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Has China already won in the South China Sea

Has China already won in the South China Sea

  • Already Won

    Votes: 16 45.7%
  • No

    Votes: 9 25.7%
  • Not Determined Yet

    Votes: 10 28.6%

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CrazyZ

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My personal view is that China has already largely won in the South China Sea. It has already built multiple islands and a large fleet to secure its claims. USA has not really challenged the Chinese build up other then sail some war ships through the area. That would be very difficult if China wanted to stop it. Other countries..Philippines Vietnam etc have not seriously challenged China militarily...nor do they have the capacity to. Its not a complete victory yet but its like a 90% victory IMO. What do other PDFers think?
 
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My personal view is that China has already largely won in the South China Sea. It has already built multiple islands and a large fleet to secure its claims. USA has not really challenged the Chinese build up other then sail some war ships through the area. That would be very difficult if China wanted to stop it. Other countries..Philippines Vietnam etc have not seriously challenged China militarily...nor do they have the capacity to. Its not a complete victory yet but its like an 90% victory IMO. What do other PDFers think?

Lol...clearly you do not have any idea of what's going on there. Hundreds of Naval ships from opposing forces (global forces) are hounding China in their own backyard (South China Sea)...pushing Chinese looking for alternative trade routes (CPEC, Central Asia to Europe, Iran to Gulf etc)...and your personal view is China has won....they are trembling, trying hard to keep up their ego...wait for one more moth
 
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Lol...clearly you do not have any idea of what's going on there. Hundreds of Naval ships from opposing forces (global forces) are hounding China in their own backyard (South China Sea)...pushing Chinese looking for alternative trade routes (CPEC, Central Asia to Europe, Iran to Gulf etc)...and your personal view is China has won....they are trembling, trying hard to keep up their ego...wait for one more moth
If it was Libya claiming the South China Sea.....USA would have already bombed and destroyed those islands. USA really hasn't challenged the Chinese build up. Its too late now. All those freedom of navigation exercise are for media consumption. They would end dramatically if China wanted to stop them.
 
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My personal view is that China has already largely won in the South China Sea. It has already built multiple islands and a large fleet to secure its claims. USA has not really challenged the Chinese build up other then sail some war ships through the area. That would be very difficult if China wanted to stop it. Other countries..Philippines Vietnam etc have not seriously challenged China militarily...nor do they have the capacity to. Its not a complete victory yet but its like a 90% victory IMO. What do other PDFers think?
IMO for China, its mission is already accomplished. Airfields are already completed.
Frim henceforth no USN submarines can prowl around the SCS undetected prempting US attempts for its 1st Strike Nuclear Option.
It has already established 7 islands military or stars strategem with SOSUS already installed, quantum and laser radar, etc.
What USA concern is not about Maritime Freedom of Navigation but its Undersea USN Freedom of Navigation?
The continuous intrusion by US military gave China the legitimacy to do so.
So who do you think won the chess game?
Apart from USN, which navy can really challenge PLAN today.

ICJ a legitimate UN body has ruled that the Diego Garcia US Military Base is illegally occupied and it belongs to Mauritus , so when is USA going to evict rhe base in compliance?

https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-diego-garcia-air-base-indian-ocean-2019-8
 
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List of China's enemies and their spanking:

Xinjiang separatists -- defeated in 2017 using reeducation camps

Hong Kong separatists -- defeated in 2020 using mass arrests

Taiwan separatists -- to be defeated in late 2020 using air and missile strikes

Philippines -- defeated in 2020 after Scarborough Shoal navy exercises

Vietnam -- defeated in 2020 after oil companies abandoned exploration

Malaysia -- defeated in 2020 after oil companies abandoned exploration


India -- defeated in 2020 after Galway Valley and Pangong Lake South Shore clashes

USA -- mortally wounded by coronavirus, dollar hegemony weakened, Trump humiliated and kicked out in 2020
 
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Lol...clearly you do not have any idea of what's going on there. Hundreds of Naval ships from opposing forces (global forces) are hounding China in their own backyard (South China Sea)...pushing Chinese looking for alternative trade routes (CPEC, Central Asia to Europe, Iran to Gulf etc)...and your personal view is China has won....they are trembling, trying hard to keep up their ego...wait for one more moth



ya ya ya...
 
