Gwadar development from google Map

[PakAlp]

It reminds me of Dubai and Agadir. Beautiful coastal area, airport is close by, restaurants, hotels, beach, scenery, hot weather, beautiful water, mosques, shopping place.

 

[PakAlp]

And also casinos, Brothals and latest addition of a magnificent "Mandir"

That would be very disappointing. Agadir and Dubai has big gambling problems and most Muslim youth drink. In agadir Moroccan girls prostitute openly. But yes their government is making money.

Pakistan should copy but a big NO for Clubs, Bars, prostitution, casinos.

 

[Mandalorian_CA]

That would be very disappointing. Agadir and Dubai has big gambling problems and most Muslim youth drink. In agadir Moroccan girls prostitute openly. But yes their government is making money.

Pakistan should copy but a big NO for Clubs, Bars, prostitution, casinos.

No matter how much you try to stop it will still happen. Better make it legal in that area or city only, this will stop illegal human trafficking, abuse and drugs. I know these things are against Islam but these things happened even during the Prophet's time. Its a billion dollar industry eg Netherlands

 

[Baz]

Its the promised land. Now we need to see if the promise is fulfilled

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

No matter how much you try to stop it will still happen. Better make it legal in that area or city only, this will stop illegal human trafficking, abuse and drugs. I know these things are against Islam but these things happened even during the Prophet's time. Its a billion dollar industry eg Netherlands

Then I should assume the same happens in Lahore and Karachi. Spending too much time with your white friends? Make selling ones body legal so that people aren't forced to sell their body. Your logic is disgusting and it shows your thinking. You should be the first to put in those booths if it happens.

 

[Mandalorian_CA]

Then I should assume the same happens in Lahore and Karachi. Spending too much time with your white friends? Make selling ones body legal so that people aren't forced to sell their body. Your logic is disgusting and it shows your thinking. You should be the first to put in those booths if it happens.

Yes it is happening in Karachi and Lahore , its happening everywhere. Private mujras etc you cant be turning a blind eye on it. It is not my thinking but that is just a reality. This business has been ongoing for centuries. legalizing would atleast prevent forced prostitution. It is just my opinion it is not going to happen anyways.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Yes it is happening in Karachi and Lahore , its happening everywhere. Private mujras etc you cant be turning a blind eye on it. It is not my thinking but that is just a reality. This business has been ongoing for centuries. legalizing would atleast prevent forced prostitution. It is just my opinion it is not going to happen anyways.

Did you even read what I said? Your argument is collapsing on itself.

 

[Mandalorian_CA]

Did you even read what I said? Your argument is collapsing on itself.

my logic is disgusting which shows my thinking which is more of a critcism which is okay but if you read again i said this is a huge dark industry and it exists either you legalize it either you dont. I am not arguing, i just gave my opinion.

 

[Longhorn]

That would be very disappointing. Agadir and Dubai has big gambling problems and most Muslim youth drink. In agadir Moroccan girls prostitute openly. But yes their government is making money.

Pakistan should copy but a big NO for Clubs, Bars, prostitution, casinos.

No clubs, bars, prostitution, casino = no mass tourism.

 

[PakAlp]

No clubs, bars, prostitution, casino = no mass tourism.

Yes we will loose out but dont compare it to Europe where they make profit from Clubs, casinos, Alcohol and get 50 million plus tourists. Morocco and dubai are similar to us, I know they have underground clubs etc but still if you visit you can have a nice family holiday, history holiday etc.

For Gwadar and Pakistan think of tourism based on local tourists, such as school children with families visiting a secured gwadar. Tourist who visit for beach, sight seeing, adventures, history, culture, islamic tourism. Gwadar is the base for tourism and they visit whole of Pakistan with tourist guides from here. Cheaper flights etc. I think it can work.

Comparing to other countries with similarities:
Morocco has 12 million tourist visits per year and tourism revenue is 10 Billion dollars(morocco is cheap)

Dubai has 16 Million tourist visits a year and tourism revenue is 30 Billion dollars(dubai is expensive)

I can certainly say Pakistan can achieve similar target in 10 years time.

Pakistan current yearly tourist visits are 2 million and tourism revenue is 7 Billion (not sure how accurate is that)

10 year tourist visit of 10 million is possible. We need to target overseas Pakistanis who number 10 million, arabs, persians aswell as Europeans.

Gwadar will also receive million of local tourists, Chinese business people, Chinese workers, we can provide visa to their families for short visits.

 

[Longhorn]

Yes we will loose out but dont compare it to Europe where they make profit from Clubs, casinos, Alcohol and get 50 million plus tourists. Morocco and dubai are similar to us, I know they have underground clubs etc but still if you visit you can have a nice family holiday, history holiday etc.

For Gwadar and Pakistan think of tourism based on local tourists, such as school children with families visiting a secured gwadar. Tourist who visit for beach, sight seeing, adventures, history, culture, islamic tourism. Gwadar is the base for tourism and they visit whole of Pakistan with tourist guides from here. Cheaper flights etc. I think it can work.

Comparing to other countries with similarities:
Morocco has 12 million tourist visits per year and tourism revenue is 10 Billion dollars(morocco is cheap)

Dubai has 16 Million tourist visits a year and tourism revenue is 30 Billion dollars(dubai is expensive)

I can certainly say Pakistan can achieve similar target in 10 years time.

Pakistan current yearly tourist visits are 2 million and tourism revenue is 7 Billion (not sure how accurate is that)

10 year tourist visit of 10 million is possible. We need to target overseas Pakistanis who number 10 million, arabs, persians aswell as Europeans.

Gwadar will also receive million of local tourists, Chinese business people, Chinese workers, we can provide visa to their families for short visits.

Local tourism, while good, isn't where the big bucks are. You need foreign tourism to bring in foreign exchange. Most of the foreign tourism to Pakistan at this time is ex pat Pakistanis who visit their relatives. This will dwindle as the ex pat communities in the West mature.
We need to shed our inhibition of things we consider haram and do what needs to be done.
Every activity that we would recoil from on the basis that it is haram goes on in every city in Pakistan as we speak. The only difference is that it is underground with everybody from mafias to corrupt politicians, police, local officials and bureaucrats involved. We need to bring it out into the open where it can be regulated, controlled and taken out of the hands of criminals. Far from corrupting society, it will have the added benefit of cleaning up society. Those that want to indulge in vices will indulge in them anyway whereas those who wish to avoid them will always avoid them. Older Pakistanis will remember that Pakistan was a much more open and pleasant country when these things were openly available although they were frowned on by most people.
These things are tolerated in both the examples you have given, precisely because they have realised that it is the only way to open up to the world.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

my logic is disgusting which shows my thinking which is more of a critcism which is okay but if you read again i said this is a huge dark industry and it exists either you legalize it either you dont. I am not arguing, i just gave my opinion.

Should not be legal and there should be a special task force part of the FC/Rangers and ISI that deals with it

 

[Mandalorian_CA]

Should not be legal and there should be a special task force part of the FC/Rangers and ISI that deals with it

That is not Rangers or ISI work to deal with it, they have much more tasks to deal with.