Have ever been to CHINA?

[beijingwalker]

Have ever been to CHINA?

 

[vishwambhar]

I always wanted to visit China especially to see the great wall and temple of heaven.... but after Corona gift by Chinese to the world and their incursions in fingers areas at LAC I will not at all visit China even if someone sponsors me the trip free of cost.... no thanks but thanks....

 

[Wine&Steak]

I have been to China. few surprises

- not able to use google severely handicapped me, to find restaurants & other things
- folks in Airport trying to sell you fake iphones ??
- felt people were really stressed unlike US, more than India.
- lots of folks on the street, like India, unlike US.
- Chinese colleagues never trusted their news & did not want to talk any politics(scared ???)
- heard from colleagues, you can never buy a house, but only lease it for like 99 years or something
- one bad thing I noticed was they serve dried fish in company cafeteria & when folks don't rinse their mouth, it smells really bad.

China is good, but I don't think they have much tourist attraction, the place I went. I have other observations, but prefer not to say here.

 

[cochine]

I have been to China many time. When China govt is not aggressive with expansion policy, China is good destination place for people in the world to visit .

 

[Kai Liu]

- felt people were really stressed unlike US, more than India.

LAMO... Do not pretent, all based on india shameless media...
See who is more stressed:

- lots of folks on the street, like India, unlike US.

More crowded than US, I agree, but like india? Come on, do not lie:

- one bad thing I noticed was they serve dried fish in company cafeteria & when folks don't rinse their mouth, it smells really bad.

I do not know which company you visited, Huawei, Tencent or whatever:

Again, indians are the most smelly people on the earth, especially when they eating their food, OMG, I still remember when I was in the US, every time my indian colleagues eating their food in the office, everyone has to walk out for the fresh air... Still feel disgusting...

What you have said is what the shameless indian media have told you... But even if you have been to China, you are not supposed to tell the truth, provided the relationship between india and China is harsh today, will you?

 

[Kai Liu]

Con't from post above, to show how indians are lying here shamelessly:
Just some ordinary random Chinese city walk vedios:
Second tier cities:

Here are more:

Compilation of drone, walk, drive, and travel videos of Chinese cities

This thread is a compilation of drone, walk, drive, and travel videos of Chinese cities which I will update regularly.

defence.pk

 

[Shehr Abbasi]

Is China trying to compete with Dubai?

 

[Kai Liu]

Is China trying to compete with Dubai?

They are different, Dubai is one city, China is a country of 1.5 billion...

 

[beijingwalker]

I have been to China. few surprises

- not able to use google severely handicapped me, to find restaurants & other things
- folks in Airport trying to sell you fake iphones ??
- felt people were really stressed unlike US, more than India.
- lots of folks on the street, like India, unlike US.
- Chinese colleagues never trusted their news & did not want to talk any politics(scared ???)
- heard from colleagues, you can never buy a house, but only lease it for like 99 years or something
- one bad thing I noticed was they serve dried fish in company cafeteria & when folks don't rinse their mouth, it smells really bad.

China is good, but I don't think they have much tourist attraction, the place I went. I have other observations, but prefer not to say here.

How long ago was your visit? Here are some Indians view about China by some Indian media

In the dragon’s den: Indians in China on what life is like in the country amid a stand-off between two nations

BySuktara Ghosh / Updated: Jun 28, 2020, 11:26 IST

While the border remains tense, Mirror speaks to a few Indians based in China to know what life is like in the country at a time when ties between the two nations are plumbing a new low.

Suranjana Roy Bhattacharya, 49
Shanghai

“My husband came to Shanghai for a four-year assignment in 2008, and when it was time to return, he changed jobs so we could stay on. That’s how much we like this place,” says Bhattacharya, who’s from Kolkata.

It’s an Asian country with first world infrastructure, “so you get the best of both worlds,”says the journalist-turnedfreelance writer. “You can’t imagine the construction activities and upgrading that go on. Buildings to buses, everything looks new. It’s also very green.” There’s an upbeat vibe in cities as well as the interiors of the country, and there is little visible disparity of wealth. “I love how old people spontaneously put on music and break into a dance on the streets or do Tai Chi.”

