Harvard Scientist Debunks Hindu Nationalists "Racial Purity" Myth

[RiazHaq]

Harvard Scientist Debunks Hindu Nationalists "Racial Purity" Myth

Male ancestors of the vast majority of present-day South Asians (Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis) came from West Eurasia, Central Asia and...

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Male ancestors of the vast majority of present-day South Asians (Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis) came from Central Asia and Iran, according to the latest DNA research led by Harvard geneticist Dr. David Reich. Reich's team came to this conclusion after studying the Y-chromosomes of present-day Indians. Some Hindu Indian scientists have used mitochondrial DNA samples from recently discovered ancient skeletal remains of a couple in Rakigarh in Haryana to claim the local origins of all Hindus. Y-chromosomes are passed from father to son while mitochondrial DNA is passed from mother to children. The Harvard team's findings thoroughly debunk Hindu Nationalists' "racial purity" myth similar to that promoted by White Supremacist racists in the West.

David Reich's "Who We Are"

Reich's Indian counterparts were highly resistant to the Harvard team findings about origins of modern-day South Asians. Here's an excerpt from David Reich's "Who We Are and How We Got Here":
"Based on their own mitochondrial DNA studies, it was clear to them (Indians) that the great majority of mitochondrial DNA lineages present in India today had resided in the subcontinent for many tens of thousands of years.They did not want to be part of a study that suggested a major West Eurasian incursion into India without being absolutely certain as to how the whole-genome data could be reconciled with their mitochondrial DNA findings. They also implied that the suggestion of a migration from West Eurasia would be politically explosive. They did not explicitly say this, but it had obvious overtones of the idea that migration from outside India had a transformative effect on the (South Asian) subcontinent".

To see why the Indian researchers believed the acceptance of West Eurasian origins of present-day Hindus would be political explosive, it is important to understand the myth of racial purity that underlies the Hindu Nationalists' racist ideology. Here's an excerpt from a book by Madhav Sadashiv Golwalkar, leader of the Hindu Nationalist RSS (Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh) :

"To keep up the purity of the Race and its culture, Germany shocked the world by her purging the country of the Semitic races -- the Jews. Race pride at its highest has been manifested here. Germany has also shown how well-nigh impossible it is for races and cultures, having differences going to the root, to be assimilated into one united whole, a good lesson for us in Hindusthan to learn and profit by."

Based on DNA studies, Reich divides Indians into two major groups: Ancestral North Indians (ANI) and Ancestral South Indians (ASI). He finds that the ANI have much higher percentage of ancestral DNA from Central Asia and Iran than the ASI. He also finds links between ancestral DNA and castes in India. Here is an excerpt:

"Groups of traditionally higher social status in the Indian caste system typically have a higher proportion of ANI ancestry than those of traditionally lower social status, even within the same state of India where everyone speaks the same language. For example, Brahmins, the priestly caste, tend to have more ANI ancestry than the groups they live among, even those speaking the same language. Although there are groups in India that are exceptions to these patterns, including well-documented cases where whole groups have shifted social status, the findings are statistically clear, and suggest that the ANI-ASI mixture in ancient India occurred in the context of social stratification".

Could there have been out-of-India migration that might explain common genetic origins of Indians and West Eurasians? This is a possibility raised by Indian researchers in response to the inward migration of West Eurasians to India. Reich doubts it based on the absence of any ASI ancestry in West Eurasia. Here's how Reich responds to it:

"Although (Indian researchers) Singh and Thangaraj entertained the possibility of a migration out of India and into points as far west as Europe to explain the relatedness between the ANI and West Eurasian populations, I have always thought, based on the absence of any trace of ASI ancestry in the great majority of West Eurasians today and the extreme geographic position of India within the present-day distribution of peoples bearing West Eurasian–related ancestry, that the shared ancestry likely reflected ancient migrations into South Asia from the north or west".


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Harvard Scientist Debunks Hindu Nationalists "Racial Purity" Myth

Male ancestors of the vast majority of present-day South Asians (Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis) came from West Eurasia, Central Asia and...

www.southasiainvestor.com

 

[RiazHaq]

#Genetic studies of common ancestral origins have shown that populations of the #MiddleEast, Central Asia, #Pakistan and North #India share a light skin gene (allele of SLC24A5) that occurs in #Europe. Light skin gene is conspicuously absent in South India http://www.riazhaq.com/2021/02/harvard-scientist-debunks-hindu.html

 

[Drizzt]

This is another proof that HIndu Caste System is a racial system. Its real purpose was to segregate 75%-80% lower caste population from dominant 10% to 15% upper caste population. And kill any competition from lower caste populations.

