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HAL AMCA India’s fifth generation fighter update
BY DEFENCEUPDATE · MARCH 1, 2016


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Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) is an Indian programme of a fifth-generation fighter aircraft. It is being developed by an aerospace industry team which consist of Aeronautical Development Agency as a design firm and to be manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL). It is a single-seat, twin-engine, stealth supermaneuverable all weather multirole fighter aircraft. Unofficial design work on the AMCA started in 2008 with official work started in 2011 and completed in 2014. In 2008 Indian Navy joined the programme for the naval variant optimized for the aircraft carriers operation. The first flight is scheduled to occur in 2023–2024.

It is a multirole combat aircraft designed for the air superiority, ground attack, bombing, intercepting, Strike and other types of roles. It combines supercruise, stealth, AESA radar, maneuverability, and advanced avionics to overcome and suppress previous generation fighter aircraft along with many ground and maritime defences.

The AMCA preliminary design was changed several times, to adopt new model engines, Radar’s and long range missiles. Like how the A 10 developed to carry the GAU 8 Avenger cannon. The AMCA also developed to carry multi national equipment’s like Missiles, Radar’s and Engines.

Currently more than 4000 employers assigned into the AMCA project,where they extracted from ADA, DRDO, HAL and some other leading private companies. The AMCA team identified three major technical works. Which are Thrust vectoring, super cruise Engines, Active radar’s and other processing system and the radar absorbent material.

Engine
India asks for a joint development of fifth generation engines with foreign nations. It’s reported India might need more than 2000 plus Engines for AMCA. India already has initiated a Engine project named Kaveri. India wants the new engine who powers the AMCA must be based on the Kaveri. In response many foreign nations responded for the Joint Engine development program.

Currently three countries tries to seal the AMCA engine development program. US, France and England offers their known engine companies like General Electric, Snecma and Rolls Royce respectively. GE from America offered engine development based on the F 414 engine, and the Snecma announced the M 88 engine who powers the Rafale and the Rolls Royce also offered the EJ 200 engine for joint development with Kaveri.

As per last known reports, US company General Electric leads in the program. who already supplying F 404 engines for LCA Tejas. GE also set ups manufacturing plants in India to produce aviation engines in India.

Radar
As same like every other fifth generation fighters, The AMCA too hosts superior avionics and sensor suites. The AMCA hosts new generation GaN based AESA for superior detection and performance. Currently there is no fighter jets has GaN based AESA radars. However many ground based radar available with GaN transceiver modules.

Some information’s reported that, state owned LRDE is initiated a project to develop a small size air borne X band GaN based AESA radar for AMCA. LRDE already shows a model of AESA radar in last years Aero India exhibition. However the Uttam is not good for fifth generation fighters like AMCA.

It’s reported earlier that, India and Israel working for a joint project to develop a GaN based AESA for fighter jets. However due to the importance of the program the information’s are highly classified. It’s clear the Radar too be a joint venture between either US or Israel.

Sensor
The infrared based systems like IRST, missile warning systems, laser warning system also added internally in the AMCA. The IRST sensors are placed in all sides of the AMCA to provide full angle coverage like in Rafale and F 35. The proposed IRST system is work similar to the F 35’s EOTS who shares the information’s to friendly units like via the satellite and highly secured data links.

AMCA also comes with self protection jammer system to jam enemy radar guided missiles from both air and ground. electronic counter measure systems to confuse the infrared guided missiles and a radar warning receiver too added to detect enemy radar frequency’s.

The Senor suites in AMCA led by the LRDE and BEL which include many private and foreign contributes.

Propulsion and Avionics
AMCA is a twin-engines aircraft which is powered by 2X GTRE k9 + or K 10 engine that can capable of producing 11-Kn-125Kn thrust each.The aircraft has a maximum take off weight is 29 tonnes:2 tonnes of internal weapons and 4 tonnes of internal fuel.It can achieve maximum speed of 2.5+ Mach (2665 + Km/h) at altitude and Mach 1.2 at sea level and have a cruise speed of Mach 1.6 at supercruise.The AMCA would have range of 2800 km and climb at the altitudes @ 13,716m/min.

The HAL AMCA has integrated with latest avionics suite which include AESA radar,Integrated avionics systems,Helmet Mounted Display,Datalink capabilities,IRST,E/O Targeting System (EOTS),Multi-functional integrated radio electronics system (MIRES),ECM Suite,Laser-based counter-measures against infrared missiles,IRST for airborne targets,Ultraviolet warning sensors and Targeting pod.

Armaments
The armaments includes 23 mm GSh-23 cannon gun and 8 hardpoints in stealthy configuration and 12 maximum hardpoints id non stealth load.The aircraft is mounted with Astra missile for long range BVRAAM combat ,Python 5 all aspect short range missile and Vympel R-73 short/visual range combat missile.