The state, she says, plans extensively to help the most vulnerable. “For instance, post pandemic, there have been micro-specific policy actions to help businesses recover. Taxes are being restructured in such a way that people get actual monetary relief. It’s one of the major reasons why China has turned around so fast.”

While Bhattacharya hasn’t experienced any anti-India sentiment, she has observed a particular bias towards white people, “which sometimes translates to prejudice against black people”.

Amit Waikar, 44
Shanghai

The vice-president of Döhler Group has clocked a decade in China with his family and even turned down an opportunity to move to the US. “It was a bit of a shock for my boss,” says Waikar, who received the prestigious Pravasi Bharatiya Samman Award from President Ram Nath Kovind last year. The son of an Army doctor, he admits he initially had doubts about what his father referred to as “dushman desh” (enemy country). But his opinions were quickly revised. “They are an extremely hardworking and sincere people. My domestic help hasn’t been absent or even late once in 10 years,” he shares.

Also, most importantly, there’s a clear line between politics and business. “This is what defines the Chinese. For them, business is god,” says Waikar, who hails from Nagpur. “Their strongest political opponents — Japan, Taiwan and the US — are also their biggest business partners. Once you recognise and respect this, dealing with them becomes uncomplicated. And like us, they value connections a lot.”

There’s no hostility when it comes to India, either. “It’s not enforced. People in mainland China don’t know about the 1960s aggression, and there’s barely any mention of the current stand-off in the mainstream media.” Waikar and his wife, Aparna, especially appreciate the respectful attitude towards women. “I see smartly dressed young women managing toll booths on highways at 3 am and they have nothing to fear. It makes me wonder when we’ll have that in India,” he says.

Dr Deepak Hegde , 50
Shanghai

The chief technology officer with EOC Pharma has been working in the pharmaceutical research sector in China since 2007. “The country has a very strong indigenous new drug research sector, thanks to its policies on innovation, patents and incentives,” says Deepak Hegde, who’s from Thane. “Biotechnology is one of the key strategic areas for the government, and they have projects locked down for at least the next 10 years.”

Concerns over strained international relations post the Covid outbreak haven’t slowed them down. “Here, the backlash is widely seen as political because of the stand-off with the US. But there’s no negativity in the scientific field. Three Covid-19 vaccines are already in phase III of development,” says Hegde, adding that the levels of Chinese professionalism and civility never fail to amaze him. “As Indians, my family and I have never experienced hostility during political tensions between the countries. People are always respectful and welcoming.”

Hegde adds that the Chinese government’s systematic handling of the lockdown has been exemplary. “Remember, the pandemic struck here in the end of January during the Chinese New Year, when millions travel across the country,” he points out.

“Despite the mass migration, the government managed to control it with the help of infrastructure, technology and the application of artificial intelligence. The 1,000-bed Huoshenshan Hospital in Wuhan was built in 10 days. Medical insurance is provided by the state, and the quality of healthcare at government hospitals is comparable to India’s best private hospitals.”

Anuja Dorle, 43
Shanghai

The education system in China is as robust as it gets, says Dorle, who holds an administrative position at the Shanghai American School. In a cosmopolitan city like Shanghai, there are many international schools catering to different syllabi. Local schools are either bilingual or instruct in Chinese. “Public school education is excellent. The standard of education at even ordinary public schools is high,” says Dorle, who moved to China from the US in 2010, as her husband, Samir’s job took him there.

Diversity and inclusion is managed through policies. “Organisations, schools and colleges included, have regulations to filter out racism and genderrelated biases,” says Dorle, who hails from Aurangabad. Schools strive to have a 50-50 ratio and the education about equal treatment percolates into daily life as well. “As a woman, you never feel unsafe.”

The warm-heartedness of the people made Dorle feel quite at home, even before she picked up what she calls “survival Chinese” — basic linguistic skills. “When people spot my mother or mother-inlaw in saris, they make an effort to interact, despite the language barrier, sometimes even take a picture,” she says. “There’s special respect for Indians because Buddhism is widely followed, and the Buddha hails from India."