A large portion of Indian Muslims are converts from 75% OBC SC ST(Constitutional terms of Lower Caste ethnicities) populations to escape caste system. So, OBC-SC-ST have more blood relation with Muslims and other minorities. While, there is virtually no blood relation between upper caste and OBC SC ST in 5000 years, because of caste system.

Sad reality is, in Hindu-Muslims riots, upper castes use vicious propaganda to pit OBC-SC-ST against Muslims. This is the main purpose of organizations like RSS and Bajrang Dal. By creating these riots upper-castes achieve many objectives at the same time:
1. Create rift between OBC SC ST communities and Muslims communities- makes natural political alliance difficult, hinders the spread of Islam(from Muslims to OBC SC ST communities).
2. Muslims in India are also mixed with other strong ruling Islamic ethnicities, So, they can put up a better than fight intellectually and in other fields, against upper castes. Riots marginalize and suppresses their main competition.
3. Each riot is small civil war, and war is the most profitable business. Whatever Muslims earn by toiling in Arab countries and investing in some business in India, is targeted in riots.
4. OBC SC ST masses, who have no strong religious feeling towards Hinduism, a religion which persecuted their ancestors, get radicalized and forget everything about caste discrimination. Instead of focussing on assertion and upward mobility, gets diverted into having a suspicion/hatred for minorities.

For a OBC-SC-ST, there can be nothing worse than Fighting with your own blood brothers, for a religion that has subjugated your ancestors for 5000 years.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Racism is a curse.

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

This is another proof that HIndu Caste System is a racial system. Its real purpose was to segregate 75%-80% lower caste population from dominant 10% to 15% upper caste population. And kill any competition from lower caste populations.

A large portion of Indian Muslims are converts from 75% OBC SC ST(Constitutional terms of Lower Caste ethnicities) populations to escape caste system. So, OBC-SC-ST have more blood relation with Muslims and other minorities. While, there is virtually no blood relation between upper caste and OBC SC ST in 5000 years, because of caste system.

Sad reality is, in Hindu-Muslims riots, upper castes use vicious propaganda to pit OBC-SC-ST against Muslims. This is the main purpose of organizations like RSS and Bajrang Dal. By creating these riots upper-castes achieve many objectives at the same time:
1. Create rift between OBC SC ST communities and Muslims communities- makes natural political alliance difficult, hinders the spread of Islam(from Muslims to OBC SC ST communities).
2. Muslims in India are also mixed with other strong ruling Islamic ethnicities, So, they can put up a better than fight intellectually and in other fields, against upper castes. Riots marginalize and suppresses their main competition.
3. Each riot is small civil war, and war is the most profitable business. Whatever Muslims earn by toiling in Arab countries and investing in some business in India, is targeted in riots.
4. OBC SC ST masses, who have no strong religious feeling towards Hinduism, a religion which persecuted their ancestors, get radicalized and forget everything about caste discrimination. Instead of focussing on assertion and upward mobility, gets diverted into having a suspicion/hatred for minorities.

For a OBC-SC-ST, there can be nothing worse than Fighting with your own blood brothers, for a religion that has subjugated your ancestors for 5000 years.

yeah. i think a lower caste hindu can live more freely in an islamic country than a proper hindu rasht country.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Harvard Scientist Debunks Hindu Nationalists "Racial Purity" Myth

Male ancestors of the vast majority of present-day South Asians (Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis) came from West Eurasia, Central Asia and...

www.southasiainvestor.com

Male ancestors of the vast majority of present-day South Asians (Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis) came from Central Asia and Iran, according to the latest DNA research led by Harvard geneticist Dr. David Reich. Reich's team came to this conclusion after studying the Y-chromosomes of present-day Indians. Some Hindu Indian scientists have used mitochondrial DNA samples from recently discovered ancient skeletal remains of a couple in Rakigarh in Haryana to claim the local origins of all Hindus. Y-chromosomes are passed from father to son while mitochondrial DNA is passed from mother to children. The Harvard team's findings thoroughly debunk Hindu Nationalists' "racial purity" myth similar to that promoted by White Supremacist racists in the West.

David Reich's "Who We Are"

Reich's Indian counterparts were highly resistant to the Harvard team findings about origins of modern-day South Asians. Here's an excerpt from David Reich's "Who We Are and How We Got Here":
"Based on their own mitochondrial DNA studies, it was clear to them (Indians) that the great majority of mitochondrial DNA lineages present in India today had resided in the subcontinent for many tens of thousands of years.They did not want to be part of a study that suggested a major West Eurasian incursion into India without being absolutely certain as to how the whole-genome data could be reconciled with their mitochondrial DNA findings. They also implied that the suggestion of a migration from West Eurasia would be politically explosive. They did not explicitly say this, but it had obvious overtones of the idea that migration from outside India had a transformative effect on the (South Asian) subcontinent".