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List of China's enemies and their spanking:

Xinjiang separatists -- defeated in 2017 using reeducation camps

Hong Kong separatists -- defeated in 2020 using mass arrests

Taiwan separatists -- to be defeated in late 2020 using air and missile strikes

Philippines -- defeated in 2020 after Scarborough Shoal navy exercises

Vietnam -- defeated in 2020 after oil companies abandoned exploration

Malaysia -- defeated in 2020 after oil companies abandoned exploration


India -- defeated in 2020 after Galway Valley and Pangong Lake South Shore clashes

USA -- mortally wounded by coronavirus, dollar hegemony weakened, Trump humiliated and kicked out in 2020

King of prophecy.
 
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Lol...clearly you do not have any idea of what's going on there. Hundreds of Naval ships from opposing forces (global forces) are hounding China in their own backyard (South China Sea)...pushing Chinese looking for alternative trade routes (CPEC, Central Asia to Europe, Iran to Gulf etc)...and your personal view is China has won....they are trembling, trying hard to keep up their ego...wait for one more moth

New Zealanders are at a greater threat from expanding China as you may be kicked out of the illegal occupation of Maori lands. If you do a gene mapping you find the Maoris are more related to the Chinese than the white Europeans.
 
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My personal view is that China has already largely won in the South China Sea. It has already built multiple islands and a large fleet to secure its claims. USA has not really challenged the Chinese build up other then sail some war ships through the area. That would be very difficult if China wanted to stop it. Other countries..Philippines Vietnam etc have not seriously challenged China militarily...nor do they have the capacity to. Its not a complete victory yet but its like a 90% victory IMO. What do other PDFers think?
China won 90%? Are you serious?
It’s like if I say I win $1m in lottery. But 90%.
 
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My personal view is that China has already largely won in the South China Sea. It has already built multiple islands and a large fleet to secure its claims. USA has not really challenged the Chinese build up other then sail some war ships through the area. That would be very difficult if China wanted to stop it. Other countries..Philippines Vietnam etc have not seriously challenged China militarily...nor do they have the capacity to. Its not a complete victory yet but its like a 90% victory IMO. What do other PDFers think?
Haha, u need to check again ur IQ,seriously :lol:

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Thanks for ur support bro, but PLAN is usless and coward, thats why CN only control 10-12 % of SCS ( east VN sea) while VN control 60-65%. Thats the reason why US-JP-SK supported CN against VN in 1978.:laugh:

Philippines
Republic of China (Taiwan)
Vietnam
Malaysia
People's Republic of China



If it was Libya claiming the South China Sea.....USA would have already bombed and destroyed those islands. USA really hasn't challenged the Chinese build up. Its too late now. All those freedom of navigation exercise are for media consumption. They would end dramatically if China wanted to stop them.
CN only control 10-12% of SCS ( east VN sea) ,too little, too small to become US threat there.

Thats why Trump only focus on trade war against CN, cos PLA is stupid army, no nid to waste time fighting against.
 
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Haha, u need to check again ur IQ,seriously :lol:

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Thanks for ur support bro, but PLAN is usless and coward, thats why CN only control 10-12 % of SCS ( east VN sea) while VN control 60-65%. Thats the reason why US-JP-SK supported CN against VN in 1978.:laugh:

Philippines
Republic of China (Taiwan)
Vietnam
Malaysia
People's Republic of China




CN only control 10-12% of SCS ( east VN sea) ,too little, too small to become US threat there.

Thats why Trump only focus on trade war against CN, cos PLA is stupid army, no nid to waste time fighting against.
Like how u can't drill any oil inside 9 dash line now. And all your small islet combined still can't beat 2 of our largest man made island combined in mass area size..
 
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Like how u can't drill any oil inside 9 dash line now. And all your small islet combined still can't beat 2 of our largest man made island combined in mass area size..
Keep making yourself happy, stupid PLA only "strong" enough to control 10-12% there.Nothing change :lol:
 
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Haha, u need to check again ur IQ,seriously :lol:

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Thanks for ur support bro, but PLAN is usless and coward, thats why CN only control 10-12 % of SCS ( east VN sea) while VN control 60-65%. Thats the reason why US-JP-SK supported CN against VN in 1978.:laugh:

Philippines
Republic of China (Taiwan)
Vietnam
Malaysia
People's Republic of China




CN only control 10-12% of SCS ( east VN sea) ,too little, too small to become US threat there.

Thats why Trump only focus on trade war against CN, cos PLA is stupid army, no nid to waste time fighting against.
Its not a question of intellect. As a third party observer....China largely controls oil drilling and fishing in most of the South China Sea. It has secured its claims with a large navy and forward island bases. In multiple standoffs other nations have backed down to China.....including Vietnam. In practice and in practical military terms....China already controls most of the area.
 
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