AK Raj, 54
Shanghai

AK Raj


The ex-banker from Borivali has been living in Shanghai with four generations of his family — his mother and grandson live there, too — since 2013. And he is all praise for the civic governance machinery. “I don’t have to complain about clogged drains or waterlogged roads. Everything from healthcare to education to transport runs like clockwork,” he says.

Raj says that contrary to popular belief, he has seen little sign of corruption. “I worked in the finance sector and I didn’t come across it. The police don’t harass you, cabbies don’t overcharge… A taxi company, we once used, even returned a lost passport and refused to take any money as reward,” he shares.

Politics, however, is off limits. “As long as you don’t talk about or criticise the government, foreigners are very welcome. The locals too, feel they need not worry their head about politics — it can be handled by the leaders in Beijing,” he says. “People here seem happy to work for the Communist government. And, unlike in India, they don’t spend hundreds of millions on elections.”


Varun Hadkar , 34
Beijing
Varun Hadkar, who has a home in Juhu, believes that since his move to Beijing in 2015, the Chinese has shown him how to attain perfection at work. “They have a single-minded focus and aim to do the best job possible,” he says, and adds with a laugh, “they don’t have the Indian talent for jugaad though.”

Hadkar, who works with an organisation that focuses on the production and post-production of movies and web shows, is seeing a transformation in Chinese cinema. “Romantic dramas and mythological and historical films are very popular. Indian films are too: 3 Idiots, Dangal and Andhadhun were blockbusters, and most cab drivers know at least a couple of Bollywood songs,” he says. “But now Chinese movies are exploring off-beat genres, especially science fiction. The production value of their films matches that of Hollywood films.”

The pandemic has brought the business to the cusp of a huge change. Movies are not only finding their way to OTT platforms but to TikTok as well — Xu Zheng’s Lost in Russia has become a sensation on the platform. “The government has announced tax rebates, which really help us,” says Hadkar, adding that he feels Beijing — and China, in general — handled the pandemic very well. “There was a total lockdown and every time you went out of the building, you had to scan a QR code and get your temperature checked.”

Hadkar loves his life in Beijing and says that people open up very readily if one is conversant in Chinese.

“The young generation is making an effort to learn English, but older people, too, will try to communicate if you know the language even a little. Like Indians, they are a family-oriented people, so I’m always being invited to dinners, parties and weddings.”

https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/others/sunday-read/call-of-beauty/articleshow/76666642.cms

 

[casual]

ha, not like anyone can get in china now.

 

[khail007]

Never to China, but my some relatives with good experience and I wish I will in near future.
In 1968-69, in my childhood, my father spent 6 months in China and even in that time he brought us some good picture of China and nice gifts.
So again, I wish I could.

 

[Viet]

I like Chicago, a wonderful place in summer. Free public concerts, wonderful zoos, museums. I worked there for a while. The capital city Washington is much better than thought. Clean, safe, nice People. I like San Jose, a city where many exile Vietnamese have settled. Arriving San Jose is like coming home. Visiting friends and families. In Asia, Singapore is best.
Have I ever been to China? Yes. But China has changed too much unfortunately.

 

[Kai Liu]

I can bet india can never achieve the level of cleanliness of Chinese cities, such as this tiny 4th tier city in Shandong province:

And this 3rd tier city also in Shandong province:

This kind of environment is more and more becoming standard even in those unknown small cities here...

 

[Kai Liu]

Have I ever been to China? Yes. But China has changed too much unfortunately.

I thought you have never been to China, as you have said somewhere in this forum.
And why 'unfortunately'? Things are changing in the right direction, better infrastructure, better civic sense, better environment, people becoming more polite, etc. etc..

 

[Kai Liu]

I have been to China many time. When China govt is not aggressive with expansion policy, China is good destination place for people in the world to visit .

Welcome. There is a saying in Chinese '求同存异’, which means ‘seeking common ground while reserving our differences.'