To see why the Indian researchers believed the acceptance of West Eurasian origins of present-day Hindus would be political explosive, it is important to understand the myth of racial purity that underlies the Hindu Nationalists' racist ideology. Here's an excerpt from a book by Madhav Sadashiv Golwalkar, leader of the Hindu Nationalist RSS (Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh) :

"To keep up the purity of the Race and its culture, Germany shocked the world by her purging the country of the Semitic races -- the Jews. Race pride at its highest has been manifested here. Germany has also shown how well-nigh impossible it is for races and cultures, having differences going to the root, to be assimilated into one united whole, a good lesson for us in Hindusthan to learn and profit by."

Based on DNA studies, Reich divides Indians into two major groups: Ancestral North Indians (ANI) and Ancestral South Indians (ASI). He finds that the ANI have much higher percentage of ancestral DNA from Central Asia and Iran than the ASI. He also finds links between ancestral DNA and castes in India. Here is an excerpt:

"Groups of traditionally higher social status in the Indian caste system typically have a higher proportion of ANI ancestry than those of traditionally lower social status, even within the same state of India where everyone speaks the same language. For example, Brahmins, the priestly caste, tend to have more ANI ancestry than the groups they live among, even those speaking the same language. Although there are groups in India that are exceptions to these patterns, including well-documented cases where whole groups have shifted social status, the findings are statistically clear, and suggest that the ANI-ASI mixture in ancient India occurred in the context of social stratification".

Could there have been out-of-India migration that might explain common genetic origins of Indians and West Eurasians? This is a possibility raised by Indian researchers in response to the inward migration of West Eurasians to India. Reich doubts it based on the absence of any ASI ancestry in West Eurasia. Here's how Reich responds to it:

"Although (Indian researchers) Singh and Thangaraj entertained the possibility of a migration out of India and into points as far west as Europe to explain the relatedness between the ANI and West Eurasian populations, I have always thought, based on the absence of any trace of ASI ancestry in the great majority of West Eurasians today and the extreme geographic position of India within the present-day distribution of peoples bearing West Eurasian–related ancestry, that the shared ancestry likely reflected ancient migrations into South Asia from the north or west".


Related Links:

Haq's Musings

South Asia Investor Review

Hindu Nazis

Lynchistan: Modi's India Lynching Muslims

World Values Survey Finds Indians Most Racist

Indians Admire Israel and Hitler

Caste Apartheid in India

Religion, Caste and Politics in India by Christophe Jaffrelot

Mahatma Gandhi and His Struggle With India

Who Killed Karkare?

Procrastinating on Hindutva Terror

India's Guantanamos and Abu Ghraibs

Hindutva Government in Israeli Exile?

Growing US-India Military Ties Worry Pakistan

The 21st Century Challenges For Resurgent India

Riaz Haq's Youtube Channel

PakAlumni Social Network

Harvard Scientist Debunks Hindu Nationalists "Racial Purity" Myth

Male ancestors of the vast majority of present-day South Asians (Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis) came from West Eurasia, Central Asia and...

www.southasiainvestor.com

The above disproves and destroys the myth of hindu nationalism forever.................

 

[Chhatrapati]

This is another proof that HIndu Caste System is a racial system.

The stupidity in the first line itself makes the whole case irrelevant. The race is based on Physical features while caste has nothing to do with. Caste system can be at best compared to tribes.

 

[TNT]

Oh No hindus are not pure anymore. They should start drinking more and more cowpiss and eat alot of cow dung to bring back that purity. If that doesnt work, all of them should burn their distorted gene bodies.

 

[Suriya]

yeah. i think a lower caste hindu can live more freely in an islamic country than a proper hindu rasht country.

@Drizzt Upper castes are 15 to 20 percent of Hindu population. Still there had never been a caste war between two different Hindu castes in 5000 years Hindu history.

All points u made can easily be rebutted but that will be waste of time.


Instead I will say something India Muslim and other minorities know well,
EVery time there is communal Hindu-muslim riots, it's the so called Hindu lower castes who take the most active part in it and do so voluntarily.

 

[Leishangthem]

Imagine if like China, India won a plethora of olympic medals ?
Imagine if Indians had light skin tone like east asians and europeans?
Imagine if Indians didn't had dominant ABCC11 gene?
Imagine if Indians had the build or stature of Europeans or East asians?
Imagine if India had lead in AI,infrastructure,education,global enterprise,and everything close to what China and much of East Asian and Eurpope?
Imagine this nation with 82 IQ thinking they are the pinnacle of human species? these folk would be unbearable when they are already like this.

It's like the saying ,according to the discussion between two mad person,it's the rest of the world which is rather mad.