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A MiG-29KUB factory development prototype made a successful landing on the deck of the INS Vikramaditya aircraft carrier on July 28, according to Russian Aircraft (“MiG”). The Indian carrier is undergoing sea trials in the Barents Sea after modernization and refit from its previous life as a Soviet heavy cruiser. Test pilots Mikhail Belyaev and Nikolai Diorditsa were at the controls for the first landing, and a few days later they performed the first takeoff from the carrier and then made a second successful deck landing.

The successful MiG landing and other progress in the open-sea trials of the Vikramaditya have encouraged the Russians to approach the Indian MoD with a proposal to build an all-new aircraft carrier in Russia for the Indian navy. The vessel would be built at the same Sevmash shipyard at Severodvinsk that reworked the Vikramaditya. The new ship, however, would have nuclear or gas-turbine propulsion. The Vikramaditya’s water boilers run on diesel.

The Nevskoye design bureau in St. Petersburg has been working on a next-generation carrier for the Russian navy since 2005. It has already produced several design proposals and submitted them to the Russian navy for assessment. It is believed that the new carrier on offer to India will be based on one of these proposals. Construction would take between seven and 10 years, according to Andrei Diachkov, president of Russia’s United Shipbuilding (OSK). He further stated that OSK is ready to assist India in the indigenous construction of aircraft carriers, through a joint venture being established between Russian and Indian shipbuilders.

However, a high-ranking source in the Russian navy said that that service wants a ship “a lot more advanced than the one on offer” from Nevskoye. The Russian navy’s “dream” carrier would be armed with advanced self-defense systems able to intercept high-flying targets, including low-orbiting satellites. It should also have “underwater capability,” the source said, hinting at the ability of the carrier to carry advanced manned or unmanned submersible vessels. The navy expects the Nevskoye design house to complete the draft design of an advanced ship in 2014, then issue production documentation in time for Sevmash to begin construction in 2020.

In late July, newly appointed Russian navy commander Admiral Victor Chirkov confirmed that “money [to prepare] for the construction of such ships has been allocated.” However, he also said then that the current Russian Armament Program 2011-2020 does not include the construction of such ships and that a decision on the program has not been made yet. By 2020, he added, the MoD will be spending its money on construction of smaller-displacement ships and modernization of older nuclear-powered cruisers.

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this article is a bit old: Russians Discuss Future Carrier Plans, Eyeing India
 
woww...super aircraft carrier???well we have a 7500 km of coast line...i say go for it...
 
I would be happy if its based on the Stanislav-class supercarrier.

We need to procure ACs from wherever possible and make a fleet of 7 carriers by 2030.
 
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BTW India wont accept the proposal as N powered carrier doesn't fit in our doctrine.

According IN doctrine, Medium sized carriers are enough as of now

IAC 2 though will be a 60,000 tons plus ACC, wont be nuclear powered.

I would be happy if its based on the Stanislav-class supercarrier.

We need to procure ACs from wherever possible and make a fleet of 7 carriers by 2030.

At max we need 4 ACCs
 
I would be happy if its based on the Stanislav-class supercarrier.

We need to procure ACs from wherever possible and make a fleet of 7 carriers by 2030.


Mate: 7 CBG????? for what... I guess 4 should be maximum.... 1 of them may be the one which is on offer, if we can afford that...
 
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BTW India wont accept the proposal as N powered carrier doesn't fit in our doctrine.

According IN doctrine, Medium sized carriers are enough as of now

IAC 2 though will be a 60,000 tons plus ACC, wont be nuclear powered.

The IN chief said a couple of days ago, and it was posted here, that they are looking at the nuclear option as well for IAC-2. Also, 60,000 tonnes ain't medium, except for the USN.
 
i think we can go for elizabeth class carrier. It is also a conventionally powered STOBAR carrier with 60+ long tons. and also it will be cheap in all aspects with timely delivery between 2019-20. well anyhow our navy knows more than us what they want to protect us.
 
we can't afford white elephant... No more russia for AC... we can take their expertise if any case...
 
i think we can go for elizabeth class carrier. It is also a conventionally powered STOBAR carrier with 60+ long tons. and also it will be cheap in all aspects with timely delivery between 2019-20. well anyhow our navy knows more than us what they want to protect us.

It's not a STOBAR carrier, but a STOVL carrier just like INS Viraat today and IN don't want this design anymore.
 
"However, a high-ranking source in the Russian navy said that that service wants a ship “a lot more advanced than the one on offer” from Nevskoye. The Russian navy’s “dream” carrier would be armed with advanced self-defense systems able to intercept high-flying targets, including low-orbiting satellites. It should also have “underwater capability,” the source said, hinting at the ability of the carrier to carry advanced manned or unmanned submersible vessels. The navy expects the Nevskoye design house to complete the draft design of an advanced ship in 2014, then issue production documentation in time for Sevmash to begin construction in 2020."



Why would we even consider an AC that Russia is not interested in? Look at the requirements or the wishlist Russia wants and that;s what we should be aiming for. Its ridiculous to think that Russia throws their crap our way while they make sure their inventory is stocked with state of the art. That;s why I respect China......and you have to also. They make sure they get the best or the very least attempt to get parity thru any menas necessary.
 
We should go for 4 full time carriers, and 3-4 Mistral or Juan-Carlos class LHDs for future needs.
 
we need 30 to 35 subs by 2030... 24 is too low..... atleast 5 nuke sub.... one for each CBG will give lethal punch to enemies...
 
we need 30 to 35 subs by 2030... 24 is too low..... atleast 5 nuke sub.... one for each CBG will give lethal punch to enemies...

We'll have probably 4 nuclear SSBN by 2030 as the 2nd one is already nearing completion and will set out for trials by early next year, and IN is planning for a SSN variant too.
 
well they gave us the sub on lease. we can evolve the reactor for the ship.
 
We'll have probably 4 nuclear SSBN by 2030 as the 2nd one is already nearing completion and will set out for trials by early next year, and IN is planning for a SSN variant too.

still we are going to get 24 sub only, that is pretty disappointing.. MoD should give priority to NAVY too... Only IAF and IA getting major share from budget...
 
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