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High-Stakes in Indian MMRCA, Eurofighter Makes Strategic Push

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In one of the slowest defence deals in history - Medium Multi-Role Combat Air-craft (MMRCA) -, MT recently learnt that the Narendra Modi government is studying a German proposal (offering a new cheaper proposal for itsEurofighter TYPHOON), even as Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) has been negotiating with Dassault, the maker of the RAFALE, to finalise agreements to produce the aircraft in India. The RAFALE deal for 126 jets is estimated to cost €20 billion (Rs.1.6 lakh crore) over the next decade and is considered the biggest global defence tender.

Representatives of the German government met leaders of the Indian MoD and culminated in a new commercial proposal that seeks to undercut the French bid. The new German offer could bring down the total value of the contract by Rs.20,000 crore over its 10-year duration. The scale of the "discount"-formally offered in early July to Defence Minister Arun Jait-ley-was substantial enough to create ripples at the very top of the Government, with Prime Minister Modi also being apprised about the development, sources said.

In terms of the net present value- the hypothetical cost of buying the entire fleet in one go at current prices-the new offer is at a little more than €10.5 billion, while the French price is estimated to be a billion euros more. Calculated on the basis of the firm fixed price-or the amount India has to pay over 10 years-the German price comes to €17.5 billion.

Other news sources state that German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier offered 126 Eurofighter TYPHOON for approx. U$9.8 billion, about $2 billion less than the original French $12 billion.

The German offer, which has come through Eurofighter TYPHOON manufacturer Airbus Defence & Space (DS), has raised doubts over the future of the RAFALE deal even though there is no scope for a revised price offer in the defence ministry's procurement rules. Experts believe that while there is no room for renegotiating the contract under the rules, the size of the German discount would force the Indian government to take a fresh look at the price offered by France. The counter-offer is supposed to be the outcome of hectic diplomatic manoeuvring by major European powers that have a high stake in the contract due to its sheer value and the job creation potential that can boost the economy of consortium member nations.

India would also have to deal with pressure from Paris, given that France has invested a lot of political capital in the deal. France is India's third-largest supplier of defence equipment and major deals include the SCORPENE submarine line and the upgrade of the MIRAGE 2000 fleet. But the counter-offer and its financial implications can create uncertainty for the MMRCA project. And that cannot be good news for the Indian Air Force as the project is already two years behind schedule and other replacement projects such as the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) with Russia and the indigenous Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) have also been crawling.

MILITARY TECHNOLOGY: High-Stakes in Indian MMRCA, Eurofighter Makes Strategic Push
 
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Other news sources state that German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier offered 126 Eurofighter TYPHOON for approx. U$9.8 billion, about $2 billion less than the original French $12 billion.
Yeah, maybe without engine and radar :coffee:
 
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typhoon is not versatile as rafale and its a nightmare negotiating with 5 member consortium .
 
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the problem I see with the Typhoon is it's mainly a air to air fighter as it is now.
but with a order from India and some more investments from the rest of the Euofighter owners could be just as capable as the Rafale in ground attack roles.
 
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Total BS, Parrikar himself has told that MMRCA contract doesn't allow negotiation with second highest bidder nor IAF is keen only Eurofighter . Re-tendering of MMRCA will-not happen after such big saga lasting a decade , it might be simply scrapped
 
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Ek anaar sau bimaar. Itne time me anar to sar jaayega:hitwall::hitwall:
 
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the problem I see with the Typhoon is it's mainly a air to air fighter as it is now.
but with a order from India and some more investments from the rest of the Euofighter owners could be just as capable as the Rafale in ground attack roles.


Why its a Air to air fighter?


Doesnt AGM-65 Maverick, AGM-88 HARM, Brimstone,Taurus KEPD 350 Storm Shadow/Scalp EG, SPEAR
or the Paveway II/III/Enhanced Paveway series of laser-guided bombs (LGBs) ,500lb Paveway IV,Small Diameter Bomb,Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) ,HOPE/HOSBO wont work with it?
 
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The Germans are very persistent people ; there is NO doubt about that

Modi is visiting BOTH Germany and France ; he will meet
some very persuasive and charming hosts soon
 
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you buy car without engine and seat.....
no ones gonna buy shit,this is just a made up article.(not credible one atleast)
126 EF can never be offered at that price.On top of that according to #MMRCA tender cannot approach L2 and start negotiation.
 
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the problem I see with the Typhoon is it's mainly a air to air fighter as it is now.
but with a order from India and some more investments from the rest of the Euofighter owners could be just as capable as the Rafale in ground attack roles.
No Euro-fighter Improved it A2G abilities in Latest Tranches.But the Main Problem is About TOT, Indians are already Facing Hindrances in Absorbing TOT From Single Vendor like Dassault So the Complications will be More in Eurofighter which is JV.
 
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I think that IAF will prefer EUROFIGHTER if Rafale is scrapped
instead of MORE SU 30 mki
 
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No Euro-fighter Improved it A2G abilities in Latest Tranches.But the Main Problem is About TOT, Indians are already Facing Hindrances in Absorbing TOT From Single Vendor like Dassault So the Complications will be More in Eurofighter which is JV.

not yet not all of those.. soon though

Eurofighter Typhoon

A second batch of future enhancements has been submitted during the Berlin Air Show this year. “Phase 2 Enhancement (P2E)” is targeted to be implemented by the end of 2014. It focuses on the introduction of enhanced weapons expected at this time, like enhanced Storm Shadow, Taurus, supersonic delivery of Paveway IV weapons, Brimstone, Small Diameter Bomb, AMRAAM C-5/7, and Meteor. Other improvements of subsystems are also expected, including further enhancement of DASS. Further enhancements are expected for Tranche 3.]


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typical loadout of 4 Paveways and 6 A2A missiles
 
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