. In places desperate rushes to get on at all costs, had been made by devoted, fearless men. In such places the bodies lay so thickly as to hide the ground. Occasionally there were double layers of this hideous covering. Once I saw them lying three deep. In a space not exceeding a hundred yards square more than four hundred corpses lay festering. Can you imagine the postures in which man, once created in the image of his Maker, had been twisted? Do not try, for were you to succeed you would ask yourself, with me: ‘Can I ever forget.’

I have tried to gild war, and to solace myself for the loss of dear and gallant friends, with the thought that a soldier’s death for a cause that he believes in will count for much, whatever may be beyond this world. When the soldier of a civilised power is killed in action his limbs are composed and his body is borne by friendly arms reverently to the grave. The wail of the fifes, the roll of the drums, the triumphant words of the Funeral Service, all divest the act of its squalor, and the spectator sympathises with, perhaps almost envies, the comrade who has found this honourable exit. But there was nothing dulce et decorum about the Dervish dead. Nothing of the dignity of unconquerable manhood. All was filthy corruption. Yet these were as brave men as ever walked the earth. The conviction was borne in on me that their claim beyond the grave in respect of a valiant death was not less good than that which any of our countrymen could make."

Soon, tick tock, tick tock. :sniper::flame::flame::big_boss::pakistan::pakistan:
 
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This is what I am worried about- Just a shift from what can they do to what can India do for them (Off course Indian part of Kashmir will never leave the union) would make so much more sense. There has to be a middle ground or some ways to reign in the separatist thinking into a more integration mindset. The BJP/RSS way of thinking-"Might is right" is not helping.

A secular India that treats it neighbors as partners in the region is what we all need. A united secular India is the most realistic thing to hope for. We have already seen the chaos of wars and partition in the subcontinent.
 
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First we are Indian then we are Muslim'. I have personally known hundreds like this.
Are you saying that you are Muslim first then a Bangladeshi- I believe that You have to be Citizen of a country feirst before religion- BJP/RSS does not define India/Bharat-Its just one of the anomalies and will pass soon.

A secular India that treats it neighbors as partners in the region is what we all need. A united secular India is the most realistic thing to hope for. We have already seen the chaos of wars and partition in the subcontinent.
Yes- Totally agree with you here- There will not be/should not be anymore partitions to India or Pakistan or for that matter any country- Make the existing borders the international borders and move on and give progress a chance- The onus is on both India and Pakistan, if they both truly believe in peace stability and progress of the region. I would blame both India and Pakistan for the stalemate if this is not resolved as is.
 
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Are you saying that you are Muslim first then a Bangladeshi- I believe that You have to be Citizen of a country feirst before religion- BJP/RSS does not define India/Bharat-Its just one of the anomalies and will pass soon.

I meant given the current plight of Muslims under the RSS goons, I'd have expected them to be critical of their government.

For me, my religious beliefs have nothing to do with my loyalty to my country as long as I can freely practice my faith. Whether the said country is Christian, Muslim or Hindu doesn't matter to me but hey this just me others may disagree.
 
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