It’s Reported the AMCA will be ready by early 2020 or before and HAL starts flying the first flight of fully developed AMCA by 2021. with the initial low rate initial production by 2024. And the air force gets the first AMCA squad by 2025. If all things goes per schedule
 
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I didn't read any update about HAL AMCA ......................So sharing with all of you............... still good if we able to produce aircarft froM 2022........................It will be replaced Mig 29 Mirage2000 and jaguar................all planes still have 10-15 years life

The results will be same like Tejas.....;)

not likely............... before we don't have base to Make fighter planes but LCA provides that opportunity.

Without LCA experience we would not be able to try & Make AMCA..............

You can't just wakeup and start making fighter planes
 
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The results will be same like Tejas.....;)
We took years to make Dhruv, now watch at our heli collection.
We crawled in missile tech project for decades. watch at our missiles now.
Our warship building capability was a joke. Watch at our naval power now.
As we have got experience about what to do not to do from LCA, this won't delay.
 
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Sombody pls tell me how will be the exhaust design?f22type flat or mki type round one?

Also amca being a medium weight class ac like rafale/f18,its possible to devolope it in to electronic attack aircraft like growler. Obviously we need israeli help for that...
 
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Sombody pls tell me how will be the exhaust design?f22type flat or mki type round one?

Also amca being a medium weight class ac like rafale/f18,its possible to devolope it in to electronic attack aircraft like growler. Obviously we need israeli help for that...


It will be only round type...

If I remember someone's post, flat type is with the air frame not along with engine, it's very expensive it seems .
 
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HI Guys
Please ignore him............. he always talks meaning less and out of from reality and logic
 
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I didn't read any update about HAL AMCA ......................So sharing with all of you............... still good if we able to produce aircarft froM 2022........................It will be replaced Mig 29 Mirage2000 and jaguar................all planes still have 10-15 years life



not likely............... before we don't have base to Make fighter planes but LCA provides that opportunity.

Without LCA experience we would not be able to try & Make AMCA..............

You can't just wakeup and start making fighter planes
History suggests otherwise
First plane was HF-24 made HAL with the help of German scientist and many others firms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_HF-24_Marut
PAF shot down 2 of those and it didn't scored any kills.

Sombody pls tell me how will be the exhaust design?f22type flat or mki type round one?

Also amca being a medium weight class ac like rafale/f18,its possible to devolope it in to electronic attack aircraft like growler. Obviously we need israeli help for that...
Round as per the models suggest,yes you can but you might not need to as you have awacs for that you need growler type aircraft when you are for example are from america and fighting in IRAQ where there are no awacs
 
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HI Guys
Please ignore him............. he always talks meaning less and out of from reality and logic

Yeah usually I ignore, today don't know why I reported..
Thanks for reminding me..
 
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Yes we are ahead in our state of the art :
Proudly describing......Our thunder....The thunder that will light to shoot your Tejas , AMCA or whatever down....


Kid.Dont you have anything to study ?
Go kid concentrate on your studies .LCA Tejas ,Its aerodynamic structure .The experience that we got from LCA ,such things are not your concern .Any can assume from your posts that you are simply not matured to post in technical threads of PDF.
 
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History suggests otherwise
First plane was HF-24 made HAL with the help of German scientist and many others firms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_HF-24_Marut
PAF shot down 2 of those and it didn't scored any kills.


Round as per the models suggest,yes you can but you might not need to as you have awacs for that you need growler type aircraft when you are for example are from america and fighting in IRAQ where there are no awacs
new kid without knowledge , its a Ground attack plane and not a Air Defence / fighter plane.....
 
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We took years to make Dhruv, now watch at our heli collection.
We crawled in missile tech project for decades. watch at our missiles now.
Our warship building capability was a joke. Watch at our naval power now.
As we have got experience about what to do not to do from LCA, this won't delay.
We had problem in making super computer.
We had problem in making rockets for ISRO.

Keep learning and the whole world will go far ahead of you...
You are talking like you are far ahead of world.
History suggests otherwise
First plane was HF-24 made HAL with the help of German scientist and many others firms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_HF-24_Marut
PAF shot down 2 of those and it didn't scored any kills.

Round as per the models suggest,yes you can but you might not need to as you have awacs for that you need growler type aircraft when you are for example are from america and fighting in IRAQ where there are no awacs
The Marut squadrons participated in the 1971 war and none was lost in air-to-air combat, although four were lost to ground fire and two were destroyed on the ground. Three Marut pilots were awarded the Vir Chakra commendation.
One aerial kill recorded by Marut flown by Sqn Ldr KK Bakshi of 220 Squadron shot down a PAF F-86 Sabre on 7 Dec 71 (Flag Officer Hamid Khwaja of 15 Squadron PAF).
Hamid Khwaja of 15 Squadron PAF).
 
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new kid without knowledge , its a Ground attack plane and not a Air Defence / fighter plane.....
Old guy without sense, if you are talking about Marut it was a Fighter Bomber
and if you are saying F-18 Growler is Ground attack plane than please go die.
 
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